4.09 soon?
 

At the chance of being factious, when is 4.09 anticipated?

I'll head off the cynics and state, TWO WEEKS!!! :P

Is it delayed due to the "Hacks" ? :evil:

Is it delayed waiting for 3rd party product?

Is it delayed because everyone at Maddox Games is on vacation in warm tropical location?

With SOW:BOB not coming out till '08 wouldn't it be a heck of a consolation to offer 4.09 to the public before Christmas? :wink:

Come on Oleg, we know you're not the Grinch!!! Can you let us know when you think it will be ready? are you in beta with it yet?


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Taco

I think we are waiting on the completion of the Slovakia map.

maps are done just waiting on them to finish testing. maybe 3 or 4 weeks more

GF-Mastiff, do you happen to actually know this or are you just guessing?

Are they just testing them do you know?

yes in one of Olegs post he stated that the maps were done and they were being sent up for testing.

which if you have been in the business it's almost done.
estimation is 3 to 4 weeks.
and the one person I know that was working on the maps said they were done.

well we all hope for last 4.09 patch for IL-2
and I realy hope that will increase number of players more than 32 in COOP missions
it is crucilal for all SEOW players

I really hope that the patch will do something against modding/cheating.

Otherwise lots of people will leave IL-2 before BoB is ready (I know some people that already did that), and who knows if the will rejoin when BoB is ready....

Maraz

Modding is all IL-2 has going for it at this time. With the release of BoB being consistently pushed back, people want to keep IL-2 going, but with out may changes since the release of 1946, people just want more.

This is the reason Microsoft's Combat Flight Sim is still going rather strong.

I doubt that Microsofts Combat sims are still going strong. Their forums are almost dead with the only people there are modders and others who don't know about the IL-2 series. Sure alot of people bought their sims including me but CFS3 killed the series for most people.

"excuse me I got gas"

I really haven't seen any one really cheating on IL2, if they have it's been very rare and caught by the admins. I have seen allot of exploiting going on though! Makes me sic to watch someone fly a 190 and turn it 180 and not lose speed or black out. "Exploit"! SEEN allot of that.

If CFS is still going strong, I cordially invite all the modders (re:hackers) who have done SO MUCH to 'improve' Il-2 to head on over to the CFS community and 'help' them. You've already done MORE than enough to 'help' us. PLEASE, PLEASE go help someone else now.

Once this community is totally fractured, you guys who think these criminals (read the EULA) have done us such a service can thank them that you don't have any decent servers left on Hyperlobby to fly. Yeah, they've done a WONDERFUL job...

Don't you understand, hackers don't care.

They take pleasure in runing anything for anyone, just to prove they can, and because they get great pleasure in making people like us frustrated that take pride in the fact we can put full realism in our combat flights (well as much as possible within the game). They DON'T care. They just wanna be the "bad boys" of the geek world.

Modders, I have no issues with. In fact any one who does those fine skins I download nearly every day from Ubi's forums are modders. Modders are also those guys who try hard to make the game more realistic, add more aircraft, better scenary and on and on. Not all modders are hackers.

Hackers are just wannabe modders without artistic skills :D Not that I think of programming as an inferior thing, just thinking out loud.

You can't justify this by calling them 'modders'. The code is LOCKED. The hacks were NOT approved by Oleg, 1C, or Ubi. The EULA specifically prohibits hacking into the code and modifying the sim. They did this, hence, they ARE hackers. Sugar-coat it all you want, but this IS a fact which you can NOT argue.

I've read that they don't want to change any FMs. Well, seems that they've crossed the line with the Avenger already. The plane wasn't ever intended to be flyable in it's present form, so the HACKERS made it flyable. Guess what? The plane was all but uncontrollable. So, to fix it, THEY ARE GOING TO CHANGE IT'S CENTER OF GRAVITY! Now, if this isn't against their stated intent, I don't know what is.

Like I said above, a thief is a liar, and a liar is a thief. SURPRISE! They lied about something! I'm shocked!......not....

I'm not justifiying anything the people that are causing problems are doing.

I am however fully supporting the modders that are putting a lot of effort into making IL-2 a better game, by adding more models, etc etc. As long as the game maintains its dynamics (IE, a kinda accurate flight model based on the aircraft data available, accurate weapon systems etc.) then I have no problem with it. Its just like those folks that Mod BF:2142, Quake, Doom, and on and on and come up with some really cool stuff like Team Fortress and Red Orchestra.

This thread is NOT about hacks/mods.It is about 4.09! And there is still no answer.

Never ceases to amaze me the number of idiots that equate modding with HACKING.

I suggest all you "modders" piss away off and play your hacked games with each other, leave the online community alone.

I would seriously like to get my hands on one or two of you little scumbags :evil:

I agree...all unsolisted mod/hack/peons can pissoff back to CFS3 and make it all it can be. They've been mod/hacking that sim for years and its still crap. :evil:

That aside, any idea when 4.09'll be out? That Slovakia map looks the dog's danglies and I'm keen to get to grips with it.

