Anyone know japanese?
 

Gents ... Anyone know Japanese? ... Who can translate whole list of gauges on panel?


http://s7.hostingkartinok.com/upload...88d9c528a6.jpg

I don't really know japanese, although I can recognize some stuff, that's all.

Search for "零式輸送機２２型" here.
http://gunsight.jp/c/cockpit-3D.htm

Specifically for this image:
http://gunsight.jp/c/image3/type0trn-mod22-s.jpg

There's nothing there in higher resolution, unfortunately.

Maybe you can deduce the instruments, compare them to other jap. aircraft already made and ingame.

If anybody is wondering, the panel in the magazine scan is the L2D's [licensed jap. C-47 copy] (type 22 variant).

Thanks for the information ...

but even in that size half of gauges is difficult to recognize

Sita,

I've just reached out to a workmate who has a Japanese wife. Seeing if he or she can translate.

Gos

It would be nice) Thanks!)

The L2D... sweet <3 <3
Thank Sita for all your work!

While I'm always happy to see more flyable planes, I'm really hoping that the other DC-3 variants will also be made flyable.

My first choice would be the Li-2, since it was used in every role that the C-47 was, plus many more. And, due to the nature of the war on the Eastern Front, it saw a lot more combat action.

Cool maybe the ju-52 next?

I'm Japanese. I can read this.
But I can't speak English well. (And, I'm drinking beer now.) Sorry my poor English.



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・In first column. This say about "This illustration is the one of Model22. Model11s cockpit panel has several points different"

next

1?. Flap indicator
2.Type0 No.4 radio aircraft navigation system indicator
3.Vacuum gauge
4.Caution message "Caution : Check your rudder pedals lock and adjust, before flight."
5.Detailed Altimeter
6.Artificial Horizon
7.Compass
8.Turn Indicator
9.Variometer
10.Clock
11?.Intake air temperature
12.Intake air temperature
13.RPM Indicator
14.Auto pilot air speed volume
15.Type0 Auto pilot system control panel
16.Boost Pressure indicator
17.Boost Pressure indicator
18.Altimeter
19.Airspeed Indicator
20.Auto pilot system hydraulic Pressure
21.Boost Pressure indicator switching lever
22.Detailed Altimeter switching lever

right

23.Clock
24.Oil Pressure
25.Oil Pressure
26.Anti-freeze oil Pressure
27.Anti-freeze oil Pressure
28.Exhaust Temperature
29.Exhaust Temperature
30.Temperature meater
31.Temperature meater
32.Cylinder Temperature meater
33.Cylinder Temperature meater
34.Fuel Level
35.Fuel tank selecting Indicator
36.Air Temperature
37.Landing Gear Indicator Lights
38.Pitot tube signal light


5. last column. This say about "right picture (co-pilots seats)"
The picture is out of images.


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3.---what this? barometer?
16 and 17.---manifold pressure?
32 and 33.---what this?
35.---maybe. probably.
38.---What case this light is light up?


I'd check these more on another day.

NIIICE))) Thanks .... i will wait till you will check it again ..

Great)

For all the cargo aircraft in the game, that's my first choice for a flyable.

Used in combat from 1936-45, often in combat, sometimes used as a bomber. Served in every theater where the Nazis fought. The "starring" plane in many critical battles (paratroop landings on Denmark/Norway, Eben Emal/Belgium, Crete, Cap Bon/North Africa, attempted relief of Stalingrad). Trimotor layout, which would make it really interesting to fly.

for now situation is following ...

we have finished Li2 pits and from it we could do LD2 with no big issues ... because information about it is really limited by one Maru book ... it will be even easier than make from those pits DC-3 or C-47 ... because i don't think that some one can find all Lables and technician tables from that pit ...
so from most of that labels which now present in Li2 pit we must refuse ...

For C-47 from Li2 pit will be more difficult ...

plus i'm now specialist in foreing for me Planes ...

