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Piaggio p 108 3d

PIAGGIO P 108 ITALIAN HEAVY BOMBERS 3D reconstruction.

http://gunpoint-3d.com/images/view/p108.f.jpg
http://gunpoint-3d.com/images/view/p108.l.jpg
http://gunpoint-3d.com/images/view/p108.r.jpg

The P.108 was delivered to a single unit, the 274a Squadriglia (274th Squadron) in 1941.[2] But there were several accidents, one of them involving the son of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. On 7 August 1941, Bruno Mussolini, commander of the 274a Squadriglia, was piloting one of the prototypes of the "secret" bomber. He flew too low and crashed into a house.[5] The cockpit section separated from the rest of the aircraft and although the aircraft did not catch fire, it was nevertheless totally destroyed in the impact. Mussolini died of his injuries.
The incident Bruno Mussolini in my strange thoughts, you suddenly 'sabotage and not a mere accident. However, this and another story to investigate and search.

One of the most interesting features of this aircraft in my humble opinion was its defensive weaponry. Among ordinary fuselage gun turrets it also sported two wing mounted (atop outer engine nacelles), remotely controlled turrets, each equipped with two heavy machineguns. Such a setup provided an aircraft with formidable backward directed firepower and a large, unobstructed field of fire. Biggest drawback was unability of the crew to un-jam guns.

yes gun turret is distance control.
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Gun turret Breda Safat 12,7mm.

Great model!Hope that someday this beauty will be available at SoW or IL2.

Also,was this the first plane to have a remote turret?

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Originally Posted by bf-110 (Post 317218)

Also,was this the first plane to have a remote turret?

Not sure, but might very well be.

Anyway, the 102mm cannon was the largest calibre gun actually fired from a flying aircraft in WW2.

I absolutely adore the P.180 Avanti. I've flown for weeks with that bird in FSX.

http://combat-asylum.com/uploads/dow...%20p%20108.jpg
SKIN of italian piaggio p108 adapted to russian pe8:
i think the skin is good but the model is different.

Nice model. Probably the best I've ever seen.
My father was part of the 274^ squadriglia and flew the p108 (gunner) during WWII. The aircraft is known most for the death of Mussolini's son, but partecipated to some actions against allies (unfortunately in desperate conditions...my father told me that usually they fought in groups of no more than 6 planes, without escort..).
I cannot hide my emotions... It could be fantastic to have it on IL2.
S

I have read that one fault of the German campaign against Russia was lack of long range bombers to hit the relocated factories. Could this one have done that?

BTW, look at the shadow in that FSX screen shot. The cockpit roof windows let light in, right through the cockpit floor!

this rare photo of Benito Mussolini and back P108.
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general view and turrers and cokpit view:
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cockpit PIAGGIO P108
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right
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General view of p108

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front gun
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back
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remote controll turrets
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ALL TURRETS p108
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BRUNO MUSSOLINI BOMBER
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ALLIED BOMBER
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PERFORMANCE
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Wow, very nice bomber. Thanks.

PIAGGIO P.108B II "Italian Heavy Bomber"

The Piaggio P.108 B was the only heavy four-engine bomber to see service with the Italian air force (Regia Aeronautica) during World War Two. Due to the lack of production capacity of the Italian aviation industry, too few were built to play a significant role in this conflict. In total Piaggio built only 163 P.108 Bs, but this fact does not make the design less remarkable.

The Piaggio P.108 B (Bombardiere) was an all metal cantilever low-wing monoplane with an retractable undercarriage, driven by four Piaggio P.XII RC 35 18 cylinder radial engines, each producing 1350 hp. The first prototype was finished in October 1939 and had a very advanced defensive armament for its day. Not only had the Piaggio two 7,7 mm machine waist guns, a 12,7 mm machine gun in the lower turret and a similar weapon in the nose turret, but also two remotely-controlled twin gun turrets in outer engine nacelles. The first Allied bomber with a similar armament was the Boeing B 29, which was developed four years later.

The bomb load of the Piaggio comprised of 3.500 kg, all carried internally in the bomb bay. In comparison, the Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress had a maximum internal bomb load of only 2.200-kg.

The only unit of the Regia Aeronautica ever to fly the Piaggio P.108 B was the 274a Squadrilia Bombardamento a Grande Raggio (B.G.R.), the 274th Long-Range Bombardment Group. This unit was formed in May 1941, around the first machines that came off the assembly lines.

The training of the crews lasted far longer than anticipated. It there took until June 1942 before the 274a B.G.R. became operational. The most spectacular raids with the Piaggio P. 108 B were flown in October 1942, when the Regia Aeronautica launched several night attacks on Gibraltar, from the airfield of Decimomannu on Sardinia.

Several versions were derived from the Piaggio P. 108 B, such as the P.108 A (Artigliere), which had a 102 mm anti-shipping gun in it’s nose, the P.108 C (Civile) airliner and the P.108 T (Trasporto). The latter two versions had a newly designed fuselage of larger diameter, for the transportation of passengers or freight. They were hardly used by the Regia Aeronautica, the main user being the German Luftwaffe. In September 1943, after the Italian armistice, the Luftwaffe had captured all fifteen built P.108 Cs and P.108 Ts. They were used at the Russian front, as part of Luftflotte 2, where they performed sterling duties, among others during the evacuation of the Crimea in 1944.

Twee uitvoeringen mogelijk;

Piaggio P.108B (MM 22004) manufactured as series I, reconstructed to standard of II. series. On january 13, 1943 the aircraft commanded by Cap.Semprini and Ten. Cervi did not return from a raid against the port of Algiers.
Piaggio P.108B (MM 24325) the last machine taken out over by Regia Aeronautica, pilot Ten.Gmeiner. After september 8, 1943 it was taken over on the airfield Grottaglie in Puglia by the US Army Air Force.

http://www.modelwereld.eu/catalog/im...08%20USAAF.jpg
http://www.modelwereld.eu/catalog/im...edium/P108.jpg

this is american jeep this photo edit in Grottaglie south italy puglia and this is p108 captured from allied.
http://www.finn.it/regia/immagini/pi...grottaglie.jpg

http://www.finn.it/regia/immagini/pi..._mussolini.jpg
The crash of the Piaggio P.108B SN. 22003 (Pisa, 1 August 1941) caused the death of Capt. Bruno Mussolini, Commander of the 274th Squadron and son of the "Duce" Benito Mussolini and Rachele Guidi

Capt.BRUNO MUSSOLINI AND YOUR TEAM ARE DEAD.

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Originally Posted by Fenice_1965 (Post 326548)

Man,that must be awesome!

And fantastico,Xilon X.

Xilon, you have a lot of matherial I've never seen, is there a book where you founf al of it ?.
It could be interesting to know Daidalos opinion about the possibility to build a plane for IL2 from that matherial.

Fenice_1965 i find for you this book i post in past time in this forum.
http://www.ebook3000.com/upimg/20100...173610407.jpeg
DOWNLOAD here:
http://www.ebook3000.com/Ali-d-Itali...108_70707.html
this book in english and italian lenguagge.
http://my.opera.com/Grifo/homes/albums/132520/P108C.jpg

Ty very much Xilon.
~S~

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Originally Posted by Xilon_x (Post 317376)

THIS IS PIAGGIO TODAY
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/...055b6ebb3b.jpg

One of these occasionally flies over my house on it's base leg into San Francisco Airport. They're screamers!
Note the Ferrari emblem on the nose.