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TeeJay82 05-25-2011 12:08 PM

Up 3.0 torrent active
 
Downloading now

Ze-Jamz 05-25-2011 12:25 PM

Done and tried..this is really appreciated by me and im sure by the whole community...

Most of my flying time is Online and im afraid to say ClOd has ruined me, it runs ok for me and a bit part of my game is the eye candy...

Il2 just looks old now :( though im sure il dabble here and there but CoD with all its faults is an enjoyable experience for me...Sounds and correct FM's would be the icing on the cake..Future planesets etc will come im sure and make this game good for another 10 years modded or unmodded

TeeJay82 05-25-2011 01:49 PM

I hear ya

I can enjoy games with lesser graphics if the gameplay is good... but not the other way around

baronWastelan 05-25-2011 09:12 PM

UP3.0RC really makes me appreciate HSFX 5! Feels like a big step backwards to me. Like it was made just for guys brand new to modding Il-2.

Bearcat 05-25-2011 09:37 PM

It isn't bad .. a few bugs.. The install was a piece of cake.. I just deleted my 2.0 that was still on my drive, coped my stock 4.10.1 from D to C and it went in smooth. I have to say the new look is nice.. and the sim looks good.. The P-51 seems to me to be a lot smoother.. A LOT smoother.. handling wise. The new P-51 cockpit is interesting.. it will take a little getting used to, the new lights and the look of glass on the gauges.. but it looks good. The cockpit lights aren't as bright.. I like the fact that that solitary pipper is gone when cycling through the K-14 sights.. If you recall in one mod pack.. I don't recall which one it started in but in HSFX 5.0 the stationary dot at the center of the Mustang pipper stays when cycling through the K-14 sights very annoying.. I think the sim overall looks better with 3.0.. (but for some reason UP usually does..) I did notice a bug on the 109s.

http://file.walagata.com/w/bearcat/UP3.0-109-bug_1.jpg
http://file.walagata.com/w/bearcat/UP3.0-109bug_2.jpg

For some reason there is a smoke trail on the 109s.. and those are AI 109s so it isnt a mixture issue.. but that's what it looks like. almost.. but the lines are too defined to be mixture.

The jury is still out on the guns.. I need to fly it more before I make any assessments of that.. the same with performance, but so far overall it isnt bad.. The interface is totally different.. so is the GME..

Thanks for the effort guys.

baronWastelan 05-25-2011 10:00 PM

That's no a bug per se, it's full boost exhaust smoke. Problem with it is that it's too dark, ideally it would only be just visible, and dissapate sooner.

Bearcat 05-25-2011 10:08 PM

That's a bug.. The AI should be able to get full boost without that.. and klook at the trail... it is too even.. too angular...

rollnloop 05-26-2011 12:30 PM

AFAIK, smoke at full power is quite documented on late war german acft, due to use of synthetic fuel that did not burn well. Now i don't have any old movie handy, but maybe someone can link one that shows the effet ?

Now IL2 defaut effects are quite poor, and this feature would need a better effect, but it's expected in a soon later release, if i read well http://ultrapack.il2war.com/page/readme

Sokol1 05-26-2011 11:49 PM

BC,

I notice the same brown smoke trail in AI in 4.10.1 vanila, when they make some maneuvers or hit some altitude:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5712/17494170.jpghttp://img190.imageshack.us/img190/701/45174676.jpghttp://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4116/19955204.jpg

It is eventually - i think that are related with altitude.

Sokol1

Daniël 05-27-2011 06:59 AM

@ Sokol1. I think it has to do with planes with carburettor engines, like the Merlin engine of the Hurricanes in your pictures. As an example: the German Daimler-Benz engines have direct fuel injection, so it can take much more negative Gs. Carburettor engines can't. The fuel won't reach the engine so the combustion isn't good, so you get dirty thick smoke and the engine may stop.

It is possible that it is related with altitude too, because on high altitude is less oxygen, so the combustion will be different.

Bearcat 05-27-2011 01:10 PM

Okie doke... I stand corrected.. I don't remember ever seeing it..

TeeJay82 05-27-2011 04:09 PM

The vapor trails is unburnt Fuel

II./JG1_Wilcke 05-27-2011 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniël (Post 289568)
@ Sokol1. I think it has to do with planes with carburettor engines, like the Merlin engine of the Hurricanes in your pictures. As an example: the German Daimler-Benz engines have direct fuel injection, so it can take much more negative Gs. Carburettor engines can't. The fuel won't reach the engine so the combustion isn't good, so you get dirty thick smoke and the engine may stop.

It is possible that it is related with altitude too, because on high altitude is less oxygen, so the combustion will be different.

I could be wrong but in reading Black Cross and Red Star the accounts mention the fact that when the Bf109 would be put into a dive the Throttle Command system would enrich the mixture thereby producing trails of smoke out of the stacks. The Russians would think they had gotten kill when in fact they had not. More conjecture, story telling?

Would this happen at max throttle settings, with MW injection, the mixture would be enriched automatically prevent pre-detonation and produce the smoke trail?

Gribbers 05-27-2011 08:26 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Finally downloaded UP3.0...followed the instructions down to the letter...when i click on the new desktop icon I get the following message pop up:

Attachment 6085

Have contacted the UP website but not expecting an speedy reply...has anyone else had this?

Have never modded before so not sure if this is normal or not.

Thanks in advance!

Aracno 05-27-2011 09:29 PM

Yes, its normal.
You need to install the game in another folder, wherever you want except Program Files and Program Files (x86) folders.

Gribbers 05-27-2011 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aracno (Post 289942)
Yes, its normal.
You need to install the game in another folder, wherever you want except Program Files and Program Files (x86) folders.


Thanks Aracno.

Does that mean a dreaded re-install of game, patches and UP3? Or can I simply move the folder to another drive? :confused:

Aracno 05-28-2011 07:52 AM

I'm not an UP3 users, so i dont know if the installations was finalized when you installed in that foder.
You must try.
The best thing is to have a clean copy somewhere for backup (4.10.1) and than make a copy for the modpack.
You can move, copy and past the folder wherever you want, so you can also have multiple install.

Daniël 05-28-2011 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by II./JG1_Wilcke (Post 289869)
I could be wrong but in reading Black Cross and Red Star the accounts mention the fact that when the Bf109 would be put into a dive the Throttle Command system would enrich the mixture thereby producing trails of smoke out of the stacks. The Russians would think they had gotten kill when in fact they had not. More conjecture, story telling?

Would this happen at max throttle settings, with MW injection, the mixture would be enriched automatically prevent pre-detonation and produce the smoke trail?

I have no idea about that, but it sounds interesting.
In a CloD Friday update a long time ago somebody posted a picure of different exhaust flames which can occur. It was a nice picture which Team Daidalos could maybe use.

I'm sure the smoke can be affected by fuel type. The Germans didn't have very good fuel compared to the allied fuel. So maybe it produced more smoke at full throttle.
I'm not an expert though ;) I think there are many people at this forum who know more than me about engines, combustion and smoke types.


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