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ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 05:29 PM

Dogs of Dover -- the movie
 
Long awaited and finally released!!!! Spits vs 109's, Ju88's, He111's in the defense of Dover. See if you can spot the never-before-heard dogfighting tip tucked inside this action-packed aerial combat Battle of Britain epic!



http://vimeo.com/26436708

LoBiSoMeM 07-23-2011 05:48 PM

:)

JOM 07-23-2011 06:05 PM

Hi,

Really fun. Good job. :-D

S!

Doo 07-23-2011 06:08 PM

it was an acquired taste, but I got into it and enjoyed it very much.
good job!

furbs 07-23-2011 06:10 PM

Nice one snapper!

jayrc 07-23-2011 06:13 PM

:grin:

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Doo (Post 313787)
it was an acquired taste, but I got into it and enjoyed it very much.
good job!

That's putting it mildly! LOL

It was put together with a wide variety of audiences in mind, as you probably gathered - but it was fun making it. Thanks for the comments!

Vengeanze 07-23-2011 06:14 PM

Loved the intro with the modelplane. Very nice.

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by furbs (Post 313789)
Nice one snapper!

Thanks, Furbs! :-P

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vengeanze (Post 313795)
Loved the intro with the modelplane. Very nice.

Thanks, Vengeance. I waited until everyone had gone to bed (Riley would've wiped out that low table AND the camera gear LOL) to film the intro, then actually dozed off on that very couch after putting stuff away after..... :rolleyes:

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JOM (Post 313785)
Hi,

Really fun. Good job. :-D

S!

That was the idea, exactly. I'm now waiting by the phone for Spielberg or George Lucas to call...... LOL

White Owl 07-23-2011 06:35 PM

Shelties are the best dogs in the world.

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by White Owl (Post 313808)
Shelties are the best dogs in the world.

Can't argue there, W.O.! Riley and Nikki (seen in the out takes) are really good dogs. :)

Blackdog_kt 07-23-2011 07:24 PM

At a couple of instances the transitions and montage were a bit rough, but the whole concept of it was brilliant ( i always like to start the critique with the cons and finish up on a high note with the good points :grin: )

Guy effectively going back to childhood while painting model airplanes, dreaming up of the encounter and coming back to reality, anyone of us can identify with that at some point in his life.

The fact that you also crammed three of your pass-times into it (model aircraft, dogs and flight sims) makes the main character easier to identify with as a real person, so it draws the viewer in. Being fond of dogs myself doesn't hurt either i guess :-P

Overall, i'd say that apart from a couple of minor editing issues, it's a top notch idea with a solid execution and it's clear you spend quite some time on it, you get a big thumbs up for the idea and effort alone as far as i'm concerned.

louisv 07-23-2011 07:51 PM

So cute...Thanks

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 09:04 PM

Thanks for the feedback, BD - much appreciated. I still have lots to learn re technicals, but I really enjoy the challenge. Green screen is an exciting concept -- but I've found it's not so easy getting it to look good! Can't blame the tools - Adobe's Production Premium CS5.5 Suite is superb. Will keep at it, thanks again for your comments.

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 09:05 PM

Thanks, LouisV. My wife loved when the two dogs switched unknown to me until I looked down! LOL

JG5_emil 07-23-2011 09:16 PM

My Labrador would approve! Except for the licking part :-P

Pitti 07-23-2011 09:24 PM

There's no licking in a dogfight!

Great! :)

Tree_UK 07-23-2011 09:43 PM

Loved it snapper and Riley is a star!! :grin:

ATAG_Bliss 07-23-2011 09:58 PM

Very nicely done Snapper.

I think it showcases many people's childhood dreams. Definitely very uplifting and fun to watch.

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JG5_emil (Post 313854)
My Labrador would approve! Except for the licking part :-P

I wanted a Lab -- or at least any dog that can see over the dash! I got out-voted by wife and daughter. It worked out fine, and we'll be in great shape if there's any unherded (is that a word?) sheep around. :)

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitti (Post 313857)
There's no licking in a dogfight!

Great! :)

One of my favourite Tom Hanks lines came from "A League of Their Own" - "Are you crying? ARE YOU CRYING??!?? There's no crying in baseball!". :-P

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 313860)
Loved it snapper and Riley is a star!! :grin:

Thanks Tree! Already I'm getting stopped in the street by people asking, "Hey, aren't you that fat guy with Riley in that airplane video?". By Gawd, my dog's made me famous! LOL

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SYN_Bliss (Post 313864)
Very nicely done Snapper.

I think it showcases many people's childhood dreams. Definitely very uplifting and fun to watch.

