July 19th release... I hope?
 

If this has already been said, forgive me...
Whoever this concerns...Please do not delay the US release:!:
I don't care how 'imperfect' it may seem to those who own it... Let me be the judge.
I have already made the mistake of ordering the 'electronic download' version through Ubisoft, which does not allow cancellation (always read the small-print... Sigh)
I paid me money and want me goods, whatever that entails:!:

OK... I also promise to not gripe, moan, whinge, whine, scream, beat my fists, slag anyone off, put anyone down, blame everybody under the sun, etc. etc.

I would GREATLY welcome the opportunity to see for myself:!:

Is that such a crime?

I have watched enough cool vids to know I want it... 'issues' and all:!::grin:

It's up to Ubisoft, not 1C, whether or not to release it in its current state. If Ubi doesn't mind the bad PR in the US, they'll stick to the 7/19 release.

I am not sure how but a few people over at the Ubi forum have managed to get their money back from the preorder of the digital download.You might check out their posts.

It has something to do with Digital River.They are the ones actually responsible for the digital d/l.

I am only guessing here but if they are to have the DVD boxes on the shelves by July 19th then the game has to go gold in the next week.Of course there is no going gold for the digital download.

UBI has been as responsible about the release of CoD as a three year old with a china vase. Their forums still say MAY. I wouldn't hold my breath getting any kind of real answer from them.

Sadly, that leaves only place to ask - here, and Luthier and crew have nothing to do with the Western release of CoD.

Hello Rock. Meet Hard place.

I myself bought GoGamers release a few months ago - before the postponement of the U.S. release. I didn't go through the hoops some went through to activate it, figuring I can wait till the official release. Hopefully I can activate it on the 19th. As of yet I have no clue. We'll see.

I just want to see for myself...
 

Warts and all!
I understand the frustrations that some are experiencing...
But if my system shows itself to be a dog, it will mean groveling to the missus about needing to upgrade... AGAIN!;)
And life is too short as it is!

The small print about returns and order cancellations is lame, but the money is in their mitts, and I can't be bothered playing tag with customer service :rolleyes:

...anyway, I want to believe it will contribute to it's continuing evolution, however small...

And thanks for not ripping me a new one guys... I just needed to vent...
:grin:

I'm waiting ... but I have lost my enthusiasm ... I will wait to hear from everyone here at the "official forum" before I buy ... waiting ... waiting ... hoping ... I can't wait any longer ... now I'm worried ... still waiting ..........

ah I won't have a new system, maybe later this year but not now . . .

Besides I'll get the collectors edition for the goodies . . .and when the game is patched and they release

IL-2 Москва (which means a solid BOB)

I'll have a system to run it :)


I wouldn't be upset if they delayed US release to make it better.

Surely if Luthier and crew have nothing to do with the Western release then that can only be a good thing, because the Russian and Europe release was a disaster!!

Ubi handled the European release.

But hey everyone lets give Tree a clap for once again purposely ignoring facts to post an insulting message, i take back my apology with post like these you once again prove that your nothing more than the usual forum troll.

IMHO anyone can get his money back because UBI missed the delivery date several times. There are laws protecting consumers in most of developed countries and the law has more power than fineprint in many developed countries. If the fineprint contradicts the law the company can be held responsible for cheating / committing fraud on consumers.

I do not think US release happens before MP sound is fixed, i.e. September or even Christmas-time according to my personal guestimate.

It is always possible to purchase a 2nd copy to play now and then give the UBI copy as a Christmas present to a friend/nephew when it is available.

I think you`re overestimating him. He`s just stupid. Really helps refraining from answering him.

Optimism is always welcome. Although I`m afraid that if 1C didn`t make a huge leap forward, the 19th release would cause even more people to flame on here forum. It`s not the satisfied/optimistic crowd who is the vocal one, it`s the whining crowd. If 1C doesn`t get desperate with the funds, I`d say they will postpone the US release until the game is ready. Because currently CloD is not ready.
Anyways, you can get it from Steam, you can get it from English stores online. At the same time, the folks who are not so enthusiastic about the sim to order it from overseas or too lazy or too stupid - from them we will get a hell of a mindless moaning if CloD gets to US in current state.

ooooh, you bitch!! :grin:

Out of 200 guess and assumptions he gets two right and automatically a lot of ppl hear and a frankly depressing number over at simhq now think the sun shines from his rear end...

What gets my goat is that there are quite a few ppl posting here seemingly oblivious to the obvious fact that there is only one or two companies (MG and 777) on this planet willing to put the time and dedication into a highly detailed warbirds sim, a genre known to bring minimal returns due to the dwindling ww2 era and simulator fan base. MG are the only one bothering to invest on a decent ww2 flight sim surely we should be patient as this is all we have...

People have every right to moan, they have been sold a very faulty product, mislead during the development and have no chance of a refund (if purchased through steam). That is not acceptable, its the do gooders/fanboys/non complainers call em what you like catorgary that you slide into perfectly that over the years as allowed companys to get away with this sort of shoddy treatment. You must be so proud.

I think you will find it was far more than that my dear friend. :grin:

You may want edit your post before alpha swings his ban hammer...

Ive not called anyone stupid or a troll, why would i be banned??

Lol fair enough but you have to admit I have a point, unless you know of another company that aims to release a detailed ww2 sim?

Well "oh you b@£&@" might be enough :D

Of course you have a point Krupi, as most people who post do, I dont want to see the end of CLOD, but I would certainly like to see some more action/communication from the Dev's a few pics taken in the office doesn't do it for me after being sold a 'pup'. 4 months after release and still no MP sound fix is far from pleasing, and the office pics with everyone smiling isn't really what I wanted to see, however a picture of all the team stood behind a banner with the words 'WE ARE SORRY GUYS' on it would of been better recieved.

