Happy V-E Day from everyone at 1C:Maddox Games!
 

It’s been 66 years since the war ended. Take a moment today to think about all those men who fought it for real. Playing videogames sometimes makes you forget that there were actual people doing this same thing for real, and that they were never certain of the outcome, of victory, or of their own survival.

What we do here will never do them justice, and thankfully most people playing our flight sims will never know what it’s like to fight a real war. If it just makes you think about everyone who has fought and lived or died through that war, to realize that they weren’t superhuman heroes, they were ordinary people just like the people you know today, good and bad, smart and stupid, brave and not so much, that perhaps will make you appreciate their sacrifice even more.

Also, let’s use this thread for a brief look into the future of the series.

We will not release any more details or make any official announcements for at least a few more months.

And here’s something else from another previously revealed project as well.

And happy V-E Day to you and 1C.

First shot: IL2!!

Second shot: Battle for Moscow - we already know about that one.

EDIT: Got my hopes up to soon. :)

Teasing us with the Eastern front? :grin::grin:

I love it.

First shot looks like our favourite Russian attack plane, yay! :-)

First shot is a Il-2M so I wouldn't say carrier ops but rather barbarossa.

First shot: IL2 Sturmovik !!!

il-2 :)

Happy V-E Day for u 2! Also, eastern front here we come again.:)

Il-2 eh? Great idea for a study sim if you ask me... ;)

Awesome shots.. I was hoping this would the order of released would follow along with WWII :)

another map that needs a lot of objects :D

Have I been transported to the Twilight Zone? CoD is still in major crisis and the first thread from one of the devs in days talks about some Russian add-on a few months up the road? If you don't get this game running properly pretty bloody soon nobody will touch another game from you lot with a pole, never mind an add-on for a broken one.

Yes, I'd like to play MP, mainly because there is zero SP. But I can't, MP is broken. Again. Care to talk about that instead of add-ons? Maybe some clue what you're doing about it and when we might see the results?

..so we will have Fw190, 109 G2 etc etc...?

Awesome!

Like he mentioned, this will be the only information regarding upcoming addons in the next couple of months, its good to know that they also working on the future. You are right that they should focus more on CoD, and I believe they already do looking at the amount of patches, your post is too furious and uncalled for.

will depend on the scenario, if it will be "Battle of Moskau" , so winter 1941/21, would mean no ;)

Mmm IL-2 at sunset. Me Like! Still probably my favourite plane from the original series.

ahh, so they already don't bother with clodo, now let's all do the same and wait for some eastern front stand-alone!

or, they do care over Dover but as artists can't really help the situation they are put to do work on the upcoming packs while the core devs keep on fighting the bugs after a long well deserved rest.

But I've been wrong before.

Luthier, is it true that there are a lot of 'extra features' (previously discussed in the old friday update threads) which didn't make inital release, but are ready for inclusion in CloD...or are ready for improvement and then subsequent inclusion?
It's great to see that other projects are on the horizon, but I think it is fair to say currently that CloD models the BoB, rather than replicating it.

Best wishes, and happy VE day! :D

Amen.

Unless they've fired all their art asset folks, they don't have anything to do with 99% of the current patch/codebase efforts. You've got to keep them busy doing something if you're going to keep them employed, and the art is the most time consuming thing to develop in the sim.

It's hard to be objective about that with the current state of the engine, but we've already seen a tremendous amount of work with it in the last 5 weeks. Even if it takes another 3 or 4 months to get the engine firing on all cylinders that's still half the time it takes for one dedicated 3D artist to create a full cockpit. It's unlikely those folks have the necessary skills to help at all with the patching and optimization work that's going on.

You've always got to be looking forward in the revenue cycle to the next product, even if you're still working furiously on the current one.

And yes, happy V-E day! A toast to the Red Army and the titanic conflicts they fought on the Eastern Front. Too many here in the US forget that we were just a minor side show in WWII. The men, material, and casualties involved on the Eastern Front will (hopefully) always be the single greatest conflict in the history of humanity.

