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SG1_Gunkan 10-30-2007 05:21 PM

IL2 Mod/Cheat/Exploit post
 
My feelings are very hazy. First the sound "mod", then the 6DOF "exploit", and now the utilities to "make it yourself" are all over internet.

I wonder if this is going to be something like the Falcon 4.0 project. New community maps, planes, sounds, etc... Or the oposite, the end of competitive and realistic online competitions like Air War 2.

If we have SOW: BOB i think there is no problem. But i do play everyday AW2. If only they get to break the checkruntime=2, we are doomed.

Can we do something like punkbuster for IL2FB 1946?

http://i21.tinypic.com/dgj5lw.jpg

VMF-214_HaVoK 10-30-2007 07:28 PM

The issues are well known to Oleg and I do not see the point in continuously posting screens and videos of all the ways one can cheat. If anything it only gives people ideas.

We do not need 5 new post about it everyday. Oleg knows and thats all that matters. Is he going to correct the issue remains to be seen. If he does not continuous post does not enlighten the public but rather make them paranoid.

I do not see how we are doomed anyway. According to many cheating has been an issue in the sim for a very long time although after 6 years I have yet to see one. Perhaps its the people I choose to fly with and the servers I choose to fly in. I have no worries about the vets of the sim running cheats as its usually the newbies that dont respect the sim that will. And if they are its not doing them any real good as far as I can see...lol. If this was an FPS title I would be worried but seeing how its a simulator I can not see it appealing to the cheating masses. And again between UBI and here how many doomed speeches do we need?

S!

4./JG53_Wotan 10-31-2007 01:32 PM

Quote:

checkruntime=2
That already has been hacked as well - there is no way to stop cheaters and hackers in this game.

DKoor 10-31-2007 02:25 PM

There is one old and effective way....
Teh Ban mk.I!

They can cheat very very slightly in order not to be debunked... otherwise any obvious cheat will be spotted in a matter of seconds..... people are playing this game for years they can spot these things.

And NTRK's are just about the ideal tools for the job.

SG1_Gunkan 10-31-2007 03:04 PM

Sorry, i am traumatized...

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=bA2BiRAPqY8

Perhaps for others countries this cheay/mod is something old, but in Spain we discover it en masse last week... :shock:

The end or the beginnig? :?:

II./JG1_Krupinski 10-31-2007 05:56 PM

IBTL!

stalkervision 10-31-2007 06:20 PM

Hack "the Vick"! Hack "The VicK!" :) That's what all you superior acting on-line "Multi=player Nazis deserve... :P :lol:

JG53Harti 10-31-2007 06:26 PM

hopefully they find a way to close this.

stalkervision 10-31-2007 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG53Harti
hopefully they find a way to close this.

close the thread or close the loop hole? Or both? :lol:


something tells me oleg isn't to worried about it all. He has much bigger fish to fry on his plate.. :D

Ballenato 10-31-2007 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stalkervision
Quote:

Originally Posted by JG53Harti
hopefully they find a way to close this.

close the thread or close the loop hole? Or both? :lol:


something tells me oleg isn't to worried about it all. He has much bigger fish to fry on his plate.. :D

Yes, its a community problem that has to be resolved by the community. Oleg cant do much more with it.

JG53Harti 10-31-2007 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stalkervision
Quote:

Originally Posted by JG53Harti
hopefully they find a way to close this.

close the thread or close the loop hole? Or both? :lol:


something tells me oleg isn't to worried about it all. He has much bigger fish to fry on his plate.. :D

I mean close the hole not this thread ;)

stalkervision 10-31-2007 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG53Harti
Quote:

Originally Posted by stalkervision
Quote:

Originally Posted by JG53Harti
hopefully they find a way to close this.

close the thread or close the loop hole? Or both? :lol:


something tells me oleg isn't to worried about it all. He has much bigger fish to fry on his plate.. :D

I mean close the hole not this thread ;)

:D

fly_zo 11-01-2007 08:18 AM

Oh my God.....

THE SKY IS FALLING.... THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!