Well???? I'm beginning to think the wall has been put back up!

Unfreeze John Wayne and Ronnie Ray-Gun and lets get some answers!!!

4.09, 4.09,4.09,4.09...

Well, I'd rather play 4.08 with the improved sounds (read HACK) than 4.09. These sounds are the best improvement on IL2 since .... almost ever.

But that's just me and I'm an offliner and only play with close friends on private servers sometimes.

Will we have to pay for this addon or will it be free of charge?

Ask Mr. Owl
(I'd wager free though)

one thing is true it is taking too long. all the hard work goinig to BOB well just wait.

YooHoo...

4.09 in ?

2 weeks, 2 months, 2 quarters, 2 years, 2 decade, 2 centuries, 2 millenniums? a simple " in the works will be out by 12.xx.07.. would at least be nice...

http://38.114.207.12/71b4eff752adeb7...5798bc725g.jpg

about the release date:

i think the last sentence says it all
robtek

That is the exact kind of attitude that drove Oleg away from the UBI forums during the development of "Forgotten Battles" and the "friday updates". :roll:

What do you guys exactly expect from this last patch your so damn worried about it? Fifty new aircraft and an all new game.. :lol:

Besserabia, Slovakia, Objects ..........
Hopefully a better protection so that all hacks will stop working online

I wonder why...hasnt it been stated already that there is no time for antihack measurements ?

Yes, I don't think people fully understand, that a secure IL-2 on-line play, is no longer possible. It's best to just enjoy it for what it has become, and wait for bob

as far as i know the check sum does work.

Ditto, from what I have seen/heard it works fine.

Lets wait and see with 4.09 before we slate it please.

The new map... duh!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for the attitude it was a joke plat, grow a sense of humor. If Oleg ego is too frail to handle then he should just get a PR man to handle it.

[quote="Beowulf"]He has a Lackey its Evgeny. I think? Haven't even seen him posting anything. I think there going back to putting up the cold wall?

It's like trying to smuggle an ant out of Moscow now.

It works.... but don't check everything....
For example, you can't change an existing FM... but you can use for a plane the FM of another... there's no check on that...

Patch 4.09m

README
Il-2 Sturmovik: 1946
v.4.09

Warning
The current version 4.09m is not compatible with the previous versions of the sim when playing over the network (Online).
Both the server and client must have the appropriate versions in order to connect.
Attention: Version 4.09m is only for a merged version of the simulator of the proper version (FB+AEP+PF)
Add-On Installation Instructions (Please read carefully)
The Il-2 1946 add-on v.4.09m installs only over v.4.08m (1946 DVD or FB+AEP+PF+46 merged).
In order to install this add-on, run the file 409m.exe and follow the on-screen instructions.
Please note that this add-on is impossible to install over stand alone Pacific Fighters.

New Aircraft:

Flyable Aircraft:
Avia B-534
Spitfire Mk. XIV
P-51D 25lbs 150octan
P-47N
Tempest Mk. V 13lb
Ju 88A-13

AI Aircraft:
Letov S-328
La-9

Corrections:

-Updated the MiG-9FS Artificial Horizon;
-Modified the P-47 Ammocount;
-Updated the Tracer Effects on various guns;
-Updated weapons and ammunition types on the P-39, P-40, P-51, P-47, B-239, F4F3/4, F6F3/F5, Spitfire Mk. IXe;
-Modified external damage on the Yak-15;
-Modified the frontal canopy framework on the FW-190, both internally and externally;
-Updated trimmer indicators on the MiG-9;
-Modified damage model of Ki-27;
-Updated the cannon sounds on the Bf-109 series;
-Corrected MiG-9 cannon sounds;
-Decreased the volume of engines by nearby enemies as heard in the cockpit;
-Changed parameters for the Yak-3, MiG-3, P-51D, MiG-13/I-250, Yak-3R;
-Modified the MG151/20;
-Modified the Browning M2;
-Updated the in-game credits;
-Fixed errors in loadouts for Bf-109F-4, P-47D-22/27;
-Fixed the explosive range of certain guns and objects;
-Modified the engine shut-down parameters when firing the main cannon in MiG-9;
-Modified Bf-109G flight model;

New maps:
Slovakia: Ian Boys, Vladimir Kochmarsky, Ray Grützmacher, Laurent Cunin
Besarrabia: Jörg Wiedemann, Ray Grützmacher, Laurent Cunin

Oh noooo! Not again this hoax! I wonder when that fake will stop being posted everywhere. :rolleyes:

It will never stop. This a human nature. We want to know things asap. If you wait to long, you are frustrated. If you ask (as community) for something, you expect the response.

So, If you find some kind of important information, you want to share. If you are a part of the development team, just try to comment.

Say:
point no. 1 -true
point no. 2 -untrue

and so on.

It's just a patch. So you don't have to hide the information. Nobody will still it. It is not a new project, which should be developed in secret.

