CE Map Errors
 

First off, I am not whining. The CE map (or chart!) is a 'nice to have' but I thought it might be worth pointing out some errors which could be misleading/confusing. After all, it can only be a good thing to get things as accurate and realistic as possible in our 'game'. I'm not expecting the map to be redone, I just hope this is helpful info to anyone using the map.

Some airfields are marked in the right place but with the wrong name. Some that are marked, I'm not entirely certain there were ever airfields there.

e.g. The airfield shown on the Isle of Wight (the small island just off shore from Portsmouth) is actually Bembridge, not Sandown. Sandown airfield is more towards the centre of the island, and is not shown.

The airfield shown as Tangmere is actually RAF Ford. The actual Tangmere is not shown.

The airfield shown as Wilmington never exisited, not according to my 1942 chart anyway. There is a village called Willingdon there, but no airfield. Perhaps there was an emergency strip there? I don't know.

Anyway, I'm sure there are more things, but you get the idea.

PPanPan

there was a willingdon airbase, but it was a US bomber airfield I think, not likely to be relevant to the battle of britain.


scratch that......I'm talking crap, there is a memorial to a crash site there, but willingdon airbase I heard of is not even in the UK so it seems.


p.s. another thing....wasn't wilmington on sea a fictional town made up for the 'dad's army' TV series?

I don't understand the lack of Manston (is that what Margate is supposed to be?) and since when was Calais's local airfield called Boulogne (not to be confused with Boulogne’s local airfield of the same name)?

It's pretty poor work, all things considered, especially because 10 minutes with Google could have corrected most of the errors. Does not inspire confidence in the QA process and suggests – possibly wrongly – a give-a-sh1t- attitude.

Not sure about 'On Sea', but Willmington is home of the Long Man (Not, alas, featured in CoD).

Dad's Army was Warmington-On-Sea . . . . . . . :-)

I didn't even realise Manston wasn't included.......shocking, I assumed the airfield I saw there was Manston, and it would more likely have been confused with Ramsgate rather tham Margate, there actually was a ramsgate airfield as well as Manston.

Hmm, yes. The airfield marked as Ramsgate is indeed Manston. But the most laughable bit is marking the town of Ramsgate as Reading!! Reading is over 100 miles away to the west of London. To be fair though, there is a road called 'Reading Street' in nearby Broadstairs ;)

Whilst we are in this corner of Kent, the fun continues. The airfield at Canterbury just doesn't exist. The airfield marked Lympne is actually Hawkinge and the airfield marked Littlestone is actually Lympne.

Maybe the map is coded in case it gets in the wrong hands?!

Aaahhh! yes so it was.

the phrase 'stupid boy' comes to mind right now.

Actually....while on this topic, are all these inconcistencies purely related to the CE map or are these errors manifested in the game map too? i don't have the CE.

OK on first inspection of the map in FMB, Manston is more or less ok, but ramsgate airfield is a massive paved runway?.......big 'NO', ramsgate municipal airport was always a small grass field, the airfield marked as Maidstone would in all probability be West Malling, and there is no sign of Detling, and that willingdon airfield 'is' also on the mission map, so there is some 'fixin' needed.

OK, I stand corrected, sort of. I didn't know Ramsgate airfield existed, so assumed the one marked as Ramsgate on the CE map was Manston. Either way, the map should show 2 airfields, Manston and Ramsgate.

You are right about West Malling and Detling ... see below.

Ramsgate, sorry, not Margate (was going from memory, d'oh!).

It really is enough to make you weep and is symptomatic of a general malaise about the CoD release; poor co-ordination, planning and cross-checking (probably due to lack of time). These are not difficult errors to correct and simply should not have occurred if anyone in the team had read a book about the BoB.

Might have given them pause for thought about the 'Rogue Pilot' plot, as well...:rolleyes:

Last one, and then I'll shut up.

Southend (spelled on the CE map as Sounthend) was known at the time as RAF Rochford, a satellite field for RAF Hornchurch and so frequently used by 54 Sqn et al.

PPanPan out

EDIT ... just noticed this was brought to the attention of the devs back in April 2010, presumably well before the cloth map was printed? http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=136

Epic Fail. There's no other way of looking at it :evil:

I hadn't noticed the cloth map issue as it's just 'a nice touch' but the FMB should be more accurate.

Anyone noticed 'signal ground crew to remove brake shoes' is still there in the menus?

I pointed this one out in the relevant update too.

Ah well.:(

Hi do you know if the maps are 100% correct so every building is where it should be at the time, cause i would like to know if my house is there.

I know mine isn't......thats it!!, last straw, how dare 1C exclude my house, I don't care if it was built in the 50's, I have been flight simming for 80 years and they owe me big, and if they don't put my house there with bells on and a proper coloured garden.......there will be hell to pay.

Your house is there, but it's 200 miles NNE of it's real location. Oh, and they've misspelled it :-P

Original BoB map for your reference (via RAF website)

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bob1940/images/11grpmap2.jpg

interesting reading http://www.raf.mod.uk/bob1940/controlsys.html

Interesting that Southend is referred to as Southend, not Rochford. Confusing eh!

I'm not impressed by the CE map, and the in game map isn't much better. The IL-2 1946 ingame map is much better for navigational purposes in regards to following roads. Hopefully the ingame map will be improved but I'm not holding my breath as there are a myriad of other things to fix. That said I still find the sim entertaining even with all its faults.

found another one..

http://www.south-central-media.co.uk...ap-cropped.gif

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b6...ps_preview.jpg

2005 guys

Oh Bother . Iv just spent 30mins trying to turn the names on in the in game map, lol. I didnt realise you were talking about the Collectors edition.

also . . . . . and i really hate to appear picky because i think this is an awesome and potentially brilliant piece of software . . . . they've spelt Hawkinge wrong on all the menu screens:

should be:

Hawkinge

not

Hawkindge

Save this file and open it with google earth, it shows all the air fields and gun positions, you can turn off and on what you wont to look at, when you open google earth just click on the file tab and navigate to where you downloaded it.

mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/gec/00007/0132323023.kmz

copy and paste the link above into your browser to get download.

Rochford it will soon be :)

Not unlike mindge then.

I wonder if they will patch the map? you know, send out little fabric patch corrections we can sew on to our maps?


:-P

LOL :grin: Or maybe some mod patches will creep onto the market!!