Nooooo dont quote me you know what happens!!:grin::grin:

I can understand the enthusiasm a person may have to get access to a game that others are playing, even when they are aware that some people endlessly complain that it's not perfect.
I can also understand the reticence of ubi to release the game to an easily disappointed audience of casual gamers who will be unlikely to have the patience or aptitude to manage their systems or accept CoD's current shortcomings.
I'm enjoying this diamond in the rough, but it definitely needs more polishing.

If you really want the game it can be obtained and activated in North America- many other threads have described in detail how it can be done. In a perverse way that is protecting the brand- only those willing to navigate the tortuous trail are getting it, and they are more likely to persevere with it.

+1

@Tree these guys are Russian the office could be burning down around them and they wouldn't mention it ;)

Ubi have my money... Order cancellation would take an act of God... Allah... Whoever...
Activation through any US site is blocked... Believe me I've tried... I am quite prepared to accept it in it's present form...
I have spent the last 25+ years tweaking many... MANY... system configurations in an effort to beat down every flight sim that has sucked me in... as in, I have spent more hours getting them to even load, never mind run like stink!
Call me stupid, but those are the facts...
If anyone has a problem with COD, ask for your money back... And move on...
If that is not an option... Go code your own game...
If that is not an option... Try to be patient...
The chance of any game being released in a perfect state is extremely rare, and I for one never expect it.

I regard them all as a tribute to the memory of the men who lived and DIED during an incredible period in history

If this sounds crass to anyone, tough... I appreciate the effort involved in recreating those times...
In the end it's a $50 game... I can drink that in a weekend when the wife's not looking...;)

But my world does not revolve around my computer... It's just a nice break from reality...
Oh, to have been born around 1920 or so... :)

With the greatest respect retrojet, you may want it released as it is in the USA (and I can say that it's worth having even with all its current faults) but I do have it and I don't want it released yet as I am afraid the extremely important US market will bury it alive due to the bugs and MG may fall off the cliff as a result. Then it may never be fixed.

I'm really sorry you can't get to it yet as you're obviously one of the people willing to live with the bugs for a while. I think the MP sound bug may be the key, they may release it over there once its fixed. Luthier said at the last patch it would take 'several months' but then last week when he released the 'mugs gallery' he said it was going better than expected.

We're all hanging on his every (occasional) word and my gut feeling is September for the sound bug fix, but then I'm an optimist.

I used to be a pessimist but I was depressingly wrong about everything :|

And in that vein, I think if I had been born in 1920 and had actually mnade it as a fighter pilot I would probably have lasted about..ummm.. 5 minutes :)

I think that if Ubi is expecting big North American sales they are going to be disappointed.

I think that most everybody in North America that wants/wanted the game already has it.Sure there are a few left that are waiting on the DVD or the digital download to be activate but I do not think there are a lot.

WWII is a niche market and most of the PR is word of mouth(or forums).It is hard for anyone outside to stumble across these sims.

DVDs on the shelf might pull in some sales from the casual gamer.But Ubi has done a horrendous job at advertising.In this respect I think bloated Steam might help.Those with no knowledge of the game will see it plastered on the screen when Steam starts up and might give it a try.

So in conclusion I think most of the North American sales are already done.

Notam:I have no figures to back any of this up.It is just a feeling.

So you are what? Related to marketing in any way or just wildly guessing and blowing into the open? I think more the later. No offense but i dont get why so many people (that obviously care about this game - if not they wouldnt roam this forum all the time) have nothing better to do but to try and talk the game dead.
I for my part am pissed from the bugs too. But i still love the game and like to play it even with those bugs. Some of you should engange in serious soul-searching and see if its not in reality the same to them and then think twice before posting.

Winger


Winger

you can get your money back

I was able too
use phone

Klem: I was thinking more along the lines of the 'twenty minuters' as in FlashHeart?:)
Anyway, I've always considered our community totally hardcore in defense of the flight sim genre, hence the high emotional discussions ;)

Icewolf: I want the sim more, but thanks :)

Winger and Troll2K: Honestly... I hate to think my post would end up causing others to fall out...

I like to think we're all on the same side, whether we prefer axis over allies or not.

They're all just 'games' in the end... But expensive hobbies when you add up all the years of upgrades, (software and hardware)


So our commitment is strong, and when it all comes together, so worth it

Let's hope for a happy ending... What say you, mateys!? Are ye with me!?

Ok, now I'm getting carried away.... By the guys in white coats... Hehe!

All the best!

See you up there! :)



:)

I think that there haven`t been any means to think that sales are going to be any bigger than in 2002. We are all still playing a niche game. The promoting campaign of CloD is roughly the same as with IL2. I`d say they`re not expecting much.

Don`t be so sure. If your world doesn`t evolve around pc flight sims, the chances are that you`re going to wait for it to hit the retail stores near you rather that facing the hassle of ordering it overseas or bypassing it allthoghether through Russian version. I know I wouldn`t. Since we`re only speculating, I`d say only 20% of the regulars got it right now. Will fill once it releases, plus some of the more casual people trying it out.

It is imo much better than in 2002. Where I live, IL2 wasn`t even available till 2004. Now, still right from the release day of April, the game still rests on the shelves in the most game stores I visit on the sight level (approx 160cm height). Besides that, internet stores also make the availability of CloD more than noticed. It surely makes me an optimist.

Faaaar from it. First of all, we now get the regulars to buy the game, and the western front casuals. Then the Moscow and some US planes will bring some more customers. Then I suspect we will get the P51 and P47 regardless of the theatre of operations. On one condition - this game must first be allowed to live and develop further.