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biltongbru 06-01-2011 01:45 PM
Spitfire fun in London
 
2 Minute video showing details of the CoD urban modelling at high speed.;) All full settings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtNS8uNL1fw

I recorded at slow speed and corrected with movie editor to ensure a smooth image. :)

The close-up detail of the city is amazing and unmatched. This game is ahead of its time, we still need some more hardware development for this game to be fully appreciated. :)

Please view in full HD for best effect. :)

Foo'bar 06-01-2011 01:48 PM
Awe Maria!

:)

TeeJay82 06-01-2011 01:53 PM
Drop Dead Gorgeous video. And as allways ofc, Keep em coming :)

Kankkis 06-01-2011 01:58 PM
Just watched once, where was popup ??

PeterPanPan 06-01-2011 02:11 PM
You can't shoot Buck Pal, Palace of Westminster etc. High Treason!!

Nice vid though ;)

PPP

ATAG_Dutch 06-01-2011 02:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterPanPan (Post 291910)
You can't shoot Buck Pal, Palace of Westminster etc. High Treason!!
Made me feel uncomfortable too, especially in a Spit!

Must be a Brit thing.:(

jg27_mc 06-01-2011 02:54 PM
What do you guys do to escape Nintendo's Super Mario green? Time of the day? Graphic driver tweaks?

Nice video BTW.

Vengeanze 06-01-2011 02:57 PM
friggin fantastic. Only missed a guy on a bike (from fmb).

Can understand that shooting at english symbols like that upsets one or two. I'd left that out.

Lololopoulos 06-01-2011 03:09 PM
hey man! i love your videos! one question, did u correct the color? the color hue in ur video looks more natural than the in game one.

biltongbru 06-01-2011 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foo'bar (Post 291893)
Awe Maria!

:)
This song/prayer is necessary for the pilot to do such a flight!:)

biltongbru 06-01-2011 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vengeanze (Post 291932)
friggin fantastic. Only missed a guy on a bike (from fmb).

Can understand that shooting at english symbols like that upsets one or two. I'd left that out.
Thanks:)

I think both king and pm were not injured; so it should be ok?:(

biltongbru 06-01-2011 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lololopoulos (Post 291940)
hey man! i love your videos! one question, did u correct the color? the color hue in ur video looks more natural than the in game one.
Thx Lololopoulos; yes I did do some filtering:)

ChicoMick 06-01-2011 03:55 PM
Bloody marvellous !!!!!

Gotta be the London video to end all London videos :)

Fantastic work !

Baron 06-01-2011 04:52 PM
The effects on the Spit skin is insane, matt at some angles glossy at others etc.


Nice job.

Doc_uk 06-01-2011 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterPanPan (Post 291910)
You can't shoot Buck Pal, Palace of Westminster etc. High Treason!!

Nice vid though ;)

PPP
Hang him :grin:

Ze-Jamz 06-01-2011 05:11 PM
Stone him...;)

Jatta Raso 06-01-2011 06:18 PM
just made me realize some immersion breakers over London: lack of sidewalks, lack of painting in the streets; those could have easily been drawn onto textures with no impact on performance whatsoever; the lack of these features make London look like a bunch of houses cluttered in the field with village roads in between... the main problem is that it doesn't end up looking very 'urban' at low alt... but nice vid anyway

Doc_uk 06-01-2011 06:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jatta Raso (Post 292008)
just made me realize some immersion breakers over London: lack of sidewalks, lack of painting in the streets; those could have easily been drawn onto textures with no impact on performance whatsoever; the lack of these features make London look like a bunch of houses cluttered in the field with village roads in between... the main problem is that it doesn't end up looking very 'urban' at low alt... but nice vid anyway
I want to see the london red buses, when i fly over, and taxis, and Rag and bone men, on horse and carts:grin:

Rattlehead 06-01-2011 06:43 PM
Great video and very fitting soundtrack.

Strangely, I thought the video would have been even better without the shooting...just looking at the Spit in all her glory was enough. But still, nice vid. :)

Dripc 06-01-2011 07:38 PM
What is this soundtrack?Title :roll:

biltongbru 06-01-2011 08:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dripc (Post 292051)
What is this soundtrack?Title :roll:
Orchestral variation of Ave Maria :)

Dripc 06-01-2011 08:07 PM
Tny
Im not religious, but its nice soundtrack :grin:

Insuber 06-01-2011 08:24 PM
I didn't notice before some nice details: bullets on stone facades produce a cascade of debris and dust ... why the hell they felt the need to create this impact effect? :)