Happy V-E Day :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ein/Sturmo.jpg

Too "furious and uncalled for"? What would call for it then, a game promoted as cutting edge and fully functional that turned out to be no better whatsoever than non-functional alpha code? Would that call for it do you think?

I've put DAYS into beta-testing CoD for the developers. They haven't paid me...no, indeed, I PAID THEM. So the least I expect, after a long weekend, is some bloody word on what's being done to get the MP working again, not to mention the 101 other major issues that still haven't been fixed. Not some bollocks about an add-on/expansion months down the road.

Or am I being unreasonable? Please sir, when might I expect to be able to actually play the effing game I bought instead of endlessly TESTING IT?

...so CloD sales went well!;)

It would be nice if these 3D artists were working on more ships for the Kanal instead.

We're continuing to work on CoD. The new screenshots are in no way affecting that. You have a right to be angry and to demand a working game, and that's precisely why we're so motivated to work holidays and weekends.

It would obviously be unbelievably dumb for us to abandon CoD half-finished and to expect any kind of a success with a sequel (which is what the screenshots are from). Our future success depends on making customers like you happy.

Luthier, you de man!

They could re-colour the fields and trees of England to be less flourescent lime green while they were at it.

Luthier, as contacting you is a nightmare, could you tell me here if your FMB guy or guys has taken a look at his: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=20024

Additionally, I offered to help out with modelling you all the bombs and related stuff that is still missing in the Luftwaffe inverntory. Didn`t hear anything about that either.

You're not wrong there bud, because there still seems to be a lot of disgruntled customers out there.

Good luck!

Personally I would like to see COD fixed and expanded with more planes rather than another Russian war sim.

finish Clod first than you can think of money making

Luthier, are all the elements that Oleg promised in the update threads or interviews ready for inclusion in the game once all bugs are ironed out?
It would be great if this was the case, because obviously a lot was said during the 2006 period up until release.

+1 yeah i'd really like to know these things too, I'm really hoping they have made some real headway on this offical patch since the last beta wasnt so great.

Happy VE Day all :)

Luthier, it's great to hear that addons are still on the way and I'm sure we're heading towards an epic sim series but can you give us some information on what fixes you and the team are making a priority for upcoming patches at all? I'm sure any information would be gratefully recieveb by the majority of members, even if it's just a general list of stuff on the radar.

That would be a miracle given the amount of changes made since they would have been put on hold, I'd imagine that they'll all need some work.

:shock:
And no word about a new patch ?
Not one ?
Ok

Thank you for all the joyness with this game .
Thats ridiculous !
Und echt Frech.

Yeah, some information please ;)

How things are going

the $100 dollars question will it be published by ubi ?

S!

Battle for Moscow..so Bf109E-4, Ju88A, He111, MigG-1/3, LagG-3 Series 1 and 4, I-16, I-153 etc. And Korea was also mentioned as Luthier's project at some point ;)

Thank you Russia for enduring and the final victory of the Great Patriotic War the and thank you 1C for educatng us and showing us what a gigantic task that was.
Viking

Thank you for every veteran who fought for freedom and democracy.

So I guess there will be no med addon? Too bad, would be 100 times better than defending moskau in the name of Stalin, flying a thatch plane with wooden class 1 armor...

I wanted Korea.

Happy VE Day Luthier,can't say I can get interested in the future projects until COD is made more stable,and the content within is useable,ie Comms,skins,weathering,and all the other problems we have.

Don't get me wrong,I knew what I was purchasing when I bought COD,but even so,thinking about the future projects at this stage in the game's life before it's fixed is somewhat cheeky IMO,lets walk before we can run eh?

Happy V-E Day.

And thx Luthier.



To everyon else: If u dont want to say "Happy V-E Day" dont post at all. Take it to one of the other gazillion threadhs allredy started.

Please.

Thx.

Happy VE day, let us not forget.

