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raaaid 04-19-2011 02:28 PM

what would you prefer photo realistic graphics or graphics designed by vangogh
 
i think this hardware madness is taken us down the path of photorealism

well photorealistic paintings most times are worth nothing, its the artistic paintings which often are invaluable

now games are an art, why is it not like painting and be something artistic instead of boring ultra realism

i dont want realistic clouds, i see them all the time

now dogfighting at dusk on an artistic pink sky

oh boy that would be cool

swiss 04-19-2011 02:33 PM

I think you should leave the house once in while. ;)

http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/76668...an_sundown.jpg

squidgyb 04-19-2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 268000)
instead of boring ultra realism

err... missing the point that this is a flight simulator methinks.

David Hayward 04-19-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by squidgyb (Post 268007)
err... missing the point that this is a flight simulator methinks.

He's not missing the point, he's just trying to get attention.

squidgyb 04-19-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 268008)
He's not missing the point, he's just trying to get attention.

Yeah, I've just clocked the user id. iirc he was the one playing CloD at 400x300 res or something similar, claiming he will pwn those with machines which cost ten times as much as his. I might be wrong, but I don't think I am.

Ah well, he's harmless compared to some of the more vicious reprobates that pop up now and again.

Birdflu 04-19-2011 02:57 PM

Cry for attention!!

raaaid 04-19-2011 03:15 PM

tell me of an artistic game, maybe moneky island

99% of games forget art

doing a photorealistic painting is easy and has no value

i would prefer something like the box models paintings

bongodriver 04-19-2011 03:21 PM

'You are a sad, strange little man.......and you have my pitty' Buzz Lightyear toy Story.

Revelation 04-19-2011 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 268041)
tell me of an artistic game, maybe moneky island

99% of games forget art

doing a photorealistic painting is easy and has no value

i would prefer something like the box models paintings

Photorealistic painting isnt easy, if it was we wouldn't need fotos.

Nothing stopping you from going into the files and making your own textures.

Here, I drew you a plane, I think its pretty artistic so feel free to draw inspiration for aircraft textures.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2570v9i.jpg

Have fun flying IL2: Cliffs of kindergarten art.

Ailantd 04-19-2011 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 268000)
i think this hardware madness is taken us down the path of photorealism

well photorealistic paintings most times are worth nothing, its the artistic paintings which often are invaluable

now games are an art, why is it not like painting and be something artistic instead of boring ultra realism

i dont want realistic clouds, i see them all the time

now dogfighting at dusk on an artistic pink sky

oh boy that would be cool

Be carefull or you will start another group of artist like fanboys... and we allready have enough with WOP and ROF hollywood ones XD
Anyway a picasso cubism option in graphic settings would be apreciated and if devs include some duchamp dada option they would make my day !

swiss 04-19-2011 03:26 PM

Lol!

Skoshi Tiger 04-19-2011 03:29 PM

Just read a very interesting article in the Atomic magazine (Australian computing gamer magazine) which talked about this very topic, titled "Where are graphics going?".

The main point of the article is that you can have realistic representation of gamer worlds and believable representation of the worlds. The two this are very different. The quote from Jason Vandenberghe creative director of Red Steele 2 wa "I'm a believability guy. I want to believe I'm there, I don't have to believe it's real. I know it's not real, it's a game!"

Now a lot of us here are out of frustration. Basically we can't affords to even go through the training to fly a real life warbirds, let alone get to fly one. Last time I heard, what with insurance and maintenance costs etc it was about a $1000AUD an hour to run a Mustang. Do we really want to have to read the maintenance release before we scamble for a mission so we know we have to baby our aircaft?

Part of the art of making a flight sim is to make it believable on the limited technology that we've got available today. So what we if don't have several hundred bombers attacking in a mission. Our PC 's wouldn't handle it. But we only have 15 seconds of ammunition, and as in real life you get tied up in a dog fight and loose your situational awareness you loose sight of the formations anyway. Or we take down our two or three targets and then have to land. Not many of us want to have a realistic half hour refueling and rearming before we takeoff again. Most would rather hit the refly button.

In my opinion realistic graphics are fine, but as I know it's not 100% possible at the moment, I'ld reather have a work of art that's going to make me believe I'm there every time.

COD Has gone a long way towards this!