Sternjaeger 06-01-2011 08:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vengeanze (Post 291932)
Can understand that shooting at english symbols like that upsets one or two. I'd left that out.
oh puh-lease :rolleyes:

biltongbru 06-01-2011 08:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 292064)
I didn't notice before some nice details: bullets on stone facades produce a cascade of debris and dust ... why the hell they felt the need to create this impact effect? :)
The detail of the dust cloud/debris is amazing: appears to include broken glass pieces where windows were hit as in the video. This effect results in a huge cpu muncher. The fps drops drastically when you close up to such a debris dust cloud.

philip.ed 06-01-2011 08:54 PM
Brilliant video mate! :D

Vengeanze 06-01-2011 09:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 292068)
oh puh-lease :rolleyes:
I'm not english (thank god cause they can't play soccer) but planes attacking buildings...! Just saying.
Love the vid!

Sternjaeger 06-01-2011 11:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vengeanze (Post 292077)
I'm not english (thank god cause they can't play soccer) but planes attacking buildings...! Just saying.
Love the vid!
while shooting at other planes with people inside is better? Or dropping bombs on buildings? It's a war sim man..

(as for the comment of English not knowing how to play football*, I'd run for cover if I were you hehehe ;) )



*it's football, not soccer, for further clarifications please see below
http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-02...3533359067.jpg

ATAG_Dutch 06-01-2011 11:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 292130)
(as for the comment of English not knowing how to play football, I'd run for cover if I were you hehehe ;) )
Nope, he's absolutely correct. Bunch of overpaid wet farts.:evil:

Vengeanze 06-02-2011 12:10 AM
The football/soccer was a bait.
Here's another one: why do some call themselfs english when they really are brittish?

I wish England where better cause I don't like La Liga or the primadonnas in Serie A but fact is they suck right now just like France.
Sven-Goran tried to shape em up but didn't go all the way.

ATAG_Dutch 06-02-2011 12:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vengeanze (Post 292142)
why do some call themselfs english when they really are british?
Easy one that. Because we're not Scottish, Welsh or Irish!

Thank god.:rolleyes::grin:

Sternjaeger 06-02-2011 12:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 292146)
Easy one that. Because we're not Scottish, Welsh or Irish!

Thank god.:rolleyes::grin:
now THAT'S what I call looking for trouble :mrgreen:

major_setback 06-02-2011 01:05 AM
I can understand the shooting of various objects in order to see what happens. I can even understand doing that to important historic monuments and buildings. But setting those actions to this type of music defies all logic to me.
I see nothing of the grace and beauty of the music reflected in what I see, speaking from a purely creative perspective.
I just don't get it.

ATAG_Doc 06-02-2011 01:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by biltongbru (Post 291890)
2 Minute video showing details of the CoD urban modelling at high speed.;) All full settings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtNS8uNL1fw

I recorded at slow speed and corrected with movie editor to ensure a smooth image. :)

The close-up detail of the city is amazing and unmatched. This game is ahead of its time, we still need some more hardware development for this game to be fully appreciated. :)

Please view in full HD for best effect. :)

Amazing!! Very good job!! A++

biltongbru 06-02-2011 05:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by major_setback (Post 292154)
I can understand the shooting of various objects in order to see what happens. I can even understand doing that to important historic monuments and buildings. But setting those actions to this type of music defies all logic to me.
I see nothing of the grace and beauty of the music reflected in what I see, speaking from a purely creative perspective.
I just don't get it.
Firing towards buildings just to demo the effects; :) no political meaning at all :(

Sternjaeger 06-02-2011 06:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by biltongbru (Post 292181)
Firing towards buildings just to demo the effects; :) no political meaning at all :(
biltongbru, don't listen to the critiques, some people just have nothing better to do than playing political correctness sheriffs and putting down others' work, you did a great job like the rest of your videos, I actually wish that your colour settings could be applied to CoD.

Once again I would appeal for a reality check before posting such comments on the discomfort of seeing buildings being strafed..

Baron 06-02-2011 07:22 AM
Lol, Luthier and team really did get the ball rolling in the "whine"/critique department.

klem 06-02-2011 08:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 291919)
Made me feel uncomfortable too, especially in a Spit!

Must be a Brit thing.:(
Indeed!

Shooting up major monuments is bad enough and a Court Martial offence resulting in being cashiered (like a certain Mr Pollock).

Shooting up Chez Ma'am is definitely treason, its the Tower and the Block for you my boy! And a queue of people wanting to get their hands on the Axe!


EDIT: hmmm.... I think Sternjaegers next on the list :)

klem 06-02-2011 08:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 292064)
I didn't notice before some nice details: bullets on stone facades produce a cascade of debris and dust ... why the hell they felt the need to create this impact effect? :)
One of Oleg's intentions was to enable more detail for the video makers.