(For a thread from Ic wishing us a happy VE day some of the responses are pathetic, you can be disgruntled but this thread is not the place to show it, it's a bloody video game.. get some perspective.)

+1000000000000

sanity at last, beta patches after beta patches and the only things you find to come with is a idiotic hint about a stupid add-on ( which you probably will charge us for and not a very original one on top of that...the russian front again!!is it you joker...)

PLEASE FINISH THIS BLOODY GAME THE WAY IT SHOULD BE!!

I paid your game with real money right, i mean i did not pay you with monopoly money so WHY OH WHY are you acting like i should get some kind of MICKEY MOUSSE kind of service from you, please , please Luthier explain it to me, i deserve an answer as i played all of your games for the past 10 years and i bought that non playable game PRE-ORDER mind you!!

and one more things, if you must do a bloody add-on why not try the MALTA campain should be quiet a nice following to the battle of britain! don't you think? And also Sir quiet frankly speaking can anyone really could stomack another russian front campain, comment give us a break or more simply, just a playable COD and i won't even ask about the radio...

Grow up.

Yeah, happy VE Day! I’m sure most of our grandfathers would be mortified to see us playing a game based on their real-life tribulations, I know mine would. I remember feeling somewhat guilty when successfully dive-bombing the USS Arizona in a Val in ‘Pacific Fighters’, especially knowing the outcome of the mission I was replicating. As you say, hopefully most here will never know the horror of a real war, but this is one way of remembering those who fought so valiantly (and involuntarily).

Hello Luthier

Happy VE day, anyone who has taken the time to study history in any detail will know the sacrifice of the Soviet Union during WWII was the greatest of any, and to the heroic people of that country, (not to Stalin who hindered his own soldiers) we owe a huge debt of gratitude for accomplishing the main role in the defeat of Nazism.

Thanks for your hard work on CLIFFS OF DOVER, we know the Sim will eventually be everything we hoped for.

I have to say though, that I am disappointed at the decision to make another Eastern Front Sim.

Oleg at one time said we would see the Mediterranean as the next theater for the STORM OF WAR series, and the Med is one of the locations which was never simulated in either IL-2 or ANY other sim. (except through some modded maps) I think it would be preferable to see something new.

The other area which has not been covered by IL-2 is the Battle of Germany, the 8th Air Force and RAF Strategic bombing campaigns during the day and at night. These have been done by other sims, but not successfully online.

I strongly disagree, and can't believe you wrote that Ilya. One has "a right to be angry" if he was forced at gun-point to buy this "half-finished game" in its present state. If purchaser had simply waited until middle of April, he would have had a clear picture of the state of CloD and saved his precious 50 bucks for something important like tap-dancing lessons or bus fare.

My congrats to all of you in Russia for the V-E anniversary. It was a very hard, very hard time for your people, but in the end victory was achieved. Thank you!

Please, not another russian front add-on, perhaps later. Balkans and North Africa would be much more appealing, but before that, make this fine out of tune sim fully flyable.

Best,

I bet some buyers made quite some sacrifices to buy this sim after following the development for years. Youngsters and some not well or hardly paid, some who bought new hardware in anticipation...

Knowing the former record of the developers, at the beginning there were not that many doubts.

Sure some here overreact but to be deeply disappointed about current matters I can easily understand, because I am ,too.


Happy VE-day!

Well i have to say... though late 'happy V E day'

I cant believe this has turned into a flame thread again...show some respect, read the thread title again..

fellas there are a million other threads about issues you can rant in, please dont do it in this one, if you must start another thread about the addons etc fill your boots..

thks

~S~

Att1
Att2

Oh Yes ! the IL-2 Sturmovik will be Back !!

& I hope for Yaks ! they were great to fly too !

This is a classic example of a subject more monarchical of the King ..... :mrgreen:

And why don't you try to explain why asking for a finish working product which was baught in good faith should sound childish to you...senior member!