Thanks for the kind comment, Bliss. I'm just hoping I'm not doomed for Cornball Purgatory when my time is up! LOL

Das Attorney 07-23-2011 10:55 PM

That was the most surreal video I've ever watched - and very cool :)

Would like to see this in your next video:

- You could have a scene where you flat spin and Riley barks out some recovery instructions to you. Suitably subtitled of course :) (Like Mr Baxter in Anchorman)

- There's a German Shepherd or Rottweiler on the lap of a German pilot doing similar things!

:)

JimmyBlonde 07-23-2011 10:56 PM

Haha, your dog Riley is under suspicion as being a Fifth Columnist for constant wriggling and licking in the face of the enemy. (And in the face of the pilot)

Well made, very amusing.

Zappatime 07-23-2011 11:07 PM

What a lovely little vid, and nice to see who put the 'dog' in dogfight :):)

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Das Attorney (Post 313879)
That was the most surreal video I've ever watched - and very cool :)

Would like to see this in your next video:

- You could have a scene where you flat spin and Riley barks out some recovery instructions to you. Suitably subtitled of course :) (Like Mr Baxter in Anchorman)

- There's a German Shepherd or Rottweiler on the lap of a German pilot doing similar things!

:)

Ha! Thanks, D.A.!

I read this to my wife saying, "See? Now we HAVE to get a German Shepard!" She didn't buy it, but it was a good try. LOL

I'm a big Ron Burgundy fan, but I don't think the world is ready for my impersonation of him in Cliffsof Dover. At least, not until the next patch! :grin:

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyBlonde (Post 313880)
Haha, your dog Riley is under suspicion as being a Fifth Columnist for constant wriggling and licking in the face of the enemy. (And in the face of the pilot)

Well made, very amusing.

No kidding, J.B.! He's a worse influence on my aim than Force Feedback! LOL

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Zappatime (Post 313882)
What a lovely little vid, and nice to see who put the 'dog' in dogfight :):)

So, that's not saying my video was "a dog", right? ;) j/k!

Houndstone Hawk 07-23-2011 11:40 PM

Excellent Video. Very different, beautifully humourous, extremely ambitious & it all paid off.
Bravo Sir. :-D

HH

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 11:50 PM

Hey everyone - just a sincere thanks for all your comments, jokes, etc. Obviously I'm not going to give up my day job any time soon (unless Spielberg actually DOES call - then I'm outta here!) but it's just a little hobby of mine that I was very glad to share. Actually I posted the movie this morning over in another flight sim forum which I habituate more often. After a couple of hours, 28 views, and nary a happy face icon I took it down. Can't be a winner all the time....... ;)

I got just as much pleasure reading your responses out to my wife - and giving smart-a$$ replies - as I did making this silly little epic. Have a great weekend, everyone! :)

sfmadmax 07-23-2011 11:54 PM

Great work Snapper! I really enjoyed that!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapper (Post 313769)
Long awaited and finally released!!!! Spits vs 109's, Ju88's, He111's in the defense of Dover. See if you can spot the never-before-heard dogfighting tip tucked inside this action-packed aerial combat Battle of Britain epic!



http://vimeo.com/26436708


ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk (Post 313891)
Excellent Video. Very different, beautifully humourous, extremely ambitious & it all paid off.
Bravo Sir. :-D

HH

Thanks, H.H.! Can't tell you how often during production I asked myself "Where am I going with this?". My wife nixed the idea of having a Spitfire Girl on my lap, so Riley had to do. LOL

ATAG_Snapper 07-23-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sfmadmax (Post 313895)
Great work Snapper! I really enjoyed that!!!

Then it's "mission accomplished". Thanks for stopping by to let me know, sfmadmax! :)

SG1_Lud 07-24-2011 12:07 AM

I enjoyed the video very much Snapper. Congratulations!

You can tell us the truth... It was Riley who shot down the 109, hmm?

Toasted_Toad 07-24-2011 12:58 AM

G'day Snapper,

Very original and clever work, got a good chuckle, however, our Dachshunds (Missy & Woof) were not happy about u flaming the '88.
When u got the 109 there were mumblings of " Gersplashen der 109 ist Verboten!!!" they then left the room.

Cheers Mate,
T_T.

Skoshi Tiger 07-24-2011 01:23 AM

That put a smile on my dial! ;) Thanks!

airmalik 07-24-2011 10:40 AM

fun video Snapper! But someone has to say it - the head's too small :)

Feathered_IV 07-24-2011 11:40 AM

Great! Well done snapper. It's like the dog fanciers version of Spitgirl!

ATAG_Snapper 07-24-2011 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Toasted_Toad (Post 313919)
G'day Snapper,

Very original and clever work, got a good chuckle, however, our Dachshunds (Missy & Woof) were not happy about u flaming the '88.
When u got the 109 there were mumblings of " Gersplashen der 109 ist Verboten!!!" they then left the room.

Cheers Mate,
T_T.