MB_Avro_UK 06-02-2011 09:06 AM
Excellent!

Sternjaeger 06-02-2011 09:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by klem (Post 292222)
Indeed!

Shooting up major monuments is bad enough and a Court Martial offence resulting in being cashiered (like a certain Mr Pollock).

Shooting up Chez Ma'am is definitely treason, its the Tower and the Block for you my boy! And a queue of people wanting to get their hands on the Axe!


EDIT: hmmm.... I think Sternjaegers next on the list :)
don't get me wrong, I see your point, but it's indeed funny how the firebombing of Bremen and other German civilian targets didn't make you lot feel too uncomfortable :rolleyes:

Oleg Maddox 06-02-2011 09:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterPanPan (Post 291910)
You can't shoot Buck Pal, Palace of Westminster etc. High Treason!!

Nice vid though ;)

PPP
It is done especially. It is prohibited by laws of many countries (to destroy some objects in video games).
Say in Il-2 (original) we were not able also to destroy some historical buildings (objects) due to this reason.

Sternjaeger 06-02-2011 09:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox (Post 292240)
It is done especially. It is prohibioted by laws of many contries to destroy some objects in video games.
Say in Il-2 (original) we were not able also to destroy some historical buildings (objects) due to this reason.
Interesting!! Good to see you back Oleg, how's life treating you? :)

Vengeanze 06-02-2011 09:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 292241)
Interesting!! Good to see you back Oleg, how's life treating you? :)
So Sternjaeger, even though I personally agree with you in this matter Mr Maddox confirm what I and others have been saying - it is a sensitive matter!
Reality check right back at you. :-P

biltongbru 06-02-2011 09:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by klem (Post 292222)
its the Tower and the Block for you my boy! And a queue of people wanting to get their hands on the Axe!
ooooweee! sharp cold steel slicing my neck in one chop oooouuuch! and then the head falls 1 meter into the basket; ouch again! :(

Sternjaeger 06-02-2011 10:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vengeanze (Post 292249)
So Sternjaeger, even though I personally agree with you in this matter Mr Maddox confirm what I and others have been saying - it is a sensitive matter!
Reality check right back at you. :-P
well if that's the key of interpretation that you want to give to Oleg's statement feel free, what I read there is "the law in some countries tells that you can't destroy symbolic buildings in videogames, whilst it's perfectly ok to bomb other things or shoot ppl dead.. go figure.."

It's the same nonsense of the prohibition of the swastika in model kits in countries like Germany, as in saying that building a 1/72 scale Bf109 with accurate Nazi markings will somehow magically turn you into a Nazi fanatic..

Governments are good in stopping us from using common sense..

ATAG_Dutch 06-02-2011 10:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 292198)
Once again I would appeal for a reality check before posting such comments on the discomfort of seeing buildings being strafed..
Now then, Mr Sternjaeger, I said it made me feel uncomfortable, not that I seriously wanted legal action or a banning of such vids, or physical damage to old biltongbru (whose vids are tremendous).

It made me squirm in my seat a little bit is all.:)

Trumper 06-02-2011 10:39 AM
:) I was surprised at the height of Nelsons Column,maybe it is because we have got used to the modern skyline which is alot higher now and lack of other buildings around.
The houses at times look like rows of railway carriages.
A good video though and something the developers should have been doing to promote the game.
I am surprised by the smaller details when they haven't got some larger basics correct ie engine sounds,cockpits and lack of some landmarks and inaccurate maps.
You state you had to edit it to get it to show smooth
"I recorded at slow speed and corrected with movie editor to ensure a smooth image."
What was the quality of the gameplay before editing?
Thanks for the video ,very nice.:)

Vengeanze 06-02-2011 10:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 292261)
well if that's the key of interpretation that you want to give to Oleg's statement feel free, what I read there is "the law in some countries tells that you can't destroy symbolic buildings in videogames, whilst it's perfectly ok to bomb other things or shoot ppl dead.. go figure.."

It's the same nonsense of the prohibition of the swastika in model kits in countries like Germany, as in saying that building a 1/72 scale Bf109 with accurate Nazi markings will somehow magically turn you into a Nazi fanatic..

Governments are good in stopping us from using common sense..
We agree so lets drop this. We're taking focus from an incredible video.

biltongbru 06-02-2011 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trumper (Post 292264)
You state you had to edit it to get it to show smooth
"I recorded at slow speed and corrected with movie editor to ensure a smooth image."
What was the quality of the gameplay before editing?
Thanks for the video ,very nice.:)

Thanks Trumper:)

You can reduce game speed up to 1/16 of normal speed.