Hello baron. With respect, you really must be out of touch with the general feeling in the CoD community, that this release has been pretty much calamitous to date and the product does not work as advertised, along with many key features we were led to believe would be present being conspicuous by their absence. There is a lot of work to do.

As a paying customer, Langnasen has every right to express disappointment, even anger as I happen to know he forked out a lot of money for that system in order to play (he thought) it well. I spent a pretty penny myself solely for this sim, though nowhere near as much as him.

Ergo, to give Luthier credit at least he 'manned up' and they are doing something about it ; Langnasen's disappointment is probably typical of the silent majority, the vast majority of people do not even bother to express their opinions on forums, they will just tell their mates not to bother with this title unless it gets fixed. That is where we are, and I remain optimistic they will get there eventually. If not, then they can probably forget about any further custom from a lot of unhappy people. That's the way it is.

Luthier and co, thanks for the VE goodwishes and to quote Sir Winny.....KBO (keep buggering on).

Cheers. :)

Its simple, because you have 1000s of threads where you can cry about how angry you are.
But you choose this one thread that is about and event that is way more meaningfull that our gaming needs. And were the dev decided to give us a glimpse on the future of the series, wich will come when the engine is running steady of cuorse.

So will you grow up now?

Since when do you get paid to do beta testing

Hmmm I've seen this before. I am pretty sure this is Russian.

Happy V-E Day!

If I pay you for your game will you go away? You have 24 hours then its off the table.

Thats mature

Happy V-E day.

I too would like a med/balkans add-on (the existing planeset of CoD would already be good for that, add some 1942 aircraft that will double for the channel front '42 time period and you've got both Africa/Med and NW Europe covered up until 43) but on the other hand i also want to experience the eastern front campaigns with the capabilities of the new engine.

It will be a blast with the new damage modeling and CEM, flying those temperamental early war VVS planes or strafing armored columns in a sturmovik across the steppes.

And like others said, it makes sense to keep your artists busy with the next add-on while the coders focus on the bugs in the current version, it only saves time in the long run. ;)

LOL. Time to put up or shut up, as we say in the US.

Are you for real ??
comment sport! try be constructif and then the big V and all that... is it really the proper forum to talk about it especially having made a life time making simm ( and money) about it...
and then i was not the one who decided to talk first about a new add on right after my big speech about the big V....

To be honest Luthier i am somewhat shocked by this post, effectively what your saying here is that you guys knew all along that the game you were putting out was not fit for purpose, all those vids that you showed us pre release were completely misleading. Time and time again I asked you and Oleg to show us real in game footage but the subject was avoided at all costs, I asked many time about SLI and how well the game would run on top end rigs, each question was either ignored or thrown back in my face, a few bans were also implemented to keep me silenced. Then we had the leaked Youseff video that we can all see was a marketing ploy since noone got the game to run that well out of the box.
If you want to make us happy why dont you start with a little truth, I am more than happy to put all your misleading hype pre release behind in the past, I am more than happy to help iron out bugs with error reporting, so how about a little bit back from you guys, i.e. tell us what really happened, you guys need to level with your fan base here, you can only gain respect from that and im sure it will help us all feel a little less conned.

last whine from me, im going to be more positive in future but this post from luthier just made me a little angry. Im over it now, lets move on :grin:

Peace.

Happy V-E Day from Norway http://www.norwegian-server.com/e107...fault/flag.gif

The future looks fantastic for il2COD if it goes the same way as the first il2, Russian, Europa, pacific etc etc http://www.norwegian-server.com/e107...smiley-015.gif :)



~S~
Wandalen

future? wher is present? I cant even sell the damn game as ppl know its an epic failure....and Im selling it for cheap (not to loose all the money)...good luck with yor fun in the future...

i knew all about the games pitfalls when o bought it, i have no doubt the team will get this sorted.
I reckon its the terrain engine, memory leak? there is absolutely no reason why my rig should perform so badly in CoD over terrain, whereas in RoF over citied its really smoothe, its not the amount of houses or trees, it must be something else making it heave.

good luck anyhow

Sorry but this is poor timing.