There should be an infomation. In patch no. 4.09m there wil be .... & it will be 4 free, available on the 9th of December 2007. That's it. It's simple. I work in IT sector (global it integrator) and we do it just like that. You can change things, it's normal.

We want our clients and prospects to be satisfited. It's fair.

Personal Regards!

Software companies in general do that, Games companies do not.

This is the truth? So does this mean we actually get the patch 4.09 on dec 9th?

No.

It just means that I wanted to present the way as it we should be informed as 1C Company's customers. Becouse we are the customers. We HAVE BOUGHT the game. We expect the modifications and addons. We are the 4.09m patch TARGET group.

It's so simple.

You expect but 1C is under no obligation to provide patches or content. It costs them money to produce.

Given the vast amount of free content over the years (no other game in history can compare to what 1C have given to us for free considering the cost of producing that free content) and Storm of War on the way I find it hard to believe anyone here really thinks a 4.09 is on the way, and besides, the 9th is a Sunday. Who in there right mind would put out a patch on a day when no one is at work other than support staff? ;)

I don't think this is a fair statement given the incarnations IL-2 has gone through over the years. Sure a patch would be nice, but I'd much rather hear of efforts getting SoW released, wouldn't you? IL-2 needs some new life breathed into it and and a new game engine and effects would do the genre wonders.

Thats funny because 1C isn't losing any thing with this game, matter of fact it is still selling Digital Downloads and off the shelves like hot cakes. 1000 people are on line different on line game search engines and it's estimated at maybe 20,000 people world wide just on line playing the game. Not to mention the ones that play SP.

How many copies were made and distributed, then sold. I bet it went platinum if they held a record of it like Music sales.

In 2004 figures were 650,000 units for Russia and 600,000 units for the rest of the world. In how far they were accurate I don't know, the easiest would be to eMail Ubisoft and simply ask for the sales figures.

Wow This game is off the hook!

Sources please? While it might still sell well and I have no doubt that people still buy it, its not selling in the region of a AAA title which sells a million in month though. Many of us have bought it multiple times to, I bet most of us here have bought IL2, IL2FB, AEP, PF, 4.06 off Boonty and IL246 so all your doing is supporting existing users who are NOT paying anything for addition patches. When you make a patch with additional content you have to pay the modellers, coders, 3rd party's, translators, QA staff, producers and associates, artists, cover rent, infrastructure and hardware labs. Its not cheap. Its why allot of publishers would rather release expansions than free content updates.

20,000 concurrent players doesn't make money for 1C or Ubisoft because the game is not subscription based and it doesn't use a micro payment system.I really doubt 20,000 is accurate either, looking on ASE, X-fire, Hyperlobby, gamespy and the Ubi lobby etc, some of which duplicate servers (ASE and hyperlobby etc) its no where near 5000. Considering the game is also heavily pirated with no CDhash linked to user accounts, all figures are misleading anyway.

I don't disagree this is a successful franchise, I love it, I just believe, with some experiance working at multinational games publisher, that people expect way way too much with patches and don't understand that it costs serious money and resources to produce them and with no financial return. Fair enough, a patch that fixes stuff, you can expect that to a certain degree but content updates? No, its naive to expect them for free.

Would you not say though, that the "free" patches and ongoing support are what have persuaded regular users to continue to purchase additional copies of the game/extra material (I personally have IL2, FB, AEP, PF, 4.04m Collection, Pe2 & IL2 1946 !!! And i'm sure i'm not the only one!) which has kept a revenue stream coming in over the years when no new products ghave been released, and have kept the user base active for years...which will give a massive initial sales impetus to the BOB-SOW series.

So its not as clear as something for nothing...Olegs business model obviously predicts that the money invested in "free" patches/additional material will pay off in terms of revenue from a loyal client base.

Its not something for nothing...its something for something!

I agree that support and bug fix patches are required for a long period after the games release and do keep people interested. Everyone likes a publisher that provides a high quality title and fixes bugs.

I'd say prior to the last 3 expansions (pe2 etc) the business model (in the west) wasn't that sound, find me another publisher that rolls out free content updates several times a year thats not a subscription based game or requires a small payment for addons though.

No doubt free content updates kept many interested but as the only decent WWII sim out there consumers are left with little choice so may well kept on playing anyway. Its hard to honestly say because we were inundated with updates, even spoiled.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not complaining that 1C does something that other developer/publishers do not but we were spoiled and no expectations are so high even the slightest hint of a patch sends the Il2 community into a frenzy.

True, true. I'd've happily paid £££s for the pre-Pe-2 free content and wouldn't have felt in the least bit aggrieved. Having said that, 1C's strategy, if that's what it was, has definately inspired a high degree of customer loyalty in me.

We may even consider playing 4.08m while we wait, mmmm? It isn't like we have nothing to play with... :rolleyes:

This thing on????

update please...

A little mildly there.Let`s call it by name.It`s idiotic to expect them for free.