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dkwookie 06-05-2011 02:25 AM

We've picked up a new group of signals
 
I remember exactly when I fell in love with dogfighting and it was when the guy in star wars mentioned this phrase. I was very young age at the time but even then I had the BOB film in my head when I was at the cinema watching this film. I am a huge star wara fan but for me it's the space dogfighting I love, not the lightsabre stuff.
My fav moment is when wedge comes in head on to take out the tie fighter on lukes tail over the death star. Whenever I play BOP i want to cover my team like that

FOZ_1983 06-05-2011 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dkwookie (Post 293560)
I remember exactly when I fell in love with dogfighting and it was when the guy in star wars mentioned this phrase. I was very young age at the time but even then I had the BOB film in my head when I was at the cinema watching this film. I am a huge star wara fan but for me it's the space dogfighting I love, not the lightsabre stuff.
My fav moment is when wedge comes in head on to take out the tie fighter on lukes tail over the death star. Whenever I play BOP i want to cover my team like that

The best parts of the Star Wars films are indeed the dog fights, I was so glad when at the end of A NEW HOPE (death star one) i saw a Y-Wing fly back to Yavin with the Millennium Falcon and 2 X-Wings, simply because i love the Y-Wing, its like a futuristic Hurricane :D a work horse!! Yet can still do the job.

But for me..the film that get my blood going and makes me want to get on IL2 ASAP is indeed the BATTLE OF BRITIAN.

A true classic. The scene that i like in that one is where the Poles are on a routine training flight (even though they were trained pilots anyway) and the keep saying "repeat please" as they sneak off to engage the HE III's. A great scene.

Just talking about that film now makes me want to get on BOP and do some dogfighting over southern England with the BOB sound track playing in the back ground.....

Robotic Pope 06-05-2011 08:59 PM

Oh, me too. The X-wing/Tie Fighter PC game series are included in my favourite ever games. I'm always wishing they would make a new one but then i'm afraid they would make it all arcadey and Clone wars cartoony.

I still play Xwing alliance now and then but it does look pretty dated. I can imagine the grahics of a proper new x-wing game would be almost movie quality, that would be awesome huh?

Foz, the Y-wing was always my favourite too. And your right about work horse, have you seen what the Y-wing looked like when it was new before the rebelion stripped it down and modded the crap out of it?

http://www.hishgraphics.com/blog/images/y-wing01.jpg

FOZ_1983 06-07-2011 12:00 PM

I think i prefer the Y-Wing as it is :D it looks a bit weird the old "delta" way. Keep your X-Wings, B-Wings,etc....

Give me Gold Squadron and some Y-Wings........

dkwookie 06-08-2011 10:25 AM

I love that Y Wing too. Only thing that bugged me is it has a rotating gun on it that looks perfect for rear gunnery. The rebels missed a beat by making it a one man bomber. A rear facing co pilot would have nailed Darth and his wingman in that trench with ease.
I noticed in Revenge Of The Sith during Obi Wan and Anakins Assault at the start they had cover by Arc fighters. Those Arc fighters do have a rear gunner

Edit found this on Starwars.com
"The initial BTL-B bomber was a double-seater craft with a forward-facing pilot, and a tailgunner in a rotating bubble turret. The Rebel Alliance maintained two basic types of Y-wings, the single-seater BTL-A4 and the double-seater BTL-S3. In the two-seater S3, the gunner sits facing rear, controlling the turret-mounted ion cannon. Both pilot and gunner are protected by a pair of Koensayr ballistic ejection seats that automatically eject both crew members. The A4 features Guidenhauser ejection systems like their X-wing counterparts."

Looks like the Yavin planners had the wrong machines for the death star attack, they needed the BTL-B!

Robotic Pope 06-08-2011 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dkwookie (Post 294905)
I love that Y Wing too. Only thing that bugged me is it has a rotating gun on it that looks perfect for rear gunnery. The rebels missed a beat by making it a one man bomber. A rear facing co pilot would have nailed Darth and his wingman in that trench with ease.
I noticed in Revenge Of The Sith during Obi Wan and Anakins Assault at the start they had cover by Arc fighters. Those Arc fighters do have a rear gunner

Edit found this on Starwars.com
"The initial BTL-B bomber was a double-seater craft with a forward-facing pilot, and a tailgunner in a rotating bubble turret. The Rebel Alliance maintained two basic types of Y-wings, the single-seater BTL-A4 and the double-seater BTL-S3. In the two-seater S3, the gunner sits facing rear, controlling the turret-mounted ion cannon. Both pilot and gunner are protected by a pair of Koensayr ballistic ejection seats that automatically eject both crew members. The A4 features Guidenhauser ejection systems like their X-wing counterparts."

Looks like the Yavin planners had the wrong machines for the death star attack, they needed the BTL-B!

Think of it this way. Whats the first thing that would get removed from WWII bombers when they needed to save weight for better performance or bigger bomb payloads? The heavy manned rotary turrets!

