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timholt 05-13-2011 01:28 AM

Ubisoft $74 Million Net loss
 
Cop this people;

http://www.shacknews.com/article/684...74-million-net

O_Smiladon 05-13-2011 02:09 AM

Hmmm Is the writing on the wall for COD ?

Does not look good you have to admit, Knowing UBI and past doings ???

O_Smiladon

speculum jockey 05-13-2011 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O_Smiladon (Post 282406)
Hmmm Is the writing on the wall for COD ?

Does not look good you have to admit, Knowing UBI and past doings ???

O_Smiladon

Actually this might be the best possible news for Cliffs of Dover.

If Maddox games can get Ubisoft to void their contract, they could do the distribution themselves (well Steam will do it) and reap all the rewards (most of the cash). That way they don't have to worry about Ubi skimming from their profits. Hell, it's not like they really needed them anyways. What's Ubi done to promote this game? How have the helped?

BadAim 05-13-2011 02:22 AM

Ubishaft is only the publisher. Their demise would only be an inconvenience to Maddox games, or more likely a straight up blessing.

Rather peeved 05-13-2011 02:37 AM

I think if u bother to actually read the Ubisoft results their position has improved from last year. profit and sales are both up.

cliffs of dover is very small beer to ubisoft anyhow.

nearmiss 05-13-2011 02:41 AM

It can't help

speculum jockey 05-13-2011 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nearmiss (Post 282415)
It can't help

OH NO! They might shut down that amazing web site they put so many man hours into! And all the money they have wasted on that massive ad campaign to promote Cliffs of Dover.

ZaltysZ 05-13-2011 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by speculum jockey (Post 282418)
And all the money they have wasted on that massive ad campaign to promote Cliffs of Dover.

Just look at state of game and think what possibilities for promoting this game are there. People are already unhappy, because they have received not what they expected. Imagine how angry they would be, if nice and effective ad (lie) campaign was run.

Pluto 05-13-2011 09:49 AM

Ubisoft
 
... may they go down the drain, I would not waste a tear for them!
:evil:
I guess Cliffs of Dover may as well survive and go on without them.

Luftrofl 05-13-2011 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZaltysZ (Post 282438)
Just look at state of game and think what possibilities for promoting this game are there. People are already unhappy, because they have received not what they expected. Imagine how angry they would be, if nice and effective ad (lie) campaign was run.

Have to agree. While Ubisoft sucks for a variety of reasons, I can't blame them for not wasting money promoting a game(a niche game at that) that went live in such a condition.

addman 05-13-2011 10:12 AM

Well, since Ubi didn't spend anything on CloD I bet they didn't lost anything either.:-P

Plt Off JRB Meaker 05-13-2011 10:38 AM

I don't think this will come as any big surprise,the company UBISOFT just have themselves to blame,if the way they handled the COD release is anything to go by.

COD was the first time I preordered a game from them,and to be very blunt,the customer service was in a wordXXXXX.After preordering games from GAME in the UK,I had been spoiled with confirmations,updates and most importantly a despatch message.

During the despatch of COD we all were witness to the shabby way they dispatched the game,some of the threads on this forum during this time were just unbelieveable.

I realised that although I personally was not impressed with the service, which I got from them,that I had luckily,got away lightly,to some of the poor sods who had purchased the preordered game,and their woes which they displayed on here.

UBISOFT also took the money upfront prior to the goods being despatched which I thought stunk,the first time any company had done this to me,anyway.

I would never,ever preorder from this so called company again,and I can only think that now all their problems involved in business are coming home roost!

Hexcaliber 05-13-2011 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speculum jockey (Post 282407)
Actually this might be the best possible news for Cliffs of Dover.

If Maddox games can get Ubisoft to void their contract, they could do the distribution themselves (well Steam will do it) and reap all the rewards (most of the cash). How have the helped?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadAim (Post 282408)
Ubishaft is only the publisher. Their demise would only be an inconvenience to Maddox games, or more likely a straight up blessing.

If only it were that easy, UBI are notorious for tying smaller developers up with their contracts, and refusing to release the rights to a title once the developer wakes up and realises what has happened.

It matters not one jot what UBI do to promote the product, if they own the rights to a title as happened with SH V, the developers do not have a leg to stand on. With SH V, the developers did not want to publish, and when forced to do so by UBI, wanted to continue support for the product to bring it up to a level they could be happy with, and publicly complained about UBI's refusal to continue support. Due to their contract with UBI, a single patch was released before it was dropped and the franchise left in tatters despite the developers desire to continue support and development.

A few developers swallowed up and now owned by UBI; Blue Byte software, Red storm entertainment, Mindscape, Strategic simulations INC, Massive Entertainment, Sinister Games, Wolf pack studios, Reflections Interactive, and Microids. Recognise any of those names? You should do if you have been gaming for any length of time, most but not all were published by UBI before UBI took over after first acquiring rights to their titles. Some they purchased before closing down the studio and developing their key titles in house.

UBI losing money could be very BAD for COD's future, and almost certainly explains why the release came out of the blue with little warning after being in development for so long particularly given its current state.

ATAG_Bliss 05-13-2011 12:27 PM

Umm,

Ubisoft is only the publisher. 1c has the rights. And a company like Ubisoft losing 74 million dollars is a drop in the bucket. They did much worse last year.

At the very least, someone please show me some documentation before all this crazy speculation drives more people into tinfoil hat land.

Oldschool61 05-13-2011 01:23 PM

In all likely hood they didnt actually lose money but used creative accounting to make the books look bad to avoid paying corporate taxes.


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