About Ju-52 ... yeah .. i interested in that plane too ... but like i said before ... i'm not spec in DE or US planes ...

Great to hear that the Li-2 cockpit has already been made!

I can easily get access to the cockpit and interior of a real-life C-47A Skytrain warbird (dropped paratroops on D-Day) if you want photos. Send me a PM if you're interested and tell me what you need.

Since the C-47 was unarmed, it would be the easiest of the three DC-3 variants to make flyable in the game. No gunner stations to animate.

Small Update for future ...



That would be Really Nice! if you can do that ...

Yes i want photos. We need photos.) when i get trip in Li2 Pit ... i made some about 10GB photos....

PM me ... i will say what need in most)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Detachment.jpg

Nov.1944 Philippines front "Kaoru airborne troop" in L2D.
This L2D soldiers seat is made by willows plant fiber.

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Sita, thank you so much, really, If I could, I would hug you to show you my joy, thank you for all your wonderful work, for the po2, the Li2/L2d, whaou, I was dreaming about those plane being flyable since more than a decade!

THANK YOU SO MUCH to you and your entire team.
Il2 1946 always alive, I love to play with this game with my family kids, they love it so much!
Please accept my best whishes from France.

not so fast) ... LD2 not even started ....

for now we collecting data about it ...

Is there any way forum members can help?

learn 3Dmax and Photoshop and join )))


or ....


try to read those lables ... read ... and show to me how it looks like ... in normal resolutoin ... for i can paint that lable ...




https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3500..._1b3420ab_orig

i need that lables

Maybe a little difficult to see, Sorry.

Presser -> Pressure

Thanks major)


for what those levers are responsible I know
I need characters that are written on the nameplate.
they are also harder to read

I need images of these characters

These others are too small and can't read.

Nice) Thanks ... almost Half of all)

Thank you major.kudo...


may be some one would read other name plate) ...

Wow, that looks amazing, have you raised the polycount for the models?

Looks good, keep it!

just a little

More information and correction about
http://s7.hostingkartinok.com/upload...88d9c528a6.jpg

11.Carburetor Air Temperature Gauge
12.Carburetor Air Temperature Gauge
16.Manifold pressure
17.Manifold pressure
28.Exhaust Temperature
29.Exhaust Temperature
30.Oil Temperature gauge
31.Oil Temperature gauge
32.Cylinder Temperature
33.Cylinder Temperature
36.Outside Air temperature gauge

show this.
http://gunsight.jp/b/english/hunatu03e.htm
This has many informations.

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I noticed.
10. and 23.
This plane has two clocks. Really?

good link! Thanks ... but to bad that images of gauge have so low resolution ...

any chance to get those picts higher resolution?


yep ... it can be .. for first and co-pilot

This is top page.
http://gunsight.jp/b/index.htm
and
http://gunsight.jp/c/index.htm

This person is studying Japanese WWII air plane's cockpit panel.
He's selling the research result as 3D-CG.
When informing what to use that and paying money, maybe you can get high-resolution material. 　Probably.

Very exciting news. Thanks for your effort Sita, you're really doing a wonderful job. I hope we'll be able to drop paratroopers and supplies in the near future.

Indeed, that is soooo great!
And the dropping feature would be good!

That might make sense. One clock is set to Zulu time, the other is set to local.

Or, one is set to local time and the other is a stopwatch or "time of flight" counter. That would be handy for dead-reckoning navigation if there isn't a dedicated navigator station.

FWIW, here's an interesting site for aircraft clocks. You'll notice that some of the WW2 era gauges have inset time of flight counters.

http://relojdeavion.es/INDEX%20IN.html

That is a good website, please pay a visit if you like watches like me!