And then there is this... Y Wing BTL-B is the B-17. Y Wing BTL-S3 is the B-29 ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5U0_...layer_embedded

Burtonboy05 06-09-2011 03:58 AM

[QUOTE=Robotic Pope;293947]Oh, me too. The X-wing/Tie Fighter PC game series are included in my favourite ever games. I'm always wishing they would make a new one but then i'm afraid they would make it all arcadey and Clone wars cartoony.

I still play Xwing alliance now and then but it does look pretty dated. I can imagine the grahics of a proper new x-wing game would be almost movie quality, that would be awesome huh?

Foz, the Y-wing was always my favourite too. And your right about work horse, have you seen what the Y-wing looked like when it was new before the rebelion stripped it down and modded the crap out of it?

http://www.hishgraphics.com/blog/images/y-wing01.jpg[/QUOTE

XWA was and still is a great game. I'm not sure if you've heard of XWAupgrade?? If you're rig can handle it I'd suggest you go to http://www.xwaupgrade.com and start down loading all the mods. You'll also have to grab the basic installer and it adds a ton of life to a game that let's face it looks pretty dated.

These guys have done a stella job and it turns the craft from pretty average looking annimations to what they look like in the films, with in the graphics engines capability anyway.

I grabbed them all and started the game all overaging they way it should have looked first time around. It does suck the resources of an older system but SW on the PC never looked so good.:grin:

StiC 06-09-2011 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Burtonboy05 (Post 295207)

XWA was and still is a great game. I'm not sure if you've heard of XWAupgrade?? If you're rig can handle it I'd suggest you go to http://www.xwaupgrade.com and start down loading all the mods. You'll also have to grab the basic installer and it adds a ton of life to a game that let's face it looks pretty dated.

These guys have done a stella job and it turns the craft from pretty average looking annimations to what they look like in the films, with in the graphics engines capability anyway.

I grabbed them all and started the game all overaging they way it should have looked first time around. It does suck the resources of an older system but SW on the PC never looked so good.:grin:

Thanks for the link. I didn't know about this.

StiC

Shadowcorp 06-09-2011 10:53 AM

It was X-wing versus Tie fighter on the pc that started my love of dogfighting, though i think the original star wars movies had a lot to do with me buying that game. If they ever try for a console release of such classic titles as x-wing alliance or x-wing versus tie fighter i would buy it in a snap.

winny 06-09-2011 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadowcorp (Post 295327)
It was X-wing versus Tie fighter on the pc that started my love of dogfighting, though i think the original star wars movies had a lot to do with me buying that game. If they ever try for a console release of such classic titles as x-wing alliance or x-wing versus tie fighter i would buy it in a snap.

XvT was the first game I played online, first squadron I ever joined, first online mates. All through a 56k modem... eugh..

It was a great game though, remember the original BoP? Balance of Power.. Attacking the SSD in BoP with your B-wing was superb.

Then XWA came along, I wish I still had the game, I'd download those mods and take a trip down memory lane..

Whilst I like the Unleashed games Lucasarts have done lightsabre battles to death, it's about time they did an XWA or XvT for this generation.

dkwookie 06-09-2011 12:27 PM

XWA was the first PC game I played. It was like a dream come true. I still remember when I got to the death star attack on the last level.
I am going to dig out the cd and try out that advanced mod, many thanks for the link

Agree it's high time for lucasarts to do another in the series. I can only dream how close it would be to looking like the films with the current hardware

Burtonboy05 06-10-2011 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dkwookie (Post 295375)
XWA was the first PC game I played. It was like a dream come true. I still remember when I got to the death star attack on the last level.
I am going to dig out the cd and try out that advanced mod, many thanks for the link

Agree it's high time for lucasarts to do another in the series. I can only dream how close it would be to looking like the films with the current hardware

No problems chaps, I hope you enjoy the mods as much as I did and still do from time to time.

There are some great single missions that players have created too. Some are so indepth they've created whole new ships but I just stick to the basic ones. I think Darksabers page has a lot of the missions from memory if it's still up and running. THere was also a good one made which was the evacuation of echo base - basically the first mission of the game but from the point of view of a Xwing fighter and what we briefly see in the movies or have read in the books. Really well done.

Links should be on the XWA page and I think Ace Antillies made the echo base mission if you want to search for it. It only requires some very basic editing to get them to work. If I can do it anyone can as I'm far from PC savvy.

Totally agree though a new Xwing or Tie series on the 360/PS3/PC would be gold. Just give us those old games with updated sound and graphics and ill be stoked. LA dropped the ball a decade ago though - XWA was their last decent game in my opinion which was around 2002 I think. Since then they've produced nothing but rubbish.

Robotic Pope 06-10-2011 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Burtonboy05 (Post 295617)
No problems chaps, I hope you enjoy the mods as much as I did and still do from time to time.