Cheers!

bongodriver 04-19-2011 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 268041)
tell me of an artistic game, maybe moneky island

99% of games forget art

doing a photorealistic painting is easy and has no value

i would prefer something like the box models paintings



try Borderlands

the Dutchman 04-19-2011 03:42 PM

People are strange when you're a stranger
Faces look ugly when you're alone
Women seem wicked when you're unwanted
Streets are uneven when you're down

When you're strange
Faces come out of the rain
When you're strange
No one remembers your name
When you're strange
When you're strange
When you're strange

People are strange when you're a stranger
Faces look ugly when you're alone
Women seem wicked when you're unwanted
Streets are uneven when you're down

When you're strange
Faces come out of the rain
When you're strange
No one remembers your name
When you're strange
When you're strange
When you're strange

When you're strange
Faces come out of the rain
When you're strange
No one remembers your name
When you're strange
When you're strange
When you're strange

OH,MY GOD!
This guy has been hunting the Ubi forums for ages,he's found the way to this forum,best hide!

winny 04-19-2011 03:48 PM

There's plenty of devs out here creating interesting visual worlds, but when you set out to create "The most realistic Air Combat simulator available" you have to make it, well, realistic.

squidgyb 04-19-2011 04:21 PM

What he really wants is CloD ported to the Love game engine:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...35169_love.jpg

e: that game is actually beautiful - especially in motion.

wildone_106 04-19-2011 04:24 PM

Wings of Prey did it perfectly, colors & mood (sorry)

squidgyb 04-19-2011 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Dutchman (Post 268063)
OH,MY GOD!
This guy has been hunting the Ubi forums for ages,he's found the way to this forum,best hide!

Pretty much the same response when he arrived at simhq ;)

Like I said before, though - at least he's one of the less... antagonistic ones.

fake edit: tune, btw

6S.Maraz 04-19-2011 04:58 PM

Er.... photorealistic graphics, I dare say :D

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4029/codvangogh.jpg

Maraz

raaaid 04-19-2011 05:08 PM

compare this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RORE56ZE244

with this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKSej...eature=related

thoug dusk is very nice but they could have render a more beautifull stars

the game ones look like made by a kid good at maths :)

bongodriver 04-19-2011 05:10 PM

Well.......that was pointless.

Sven 04-19-2011 05:12 PM

You do realize that what you see there is in Japan and does not fit the time of day at all? I say CoD is pretty spot on when I look out over the sea on a hot summer day.

swiss 04-19-2011 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 268129)

the game ones look like made by a kid good at maths :)

With watercolors, right?

jibo 04-19-2011 05:21 PM

drugs are bad

raaaid 04-19-2011 05:22 PM

away from contamination you see amazing stars

that was my only reason to study nautics :)

bongodriver 04-19-2011 05:26 PM

cluck.....cluck......gibber.....gibber.......ftums hnwhay!.......peep.......waggawagga........shnerf. .......flumanumh!

Koyan 04-19-2011 05:27 PM

Maybe we should have a Poll on this subject? 8-)

squidgyb 04-19-2011 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jibo (Post 268145)
drugs are bad

nah, the point is; drugs are good ;)

David Hayward 04-19-2011 05:49 PM

I don't think raaaid is on drugs. I think he's a clever little troll. He does just enough to distract and incite without doing enough to get banned.

jibo 04-19-2011 05:55 PM

agreed let's report this bull

David Hayward 04-19-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jibo (Post 268187)
agreed let's report this bull

I think it would be tough to ban him for pretending to be slow if you can't prove he's just pretending.

the Dutchman 04-19-2011 06:20 PM

Brilliant Maraz! LOL!

raaaid 04-19-2011 06:28 PM

well every time i come here i wonder if ill be banned

im just myself and would like more beautifull render skies

i spent 10 years on ubisoft and only got once banned for posting offtopic

now theres an ot section :)

bongodriver 04-19-2011 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 268208)
well every time i come here i wonder if ill be banned

im just myself and would like more beautifull render skies

i spent 10 years on ubisoft and only got once banned for posting offtopic

now theres an ot section :)

and I'd like to be up to my nuts in Kelly Brooks guts!.......do you think if I whinged and begged enough it might happen?

raaaid 04-19-2011 06:43 PM

according quantum physics the obserber is the one who makes reality

so according newton you cant but according sroedinger you could if you really want

i asked for 6dof on mouse

now i have 6d0f on mouse

i asked for dumped controls so you could fly at 16x

now i can fly at 16x feeling i fly at 6400kph

the team listens to people is beyond me how people often get so mean on the net

bongodriver 04-19-2011 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 268220)
according quantum physics the obserber is the one who makes reality

so according newton you cant but according sroedinger you could if you really want

i asked for 6dof on mouse

now i have 6d0f on mouse

i asked for dumped controls so you could fly at 16x

now i can fly at 16x feeling i fly at 6400kph

the team listens to people is beyond me how people often get so mean on the net

Did you ask for world peace and an end to global poverty yet?

Hatch 04-19-2011 07:23 PM

LOL all i've seen so far in these threads by RAAAid is that those that acuse him of trolling are in fact behaving as trolls.

pupo162 04-19-2011 08:13 PM

welcome to the banana raid!


you were my favorite at UBI. dont let the trolls in here get you down.

Fusek 04-19-2011 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatch (Post 268245)
LOL all i've seen so far in these threads by RAAAid is that those that acuse him of trolling are in fact behaving as trolls.

Haters gonna hate I guess.

the Dutchman 04-19-2011 08:47 PM

OMG,don't listen to him,once he starts f***ing with your brain,AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.................. .....:eek:

sorak 04-19-2011 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revelation (Post 268045)
photorealistic painting isnt easy, if it was we wouldn't need fotos.

Nothing stopping you from going into the files and making your own textures.

Here, i drew you a plane, i think its pretty artistic so feel free to draw inspiration for aircraft textures.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2570v9i.jpg

have fun flying il2: Cliffs of kindergarten art.


+100

sorak 04-19-2011 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatch (Post 268245)
LOL all i've seen so far in these threads by RAAAid is that those that acuse him of trolling are in fact behaving as trolls.

Its sad now a days. Have to hear from the "Troll finders" about how people are being 'trolls' almost anywhere you go now.

MD_Titus 04-19-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatch (Post 268245)
LOL all i've seen so far in these threads by RAAAid is that those that acuse him of trolling are in fact behaving as trolls.

Raaaid does not troll, and folk get nasty quickly for some odd reason.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pupo162 (Post 268278)
welcome to the banana raid!


you were my favorite at UBI. dont let the trolls in here get you down.

+1
Quote:

Originally Posted by sorak (Post 268344)
Its sad now a days. Have to hear from the "Troll finders" about how people are being 'trolls' almost anywhere you go now.

But that's because people behave like that a lot easier and quicker. And so, folk are behaving like trolls.

They don't have to comment.

jibo 04-19-2011 09:48 PM

the guy is pulling his bull into the official feed back topic
Quote:

i had launcher crashes, i fixed it with the regedit fix, nvidia cards

man whats people about

im playing with my low end pc and really enjoying destroying engines by putting them to the limit

for me its a matter of playing over sea and if i want i can get 80 fps by 400*300 resolution

of course i cant play over land so i just play over the sea by now

when they fix the buildings problems my rig will suffice and instead of spending two hundred on gpu ill spend 75 on collectors edition, i want that map badly
regedit fix ?? which one the old refresh fix for CRTs ??

this is not a sandpit, you 'll be tracked down as well, if you support this kind of behavior

proton45 04-20-2011 03:03 AM

I like the grafix the way they are...maybe they could use a little tweaking, but photo realism just doesn't work. At 10,000 feet the satellite photos look great, but once you get down to ground level they look like big dots...or blobs, or rubbish. So far technology hasn't tackled the issue of scaling up the detail. Their is just no way that any computer could contain the information needed to model the whole map to photo realistic standards right down to "the random building" at any "random location"...anyway.

Nice to see ya again Raaaid.

p.s. Didn't we have this conversation a couple years ago (at the zoo)?

ATAG_Doc 04-20-2011 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 268000)
i think this hardware madness is taken us down the path of photorealism

well photorealistic paintings most times are worth nothing, its the artistic paintings which often are invaluable

now games are an art, why is it not like painting and be something artistic instead of boring ultra realism

i dont want realistic clouds, i see them all the time

now dogfighting at dusk on an artistic pink sky

oh boy that would be cool


I love clouds. Unicorns and glider to!!

Friendly_flyer 04-20-2011 08:12 AM

Actually, I wouldn't mind a game that let my fly through scenery from art. Imagine skirting the spires of a Martinesque castles, frolic in the Arcadian sky in an O'Connor painting, or enjoy a flight in the dramatic light German Romanticism!

http://www.artmagick.com/images/cont...ed/martin6.jpg

http://www.mealys.com/fineart/sale_h...mages/0789.jpg

http://cla.calpoly.edu/~mriedlsp/His...riedrich-2.jpg

Or what about following the river across dramatic waterfalls or struggle to find a place to put down your kite in front of the brownish hues of Thomas Cole storm:

http://blog.anitel.org/podenglish_ar...great-fall.JPG

http://www.oceansbridge.com/painting..._1832-1836.jpg


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