...and new Paradise is about to be born

Guadalcanal:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../guadal_01.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../guadal_02.jpg

SG1_Gunkan 11-01-2007 08:25 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffIuFecRHSk

You can control the pilot outside the plane, and go back to the plane!!! :lol:

Slap 11-01-2007 09:18 AM

IF memory serves, IL2 was not designed to use 6DOF due to the way the 3D cockpits where made(certain pilot viewing angles using 6DOF would show gaps in the cockpit that where not programmed in), but I can imagine it would possible to apply the zooming function for TrackIR users with no ill-effects or advantage when compared to non-TrackIR users.

Regarding the sound Mod and from what I have heard, it seems to have increased the realism and quality of sounds on some of the planes(?). I've also heard that it can be used as a cheat because you can hear other enemy planes from further away (which seems daft/not very "real" to me).
Either way, it shows that there is still quite a few things that can be done with this sim to enhance the immersion factor, which IMHO, is one of its week points.

I have not got a clue what the make-it-your-self-utility is...Something to do with a pie? :)

No need to lock this discussion/thread (so far that is :D) as it is good to hear peoples views and ideas.

JG53Frankyboy 11-01-2007 10:36 AM

my observation about the sound HACK is more that the people wanted more "balls" for the sound - realism does not count much.

Billfish 11-01-2007 11:08 AM

Pathetic......No respect for those making these and yes, where they are and who is doing them well known......

IFly_1968 11-01-2007 12:12 PM

This is getting to be so pathetic. Play the game for god sake. Everyone is acting like it is the end of the world. :roll:

DKoor 11-01-2007 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SG1_Gunkan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffIuFecRHSk

You can control the pilot outside the plane, and go back to the plane!!! :lol:

You are running from your crash landed plane and the krazy killer in P.11c strafes everything around you in attempt to get ya.........

That's fun.

fly_zo 11-01-2007 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DKoor
Quote:

Originally Posted by SG1_Gunkan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffIuFecRHSk

You can control the pilot outside the plane, and go back to the plane!!! :lol:

You are running from your crash landed plane and the krazy killer in P.11c strafes everything around you in attempt to get ya.........

That's fun.

and then... luger in your hand ..... BAMM! ... right between the eyes

FUN!

Z

RockStar 11-06-2007 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IFly_1968
This is getting to be so pathetic. Play the game for god sake. Everyone is acting like it is the end of the world. :roll:

No, only the end of online play as we know it.

GOZR 11-08-2007 02:29 AM

http://www.gozr.net/iocl/images/NN/1096dofnorway.jpg

http://www.gozr.net/iocl/images/NN/yak6dofnorway.jpg

fly_zo 11-08-2007 02:47 AM



nice map m8 :D :D

Z

BlitzPig_DDT 11-08-2007 01:26 PM

What map is that?

fly_zo 11-08-2007 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BlitzPig_DDT
What map is that?


this one:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2..._winter_01.jpg

Norway winter....

zapatista 11-09-2007 01:43 AM

i didnt realize the hacking of flight models had become so advanced !

and if the checksum security feature doesnt work either, then that basically kills the whole online scene, because you will forever doubt that a plane performing better then yours is legitimate.

ElAurens 11-09-2007 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by fly_zo
...and new Paradise is about to be born

Yeah, a "paradise" of cheesy hacked together 3D models that in no way represent the actual cockpits.

Joy...


:roll:

DKoor 11-09-2007 06:36 AM

Make nuc .50s.

1.JaVA_Platypus 11-09-2007 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy
my observation about the sound HACK is more that the people wanted more "balls" for the sound - realism does not count much.

All the syntesized sounds make all german prop aircraft sound the same! FW, BF, Ju... Is that realistic? :roll:

FoolTrottel 11-09-2007 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1.JaVA_Platypus
Quote:

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy
my observation about the sound HACK is more that the people wanted more "balls" for the sound - realism does not count much.

All the syntesized sounds make all german prop aircraft sound the same! FW, BF, Ju... Is that realistic? :roll:

:idea: Me thinks you may need to review and change your sound setup... card and speakers...


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