With my "outdated" rig (intel 4 core and GTX480 card) the gameplay at normal speed was stuttering with flickering and pop-ups but depending on the amount of objects on the screen the fps changed between 10 and 30.

The video fps is 25. If you record at 1/16 game speed then a game fps of 2 will result into a perfectly smooth video when normalized to the correct game speed in the movie editor (Sony Vegas). Even all tree and building flickering disappears with the final video. With the slow game speed I do not experience building pop-ups either.:)

Again I think this game is ahead of its time; we need the future super computers to run this game like soap and then it will be appreciated for what it is intended for.:)

Tiger27 06-02-2011 11:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by biltongbru (Post 292279)
Thanks Trumper:)

You can reduce game speed up to 1/16 of normal speed.

With my "outdated" rig (intel 4 core and GTX480 card) the gameplay at normal speed was stuttering with flickering and pop-ups but depending on the amount of objects on the screen the fps changed between 10 and 30.

The video fps is 25. If you record at 1/16 game speed then a game fps of 2 will result into a perfectly smooth video when normalized to the correct game speed in the movie editor (Sony Vegas). Even all tree and building flickering disappears with the final video. With the slow game speed I do not experience building pop-ups either.:)

That is why I think this game is ahead of its time; we need the future super computers to run this game like soap and then it will be appreciated for what it is intended for.:)
I had no problem with a reasonable PC to land and taxi up too the Palace at about 20fps, occasional small pauses if I looked around but smooth otherwise, not too much popup, but when I tried to record, it crashed the game, havent had that happen yet, unlike others. I have settings high to max except forest is medium and so is ground shadows, everything else on except SSAO and EP, they have done a lot in short space of time, when I think that I couldnt face land when the game was released without it dropping to 1fps.

I do only run at 1680x1050 as im still using a 22in lcd.

Nice video by the way, I wish they would have building crossing roads , but Im sure someone can straighten the roads, buidings etc out some day, it does still look quite good imo.

biltongbru 06-02-2011 11:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiger27 (Post 292284)
I had no problem with a reasonable PC to land and taxi up too the Palace at about 20fps, occasional small pauses if I looked around but smooth otherwise, not too much popup, but when I tried to record, it crashed the game, havent had that happen yet, unlike others. I have settings high to max except forest is medium and so is ground shadows, everything else on except SSAO and EP, they have done a lot in short space of time, when I think that I couldnt face land when the game was released without it dropping to 1fps.

I do only run at 1680x1050 as im still using a 22in lcd.

Nice video by the way, I wish they would have building crossing roads , but Im sure someone can straighten the roads, buidings etc out some day, it does still look quite good imo.
Hi thanks Tiger;

All settings max

I experience just once the 2 fps when flying past the parliament building tower and passing through the bullet impact debris/dust cloud where you can see hundreds of small pieces of glass?.

Vengeanze 06-02-2011 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by biltongbru (Post 292279)
Again I think this game is ahead of its time; we need the future super computers to run this game like soap and then it will be appreciated for what it is intended for.:)
I'm not too sure about that. Alot of things in this sim have been done sloppy and I can't rid the feeling that the code is not optimized. Focus has been on functionality.
Luthier himself said that next patch will be even more optimized for quads or over to the extent that frames are almost doubled.
That would give me a smooth London ride with my iMac.
But I agree that anything pre2011 is probably not enough to see all the candy even when optimized.

MB_Avro_UK 06-02-2011 03:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 292237)
don't get me wrong, I see your point, but it's indeed funny how the firebombing of Bremen and other German civilian targets didn't make you lot feel too uncomfortable :rolleyes:

Lets introduce some context here:

Auschwitz

Treblinka

Belsen

and many other camps.

20 Million Russians killed.

6 million Jews killed.

And Europe devastated.

oh, and 56,000 RAF bomber crew members killed.


I suggest you think before posting about allied firebombing:rolleyes:




The Battle of Britain was one of humanity's finest hours

Stephen Bungay, The Most Dangerous Enemy.


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Insuber 06-02-2011 03:45 PM
I friendly suggest to drop this OT nonsense.

philip.ed 06-02-2011 04:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 292433)
I friendly suggest to drop this OT nonsense.
+1 what else are PM's for?

Sternjaeger 06-02-2011 04:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 292433)
I friendly suggest to drop this OT nonsense.
+1, I'm not even bothering to get in a conversation with someone so narrow minded to put "Location: London, England (Not European!)" in his profile :rolleyes:


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