Yikes! You never want to pi$$ off a wiener-dog, much less TWO of em!!!! ;). Hey, I thought all you diggers had were Aussie cattle dogs out there!!!!! LOL

ATAG_Snapper 07-24-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LUD (Post 313900)
I enjoyed the video very much Snapper. Congratulations!

You can tell us the truth... It was Riley who shot down the 109, hmm?

BUSTED!!! You must've noticed I kept the camera well off the gun button during the shooting sequences! LOL

ATAG_Snapper 07-24-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 314021)
Great! Well done snapper. It's like the dog fanciers version of Spitgirl!

The Spitgirl reminds me of the gal we all wanted to date back in high school, then at the first reunion turns out she's a real dog....... (ouch! Can't believe I typed that!!!! LOL)

ATAG_Snapper 07-24-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 313923)
That put a smile on my dial! ;) Thanks!

Thanks, S.T. I should've included the out take of the green screen blowing over with me trying to hold it up -- THAT would crack everyone up! :)

ATAG_Snapper 07-24-2011 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by airmalik (Post 314007)
fun video Snapper! But someone has to say it - the head's too small :)


Hahaha! You just HAD to say it, right? ;)

I wrestled with that very thing for some of the side shots. It's really easy to scale the size up or down; it's a little more difficult to keep it in one place as the Spit cockpit is jostling around. Finally, I just said "To he|| with it, I've always wanted a little hea.........(oops, might be kids reading this!). LOL

biltongbru 07-24-2011 02:57 PM

Love the intro; artistic filming; great job man!:)

Corto 07-24-2011 03:01 PM

Well done snapper. Great job!!! Great Crew!!!

SG1_Lud 07-24-2011 03:34 PM

haha, ok Snapper, btw, I hope you are already working in the second part? :)

Les 07-24-2011 06:11 PM

Good, fun video. Managed to hold my attention and keep me smiling throughout. I liked the use of humour and the way you kept the story moving forward. Some of the technical aspects were a bit clunky, though it could be argued that just added to the charm of the piece. There were a lot of one-off elements in there too, which could make following up with a sequel difficult, so don't be concerned if you find you have to do something completely different next time just to keep moving forward. Keep doing what's fun for you, not just what you think you 'should' do based on the perceived expectations of your 'audience'. Wouldn't mind seeing how far you can take the dogs-as-actors angle though.:grin: Thanks for sharing.

ATAG_Snapper 07-24-2011 09:49 PM

Thanks again for the feedback. I had several video and audio tracks going to handle the green screen elements, music, CoD noises, and verbal dubbings. It was a bear to edit on many fronts -especially the scene-to-scene transitions- but a fantastic learning exercise both in filming and in the post processing. There are a lot of things I'd do differently knowing what I do now, but a reshoot was not in the cards. But it was a ton of fun all through! :)

I won't do a sequel, but will be making more CoD videos down the line. There are so many good CoD vids out there now that I have to think of ways to make things a little different perspective-wise. But this is definitely the place to premiere 'em! :-D

Insuber 07-24-2011 11:01 PM

You're a genius! Jolly good job Snapper!

ATAG_Doc 07-24-2011 11:04 PM

Very good job! Thanks for sharing.

Seeker 07-25-2011 09:14 AM

Nice work :)

katdogfizzow 09-16-2011 11:24 PM

cool dog....loved the dialougue!

Zappatime 09-17-2011 12:04 AM

love it!:grin:

41Sqn_Stormcrow 09-17-2011 12:08 AM

Holy snappers!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QTAJkFa8-g

diveplane 09-17-2011 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapper (Post 313769)
Long awaited and finally released!!!! Spits vs 109's, Ju88's, He111's in the defense of Dover. See if you can spot the never-before-heard dogfighting tip tucked inside this action-packed aerial combat Battle of Britain epic!



http://vimeo.com/26436708

vid was fun well done..:grin:

nearmiss 09-17-2011 02:46 AM

Some people go all out for their dogs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZmCEWK1ffI

BadAim 09-17-2011 02:47 AM

Fan-freaking-tastic! Loads of fun.....I'm sending it to everyone I know. (most of them already know I'm crazy, so I'm OK on that front)

bw_wolverine 09-17-2011 03:46 AM

Good fun! I particularly liked the over the shoulder shot after shooting down the 109. Integrated the green screen live action into the scene very nicely without too much jarring.

You've also given me some more ideas for my own stuff. Thanks!

One thing, ya kinda missed a thank you/credit. 1C Maddox Games! :P You have it mentioned on the vimeo page, but I suspect people will be grabbing captures of this. Might be nice to have a recognition within the film itself.

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bw_wolverine (Post 337140)
Good fun! I particularly liked the over the shoulder shot after shooting down the 109. Integrated the green screen live action into the scene very nicely without too much jarring.

You've also given me some more ideas for my own stuff. Thanks!