There are some great single missions that players have created too. Some are so indepth they've created whole new ships but I just stick to the basic ones. I think Darksabers page has a lot of the missions from memory if it's still up and running. THere was also a good one made which was the evacuation of echo base - basically the first mission of the game but from the point of view of a Xwing fighter and what we briefly see in the movies or have read in the books. Really well done.

Links should be on the XWA page and I think Ace Antillies made the echo base mission if you want to search for it. It only requires some very basic editing to get them to work. If I can do it anyone can as I'm far from PC savvy.

Totally agree though a new Xwing or Tie series on the 360/PS3/PC would be gold. Just give us those old games with updated sound and graphics and ill be stoked. LA dropped the ball a decade ago though - XWA was their last decent game in my opinion which was around 2002 I think. Since then they've produced nothing but rubbish.

Thanks for the PM and the info Burton, I will definately try the mods out soon.

I have to say 2005 and Star Wars: Battlefront 2 was their last great game. 2003 being the year of Knights of the Old republic, another of my favourite ever games. Lucasarts lost a lot of repect with the cancelation of Battlefront III and now they just don't have the developers to do anything but lego games. Sad.

FOZ_1983 06-10-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 295864)
Thanks for the PM and the info Burton, I will definately try the mods out soon.

I have to say 2005 and Star Wars: Battlefront 2 was their last great game. 2003 being the year of Knights of the Old republic, another of my favourite ever games. Lucasarts lost a lot of repect with the cancelation of Battlefront III and now they just don't have the developers to do anything but lego games. Sad.

The guys that did Battlefront and Battlefront 2 (pandemic) left the Battlefront series and did the morerecent "lord of the rings conquest" on the 360.... and what a load of crap it was.

A battlefront 3 would be a great game.

Up until recently Battlefront 2 was playableon the 360 and over xbox live if youhad it as an xbox original game, but since they've now removed the ability to play old xbox games AND removed the old xbox live then its just not possible anymore.

Shame really because it was great fun on xbox live, doing the space missions where it was just all space warfare!!starting as a rebel pilot on your start destroyer and getting in your chosen craft (y-wing) and attacking the imperial star destroyers and seeing other players either doing the same or engaging the tie fighters....

Imiss that game!!

Robotic Pope 06-10-2011 05:51 PM

You can still play Battlefront 2 on your 360 Foz. I did just the other day. You just can't connect to live while playing it so no online. Its not quite the same playing against AI though, nothing like as much fun, I only played a couple of games on the Hoth level and then a space battle before I got bored and put in the BoP disk instead :)

LucasArts' canceling of BF3 sucked so much. Not only did it kill that game but it killed the company developing the game too (don't remember their name right now), so that also ment no more Timesplitters series games aswell :(

FOZ_1983 06-10-2011 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 295878)
You can still play Battlefront 2 on your 360 Foz. I did just the other day. You just can't connect to live while playing it so no online. Its not quite the same playing against AI though, nothing like as much fun, I only played a couple of games on the Hoth level and then a space battle before I got bored and put in the BoP disk instead :)

LucasArts' canceling of BF3 sucked so much. Not only did it kill that game but it killed the company developing the game too (don't remember their name right now), so that also ment no more Timesplitters series games aswell :(

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The developers were pandemic studios. They guys who did lord of the rings conquest on the 360...which was mediocre at best.

Robotic Pope 06-10-2011 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FOZ_1983 (Post 295882)
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The developers were pandemic studios. They guys who did lord of the rings conquest on the 360...which was mediocre at best.

Yeah Pandemic did BF1 and BF2. Lucasarts then gave the series to Free Radical (the developers of the timesplitters games) for BF3. The late in development cancelation of BF3 caused Free Radical to go bankrupt. I think the developers had to start their company again under a new name. EDIT: There we go, wikipedia tells me they were bought by Crytek and became Crytek UK.

dkwookie 06-10-2011 08:07 PM

Guys there are still lots of players on BF1 and 2 on PC. There are also some mods for BF2 to increase the number of star destroyers etc. They are both cheap as chips on PC from Amazon and you dont need a powerfull pc to run them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC_yc_ciclg&feature=fvsr

Burtonboy05 06-14-2011 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 295864)
Thanks for the PM and the info Burton, I will definately try the mods out soon.

I have to say 2005 and Star Wars: Battlefront 2 was their last great game. 2003 being the year of Knights of the Old republic, another of my favourite ever games. Lucasarts lost a lot of repect with the cancelation of Battlefront III and now they just don't have the developers to do anything but lego games. Sad.

True I did forget about the original Kotor that was a cracker - my mistake. Kotor 2 not so hot but they were 2 of their last decent games. I didn't really get in to SWBF so I can't comment. George should shelve his live TV series as much as I want to see it and pump some coin back in to the games which are probably a truck load cheaper to make.

dkwookie 07-01-2011 08:40 PM

Star Wars Battlefront 2 in Steam summer sale for £1.60
http://store.steampowered.com/app/6060/
If you have a PC capable of running this and any interest in Star Wars then not all your Wookies are barking if you pass on this deal.
KOTOR also £1.60 on there


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