For me 2 clocks sounds logic, one for the pilot, the other for the copilot

major.kudo, i need your help .... again)

can you read some from that pict?

read and show to me how it's looks like ...


https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/1555...47623_XXXL.jpg

dirrect link for full size pict

https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/1555..._3f547623_orig

I wrote by guesses during this is also included.
http://gachopin.no-ip.info/kudo/0_fb...547623_bis.jpg

I can write more many ones by guess. But some of characters doesn't match my expectation for those.
When there are no high resolution pictures, it's more difficult any more.

ok it's more than half name plate from panel ... good result! Thanks alot)

it's most biggest pict that i have ...

once again i want ask help from major.kudo

https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4127...b5def_XXXL.jpg


may be with that table you could recognize something else on board?

i think that i recognize turn indicator and rate of climb gauge name plate ...


table from that page http://gunsight.jp/b/english/data/j-reading.htm

There are 3 notices.

1.There is also something written by my guess.
So some of characters may be different from the real things.
Some of "can't read" are the word by which I think it was right from the shape of the gauge was written.

2.Maybe you notice.
Several gauges are different from this explanation.
http://s7.hostingkartinok.com/upload...88d9c528a6.jpg
I think there is some inaccurate part for the explanation picture shown first.

3.I made some mistake.
I wrote some wrong characters in the last picture. Therefore those were corrected.　Attention to red triangles.
Many characters of Japanese are changed in about 1946 to 1950.
I have written the modern characters before. Today, I used old characters.

I noticed another. I'm sorry for my mistakes.

I knew today the 5th character to have been changed during about 70 years.
I think this font is also near the real thing, too.

as always Thanks to you major.kudo))

yes ... it's because that panel from Tess = DC2 ... not DC3 Teddy ... but DC2 and DC3 like native brothers so i think gauges and name plate for it are same ...

https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/1615...2736b_XXXL.jpg

another scheme ...

This is an interesting picture again.

...I'll synthesize and think information on the picture checked so far.
Then there is two type of fuel level gauge as the big difference.

A. Round and small fuel level gauge. Fuel tank switching lever is put at different place.
B. Tank switching lever and fuel level gauge included together in large square panel.

Sita, Are you thinking which to use?

i think Variant A ... because on pict from Maru book we can see two small round gauge ... - fuel indicator and fuel tank selector ....

that Big B/W photo of pilot panel is from Tess ... so i think need work with scheme from Teddy ...

once again i want ask for the help ....

from that scheme

https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/1615...2736b_XXXL.jpg

i need 31 and 32 position ...

would be really great if someone have seen some of that gauges ...

ok ... i think i found 31 - fuel gauge ...


https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5818...2768a_orig.jpg

but i still don't have any good pict of fuel tank selector ....

oh ... almost forgot ... number 3 on scheme ... what is it could be? how it looks like?

So Gents ... i find almost all what i need to make Gauge panel for L2D...except vertical and rectangular Flaps indicator ... and second one is - fuel tank reading selector ...
(look on pict)

Nice job Sita and Major Kudo! please continue; I am begging you!

About two pictures.

that's what i have in VVS Li2 ...

Fuel tank reading reading for four fuel tant .. 1L 2L diasble 1R 2R

i think in L2D must be same number of tanks ...
Li2 Dc3 C47 have in most left front, right front
left rear, right rear fuel tanks .. Front may be similar to Main

no need to begging .. work slowly goes forward ... slowly but goes ... Big Thanks to Major ... with out his help i can't do anything ...

soon ... may be on next week i'll show first visible results ...

https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4207...0a346_XXXL.jpg

looks like its text from that name plate that we are see on right side of the pict ... or i
mistaken?

It says "Attention:Ensure that the Rudder pedals are appropriately adjusted and stabilized before flight".

as far i ubderstand that text is on the plane on gauge panel ...

thanks for the translation ... i'll make that name plate for pit ...

Caution
Check your rudder pedals lock and adjust before flight.

OMG!))) Thank you very Much Major! i'll draw that lable ... NIIIce!!