Posting about the future of the game when you still have a lot of work to do on CoD makes me somewhat peeved.

I understand this is what is happening in the future but to be honest I really couldn't give two monkeys until this game is fixed properly. You really have a long way to go on this one and posting about expansions is really poor show in my opinion.

Tell you what since I have been beta testing this one for you guys how about we get this expansion for free?

Il-2? Well, here some tips for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-10
This plane were used during the early phase of the Korean War :)

So it's OK to praise 1C in this thread but not berate them?

How one sided.

I did a little jig when I saw the Il-2...:grin:

Happy VE day to you and your staff Luthier, I hope that you guys have finally gotten some rest.

I thought showcasing some new stuff would go down well on the forum, since (to me at least) it shows that all the speculation about the series being dropped after the US release is a lot of rubbish.
Oh well, at least some of us are happy.

Happy VE Day!!!!

I agree with this. I like the preview of the future but seriously, no update on patch progress for what we already have? I'd think after releasing the game in this state you would feel obligated to update us whenever possible, but if that's not how your roll...

Happy VE day

Common now!

VE day is a major, MAJOR occasion in Russia- a national holiday! A vague picture of il2 announcement of Battle for Moskow is completely in tune with that as was Luthier's first solemn post.

Its got nothing to do with patches, SLI, FPS, etc- its VE day for goodness sake!

Happy VE day!

Whoa! AWESOME!
I'm looking forward to buying the Eastern front version of COD, be sure.
Any release date teases? :cool:

Even the possible planepool for this scenario looks interesting:
Bf109F, Bf109E-7/B, Bf110D&E, Ju87B, Hs123,Ju88A-5&-4, He111H-6
vs
MiG-3, Yak-1, LaGG-3, P-40B/C, I-153, I-16, Il-2(singleseater), DB-3, SB-2, Pe-2
as main examples

I also , very personaly, would have preferred an early North African , not to say a MTO, AdOn first.....
Also a tactical war with groundsupport but with additonal maritime warfare like carrieroperations and torpedobombers :)

Not only bad timing but I also had to register to view the screen shots. How disappointed I was when I saw first picture of a dark-black something with no details and then second one that looks just bad.

+1

Jets with guns and cannon! Awesome :)

Happy VE day to you and your staff Luthier.

It is something to remember. The last good war?

Or was that the Falklands?

They are just trying to show that they have the future in mind and that the Storm of War series is here to stay - the first shot is meant to be dark. It's a teaser a hint as to the theater that will be modelled.

The second one is a rather highly detailed render of some (possibly important?) soviet architecture - it's out of context which makes it look strange without any ground - but it is a very detailed piece of work.

They can't possibly patch all the bugs and fix the campaigns in one magical patch, and they have acknowledged that it will take time, but that they are in no way abandoning the sim and have no intention of doing so.

It seems as if Luthier & co are damned if they do and damned if they don't at this moment.

If they release a patch, it won't fix everyone's problems all at once and someone will be left shouting.

If they release information about the future, they're shot down (pardon the pun) for not patching the current issues.

I just hope that the constant belittling of the years of work they have put into this sim doesn't douse the fire that keeps them going.

I sound quite fanboiish in this post, but seriously, have just a little bit more patience.

What?! Eastern front again?!

C´mon... there are lots of scenarios that has not been exploited yet in the series... I was expecting B-17 bomb raids over Europe, or a true north African campaign.

Don´t mean to be harsh but I don´t see the point on moving to the eastern front again when Il2 1946 is still installed in every flight simmer computer...

This place never ceases to amaze...

Had Luthier showed us some shots of North Africa, then people would be jumping up and down that they wanted the Pacific theatre instead.

Had it been the Pacific theatre, people would jump up and down that they wanted the eastern front instead.

It's all about "me, me, me."