One thing, ya kinda missed a thank you/credit. 1C Maddox Games! :P You have it mentioned on the vimeo page, but I suspect people will be grabbing captures of this. Might be nice to have a recognition within the film itself.

Wolverine, thanks for the kind comments. If this has inspired you to make a video.....post it here! I want to see it! :)

Actually, I gave the boys at 1C special mention in the opening credits. Stutter-free, even! LOL

Thanks again for your input!

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by katdogfizzow (Post 337101)
cool dog....loved the dialougue!

Thanks, KDF! :D

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Zappatime (Post 337108)
love it!:grin:

Thanks very much, Z!

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Stormcrow (Post 337109)

Crikey, Stormcrow -- that was one wild ride!!!!! LOL

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by diveplane (Post 337129)
vid was fun well done..:grin:

Glad you enjoyed it -- mission accomplished. :)

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nearmiss (Post 337135)
Some people go all out for their dogs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZmCEWK1ffI

Ha! That video was brutal!!!!

One thing I like about MY dog.....if I talked that kind of shyte to him, he'd bite my kneecap! LOL

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by biltongbru (Post 314063)
Love the intro; artistic filming; great job man!:)

Two months late on the reply.....and I don't even work for Canada Post!!!

That intro was the hardest to do. It was shot with a Canon 5D Mark 2 and a Canon 180mm macro lens. Depth of field was only a few millimeters. I used a whip attachment to the follow focus to move the point of focus while shooting from the Spit's prop to my eyeball, but had to hold my head perfectly still to do this while blowing on the spinning prop. I used one of the paintbrushes that was in the coffee mug to hold my head in place by jabbing it into my chin while I was shooting. Needless to say, it took a LOT of retakes until I got it right. The model airplanes were Corgi cast metal which, of course, were already painted. I had bought the little paint jars and paintbrushes earlier in the day as props -- the paint jars were never even opened.

And Riley was actually a few feet away sprawled on the floor as I was shooting this -- sound asleep. I didn't want to risk waking him so I used my iPhone4 to shoot him lying there. Red Giant's Magic Bullet Quick Looks helped mesh the low-res Riley-sleeping clip into the the 1080p high-res dslr footage later.

Sorry for the delayed response - much appreciate your comment.

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 314190)
You're a genius! Jolly good job Snapper!

I've been called a lot of things, but genius doesn't immediately come to mind! LOL Thanks!

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 04:54 AM

Thanks for the good word. :)

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Seeker (Post 314311)
Nice work :)

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it! :)

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by diveplane (Post 337129)
vid was fun well done..:grin:

Thanks, diveplane. Fun was what it was all about -- glad you enjoyed it! :)

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Corto (Post 314065)
Well done snapper. Great job!!! Great Crew!!!

Thanks, Corto. I couldn't have done it without my highly-trained, low-paid crew! LOL

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BadAim (Post 337136)
Fan-freaking-tastic! Loads of fun.....I'm sending it to everyone I know. (most of them already know I'm crazy, so I'm OK on that front)

Thanks, BadAim. As you can probably tell from the out takes, we were laughing throughout the production. I wasn't even sure what the story was going to be when we were doing the shooting -- just a few ideas in my head. We just did a bunch of takes and later I incorporated them into the CoD footage and built a storyline around it....of sorts. LOL

He111 09-17-2011 03:33 PM

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hmmmm ... thinks, we could reproduce the classic Commando comic stories in video similar to your production.

Classics like "Clash of Aces" and "Aces Wild" ...

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major_setback 09-17-2011 11:02 PM

Nice video!

bw_wolverine 09-17-2011 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapper (Post 337142)
Wolverine, thanks for the kind comments. If this has inspired you to make a video.....post it here! I want to see it! :)

Actually, I gave the boys at 1C special mention in the opening credits. Stutter-free, even! LOL

Thanks again for your input!

Ah, didn't see it for some reason (and I watched it twice!). Good stuff.

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bw_wolverine (Post 337536)
Ah, didn't see it for some reason (and I watched it twice!). Good stuff.

No worries, mate. I appreciate the feedback. Cheers!

ATAG_Snapper 09-17-2011 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by He111 (Post 337355)
hmmmm ... thinks, we could reproduce the classic Commando comic stories in video similar to your production.

Classics like "Clash of Aces" and "Aces Wild" ...

.

You're right. There are already some masterful videos on YouTube (including a father-son duel in a Spit & 109 - can't find the link :( ) that approach your idea.

Ironically, a number of members have asked for a pilot figure in the aircraft for the in-cockpit view which would make it difficult for green screen video-making. However, this is a sim for everyone, not just wannabe moviemakers, so I've kept silent. If they do implement an in-cockpit pilot figure, I'm hoping they make it a selectable option in either the GUI menu or in the config.ini file. In an effort to preserve frame rates, of course! ;)


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