Good job Guys! and thanks for showing the visible results Sita.
I always said durable and healthy things are done slowly and step by step.
I love you guys!!

So Gents ... finally i'm ready to show some visible results of our work here ...

Great Thanks to Major.Kudo and to all who were interested...

as you can see i still i didn't have fuel tank reading selector ...

You need Japanese-Aircraft-Interiors-1940-1945 But $400.00? Wow :roll:

i have that book ... but that book does not contain needed gauge ...

This one?
http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225...AuDtQSYj_A.jpg
Well as IJN & IJA used licence built American gauges, perhaps just apply
the japanese text if worse comes to worse.

Unfortunately no ... i want single round fuel tank reading indicator...

corrected.

Thanks again) ... will fix it ...

it's totally foreign plane for me ...

but i have small objection)
about carb air temp gauge ...

if we compare with gauge panel from Tess we can see carb air temp with mark from -40 till +60 ...

gauge with mark from -60 till +40 is air thermometer

Sorry. I didn't notice until you pointed that point out.
Image was corrected again.

Please see and check this page.
http://gunsight.jp/b/english/n-keiki51e.htm

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I think there are no parts where it's already wrong.
Maybe this is last check of cockpit panel.
Isn't there difference recognition of gauges?

i think all is correct ... but like i said before ... we still missing fuel reading selector ...



and all fo that ... it's only half of issue ... next big issue is two electrical panels in front upper part of pit .... with Magneto selector for two engines ...



plus ... in Li2 i have alot name plate on Russian ... at now i think i'll delete most of it ... or may be just erase any letters on it ... because it can't be translate to Japanese in correct way .... because at first it need translate to English ...and after it translate to Japanese .. to many chance to make a wrong transation ...

that panel i mean ...

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another pict of Panel ...

plus i think name plate for fuel crans ... looks similar ... but i don't know what write on it...

3 pictures.

Thank you Major as always!)


yes i know that on electrical panel can't read nothing at all ...

what if i just take that name plate ( see o pict ) ... and set it same numbers like on photo? ...

as far i understand that simple on/off switches ...

Turn on / Turn off.

Thanks ... i think exactly same ...

Yes, I think these are same switches, too.

one more question ...

what writen there?

lamps.

almost like on PS84 ... Thanks Again)

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Thats so cool, your team is so unpredictable :grin:

yes we are))))

Guys....your work is outsanding!!
You rock!!!

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Wow! beautiful work Sita! superb cockpit!!!

Attention is collected in levers first.
And I think some of levers are incongruous.
Please check these.

all needles, levers and switches now are set to zero or Off position ... because it's only working model ...

i replace nameplate on engines levers ... for new font and made it for 10 percent smaller than it was ...

Another question for you Gents ... which color of paint are used in interiors of Japanese transport plane? ...

for now i have pit painted in A-14 ( Soviet gray paint like it was in Li2 ) as far i understand for L2D it must be some green color ...

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This might help as there's some signs of original internal colour scheme.

Courtesy of : http://www.missingaircrew.com/yap/MI...opt/index1.asp

http://www.missingaircrew.com/yap/MI...apcargo_17.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psrntcblta.jpg
:)

Nice one)) Thanks Mate)

Cockpit paint color.
I think the A31 is nearest.

Or

http://www.mr-hobby.com/en/itemDetail.php?iId=87
This is paint for plastic injection model.
Find "C127"
Several L2D were made by NAKAJIMA AIRCRAFT.

But in Japanese navy, the color of the paint depends on a production factory.
So I can't say "C127 is right" clearly.

A conversion here from a dc3 model

http://www.aviationofjapan.com/2013/...onversion.html

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lcvjbEKxkx...4-23-06+01.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-n7TJPkOr-1...3-23-06+02.jpg

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Thanks to Major.kudo ... i couldn't do that without your help!

Just .....
Wow!! Outstanding work!
Sita! Major Kudo, you are realising one of my dream...
Thank you so much!