Luthier comes on here to wish us happy VE day, an important holiday in Russia, and as an aside shows us a glimpse of the future of the series with a perfectly appropriate shot of an Il-2 Sturmovik, which was one of the biggest symbols of Russian resistance of the war.

Guess what? He didn't have to come out here and show us anything! People whine about lack of communication etc and fair enough, some of it is warranted, but my God when Luthier does show up he gets shot down in quick order. Like now.

As for some of the responses in this thread...it turns my stomach. This was a thread about rememberance and the sacrifice made by those brave soldiers...but no, instead it's given the whiners another reason to whine and bitch.
Predictable.

What do u expect from a community with and average age of 30+? (pretty pathethic isnt it)

Dont forget the carrier ops too. They were hinting about that project earlier but heard nothing since.

And boy, ain't you good at it.

Happy VE day MG, nice shots can't wait to fly over Moscow AWESOME.

P.S. Please let us have the FW190 SOOOOOON :mrgreen:

Just to clarify, if you have the notion that there is an office in Russia with 12 guys all huddled around working on IL2's and Yak's while accross the hall a guy thinks to himself.. what can I try and fix in CoC while the other guys build the next add on you are wildly mistaken :)

3D model makers make 3D models.. its what they do.. there is an amazing AD-4 Skyraider and Mig15bis done as well..but that doesn't mean that it is taking 1 ounce of resources away from getting the game back on its feet.

There is a plan for this engine, to continue to improve, optimize, add new content, new maps, theaters, etc. They have no plans to drop support for this any more than they dropped it for IL2. They are really scrambling right now to get things fixed up.. in reality they've done some amazing things in a month given the complexity of the core code.. I would expect to see a very high tempo of fixes and improvements for the next several months until it reaches a level they are comfortable with, and then they will continue to improve it as they add new things to the game..

They are very much in this for the long haul.. grab a seat, this is how IL2 started and went on for 10 years.. and the possible ceiling for this engine is 10X what IL2 is limited to

+1
and happy VE day!

Happy VE day guys (sorry i'm a couple of days late, in Oz we tend to focus on ANZAC day and VJ day).
The Il2 series really opened my eyes to the Eastern front and put the battle in the West into perspective for me. I've learned a lot from your work and thoroughly enjoyed myself at the same time.

+1

This thread should not have gone in the direction it did. A lot of you should be ashamed and embarassed.

I had a peaceful, yet eventful VE day, spent with friends and family. Hope yours was good too, Luthier.

Very much looking forward to more progress, both with CloD and with the expansions.

Happy VE-Day to you too, guys. Some of us are historians at heart, and we need to remember so that the same historical mistakes aren't repeated.

I think Luthier opened a can of worms when he added the 2 screenshots to the VE day thread.If he wanted to show a glimpse into the crystal ball,fine.He should have made 2 separate posts.

+1 as well.

For goodness sake guy, Luthier tries to share something positive and exciting about the future, while he probably spends 99.99% of the time with his nose deep in the bugs, and all a bunch of you find to do is try to kick his head back in the negative. Do you really think he's deprived of negative feedback lately, do you really think a day spent talking about the future is so bad and misplaced, really? I wonder how you guys would feel if other would publicly do that to you whenever you don't deliver as well as expected in your own job, seriously...

Anyway, it's great to imagine that we might fly IL2s and FW190 with the same kind of details as we have in the Spits and BF109! But please keep the system of merged installations of CoD + whatever comes next in the same way as each iteration of IL2 could be merged with all the previous ones for the last gen!

I do feel for all of you unhappy people out there but if this game is affecting you that much you've got other issues to deal with like getting a life. I have the game and no its not perfect yet. I actually play il2 1946 way more and enjoy it more than I do cod. I'm ok with cod at this time, it will get fixed somehow. If not by the devs....... then guess what this community has some of the best people (modders) that will take over if need be. The cat is out of the bag and there is no getting it back in......:grin: