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mazex 04-18-2011 10:43 PM

The new patch will cost Nvidia and AMD sales :)
 
Hi!

After the patch today the performance has bumped again for me and the performace now is really as good as I think my rig deserves!

With these settings:

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/361...postpatch2.jpg

I get 30+ fps most times, look at the video below taken a few minutes ago (look at the avg fps and max, and that is the bomber intercept over London quick mission that was COMPLETELY unplayable with the release version). A rather fun show of the damage modelling too! Tried to go below the He111 but felt something touched and felt that "something is seriously broken!". Look at the fin, amazing DM!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqp5IMf0KGs

The problem with this is that the GTX580 I was about to order at the end of this month feels overkill ;)

My rig:

Core 2 Duo E8400@3.3
GTX275
6GB DDR2
Windows 7 x64

scissorss 04-18-2011 10:57 PM

Good to hear man, I am getting the same kind of gains from the latest patch. Can only get better from here, and here is a decent place to be. :)

maxwellbest 04-18-2011 10:59 PM

Another good post. We need them to overcome some of the negativity on these forums. You could almost be forgiven for thinking there are "competitors" lurking on these boards, spreading FUD (fear, uncertainty,doubt).

JG52Krupi 04-18-2011 11:07 PM

The problem at the moment for me is low fps, I hope this is sorted in the next patch like we expect.

But what is starting to spread doubt in my mind atm is that when i disable my cpu overclock the game runs like it did in day 1!!!

fireship4 04-18-2011 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 267469)
But what is starting to spread doubt in my mind atm is that when i disable my cpu overclock the game runs like it did in day 1!!!

That makes me wonder. When I disabled my GPU overclock before, it degraded performance quite a lot if I remember, even theough the overclock is not very large (from 750MHz/900MHz to 780/1040MHz). Either the game is very sensitive to clock speeds, or due to pseudo-fullscreen, graphics cards are not up-clocking (from standby to standard clock speeds) unless overclocked.

Skoshi Tiger 04-18-2011 11:20 PM

I think it's going to have exactly the opposite effect.

With the new patch the improvements in frame rate and quality have show it's worth going through upgrade process.

I've actually been holding off any major upgrades untill I could see that it was going to have an effect.

Unfortunately I haven't been able to play any missions, (getting redy to go to work as I type) but I did get to run through the Black Death track. I'm not sure about top framerates but on my rig it plays smoother than the Black Death track in '46

And the detail! WoW! the gound level explosion are awsome! Damage decals! How about the rounds getting removed from the bofors gun magazine is it fires!

There is still away to go (levitating wingless Hurricanes and that annoying clipping when the camera gets too close to the Beaufort and you can see inside the wing - one of my big gripes with ROF) but I'm definately in for the ride!

Did I say this patch is Great!

Cheers!

JG14_Jagr 04-19-2011 12:16 AM

About the negativity, you need to remember that as initially released this was a mess... but in 2 weeks it has made massive strides. I think that at this point most people are in good shape in terms of being able to play.. But some people are not.. Some of them has old systems and don't seem to have any idea of what this type of game demands..others have need systems and it still won't work while it works great for people with the same gear.. thats really frustrating...

The biggest thing to remember is that people that are not having any show stopper problems are not likely to post here..you hear repeatedly from the people having issues.not the people spending their time playing the game :)

Roger Wilco 04-19-2011 01:13 AM

120hz?
 
Your screen shot shows your rez using 120hz? I have looked through my settings and only see options for 60hz, are you setting something in the config file to get that working ?

scissorss 04-19-2011 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Roger Wilco (Post 267540)
Your screen shot shows your rez using 120hz? I have looked through my settings and only see options for 60hz, are you setting something in the config file to get that working ?

Pretty sure that is regulated by your monitor. On a side note, AA is working! :)

carguy_ 04-19-2011 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 267628)
Ok, I'm on a crap system (q6600 with 3gb DDR2) and an older video card (9800GT w/1GB). I can run it smooth at 1280x1024 (guess I got used to that res from 1946 and having the need to spot e/a early). With only around $250 to spend, will I get enough out of say a GTX 460 w/1 GB, or should I just up my RAM to 6GB, and wait til I can drop enough for one of the top of the line cards ~$450.00-$550.00?

It seems that any type of a high end card you can get is important. The RAM that is used extensively is not onbard system memory but GPU memory. IMO if one`s getting a video card built for CoD, he should get the one with close to 2GB video memory

335th_GRAthos 04-19-2011 07:57 AM

+1 Mazex
It is really good news!


(I would stil buy that 580GTX though.... ;-) )

Happy Flying

~S~

*Buzzsaw* 04-19-2011 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 267665)
They get pretty pricey at 2gb, i'd definately have to wait then. But I wonder if the 460 will be enough of an upgrade to run decent textures at 1680x1050 and have smooth gameplay? I don't need full textures yet, and massive resolutions.

Salute

The card you want is an ATI 6950, which has 2 Gigs of video memory, can be overclocked easily to nearly 6970 specs, and which costs about $250. This is the optimum price/performance card for CoD.

mazex 04-19-2011 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Wilco (Post 267540)
Your screen shot shows your rez using 120hz? I have looked through my settings and only see options for 60hz, are you setting something in the config file to get that working ?

As hinted by others, it's the fact that my Samsung 2233rz monitor supports 120Hz that makes that alternative pop up!

bongodriver 04-19-2011 07:24 PM

Quote:

As hinted by others, it's the fact that my Samsung 2233rz monitor supports 120Hz that makes that alternative pop up!
that means you can use 3D if it's implemented, have you tried it?

mazex 04-19-2011 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 268246)
that means you can use 3D if it's implemented, have you tried it?

Nope, not yet. When I bought the monitor I was thinking of buying Nvidias 3D Vision glasses - but as the performance impact is rather large I did not want to kick my old GTX275 in the groin ;) As I'm planning on a GTX580 now I think it may be time to reconsider.... But apart from the first trials, will I sit there playing games for a long time with those glasses on? I don't think so?

So, the main reason for buying the 120Hz monitor was actually to get a more CRT like experience which I have really missed since the good ole days - and it has delivered in that aspect. Be sure! Just watching the mouse pointer while dragging it over the screen in 120Hz is a pure joy!

Heliocon 04-19-2011 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 267482)
I think it's going to have exactly the opposite effect.

With the new patch the improvements in frame rate and quality have show it's worth going through upgrade process.

I've actually been holding off any major upgrades untill I could see that it was going to have an effect.

Unfortunately I haven't been able to play any missions, (getting redy to go to work as I type) but I did get to run through the Black Death track. I'm not sure about top framerates but on my rig it plays smoother than the Black Death track in '46

And the detail! WoW! the gound level explosion are awsome! Damage decals! How about the rounds getting removed from the bofors gun magazine is it fires!

There is still away to go (levitating wingless Hurricanes and that annoying clipping when the camera gets too close to the Beaufort and you can see inside the wing - one of my big gripes with ROF) but I'm definately in for the ride!

Did I say this patch is Great!

Cheers!

I agree - if a 6 core and a 4 core get exact same performance whats the point of upgrading? If a 6 core gets 33% more performance then you upgrade (just as an example).

*Buzzsaw* 04-20-2011 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 268011)
thank you, I'll look for one!

I've been out of the loop for a few years, and everything has upgraded so dramatically, its alot of information to absorb...

You also want to add some memory, 3 gb is not enough, the game uses that much on its own, and your system requirements are on top of that. Personally I'd reccommend 6 or 8.

Also make sure you have a decent Hard Drive, minimum 7200 rpm speed, with lots of space. Ideally two 7200rpm drives in RAID 0 config if your motherboard supports that.

Macka 04-20-2011 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesehawk (Post 267665)
They get pretty pricey at 2gb, i'd definately have to wait then. But I wonder if the 460 will be enough of an upgrade to run decent textures at 1680x1050 and have smooth gameplay? I don't need full textures yet, and massive resolutions.

Cheesehawk, I run 2 x Gainward GTX 460 GLH's but as you know only one is being used at the moment in CoD. They are great cards for the price. Since latest patch I run avg 40-45+ fps over land only occasionally dropping to 35s over large towns or down on the deck, and get a constant 48-60 fps over water in a furball. Very little if any stutters except low over London.....even the big boys are getting that. My settings are everything on high except buildings detail low but run them unlimited amount. Usually don't run shadows or grass though. Original textures not the scaled down ones. My CPU is only running at 2.8ghz but is a quad. The good thing about these cards is the scalability when running in SLI if your board supports it. 2 cards together in 90% of games run about 25-30% faster than a single GTX580 which is damn near double the cost of both cards together. So its a great investment to get one now then when SLI arrives you can do a single cheap card addition and get better performance than going the whole hog with a single top-end card.
Oh and your resolution is 2 levels lower than mine so bonus there as well.

MudMarine 04-20-2011 05:00 PM

Or buy a 580 now and enjoy the sim the way it was meant to be displayed and go SLI later when all the mod makers start making improvements...

I only say this because I just bought one.... The wife is pissed I dropped 5 bills on a "graphics card" (What does a graphics card do anyways???)
:):)

Flanker35M 04-20-2011 05:05 PM

S!

I would still wait out a bit until we see how Luthier & Team get the code optimized. I am sure both nV and AMD are aware of this title and will make driver updates ;) Can't go wrong with either brand.

Heliocon 04-20-2011 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw* (Post 268490)
You also want to add some memory, 3 gb is not enough, the game uses that much on its own, and your system requirements are on top of that. Personally I'd reccommend 6 or 8.

Also make sure you have a decent Hard Drive, minimum 7200 rpm speed, with lots of space. Ideally two 7200rpm drives in RAID 0 config if your motherboard supports that.

Agreed, 6-8 is the sweet spot atm, 6 months ago I would of said 6 but now I would lean to 8 to be better "future proof" + ram is a cheap component that really helps performance especially if you multitask.

Flanker35M 04-20-2011 05:09 PM

S!

Have to say my best upgrade was installing a SSD drive. Made a difference over the old 7200rpm disc.


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