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jt_medina 04-09-2011 10:17 PM

MOD NO LONGER WORKING WITH VERSION v1.05.15950
 
NO LONGER WORKING WITH LATEST VERSION v1.05.15950

jimbop 04-09-2011 10:38 PM

Yes, I've been reading this over there as well. Anyone tested it? My machine out of action due to an abortive upgrade attempt (faulty mobo).

Also, what is the position on discussing mods for CoD on this forum? It would be good if we could get dev feedback on disabling/enabling SSAO as per above.

Shado 04-09-2011 10:55 PM

Firstly big kudos goes to kegetys for this mod, I dont know what 1C will make of it or if were even allowed to talk about it all I know is it works very well.
Frame rates have doubled here with no real notible loss of detail.

machoo 04-09-2011 10:57 PM

- Edit the Launcher.exe.config file and add kegetys.dll there similar to steam_api.dll


wheere do you put this? Anywhere or like this '<value>parts\core\steam_api.dll,kegetys.dll</value>'

Bertram W. Wooster 04-09-2011 11:02 PM

Huge improvement in framerate and, crucially, in reducing the amount of stuttering when flying over land, especially using the new nomipmaps mod that Kegetys added to that post a few minutes ago. Unfortunately, as he said in his notes the nomipmaps mod suffers from massive texture aliasing which I suspect for most people will make it an unworkable solution in the long-run. However, it does point to the underlying cause of the stuttering problem which should help either the devs or dedicated third-party tinkerers resolve the problem.

Flying over the terrain with details up and without constant stuttering (albeit with shimmering textures), I can finally see how impressive the terrain can look in this game - as in, it's going to be jaw-breakingly gorgeous once we're able to fly over it with forest and building levels up high. I have had serious doubts about the terrain but the forests, woods, scattered villages, little copses and trees lining the roads and fields bring it all together in a way I hadn't expected. Very, very nice.

bluecher 04-09-2011 11:07 PM

I've tried it too and the mod (using the lowtex and nossao) by kegetys improves my fps hugely. Stuttering became also less (nearly null)...
I can't stop playing now... it's a new game :)

Horrido!

I7 870
Nvidia GTX 570
8 Gig Ram
Win 7 64bit

Flanker35M 04-09-2011 11:26 PM

S!

That SSAO thing looked interesting. Lot of FPS lost to what?

Rather peeved 04-09-2011 11:34 PM

how do u install it?

jimbop 04-09-2011 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rather peeved (Post 258717)
how do u install it?

Follow the simhq link from OP - some discussion about installation in that thread.

Strike 04-09-2011 11:48 PM

Looks like devs should add texture quality sliders and SSAO improvement options to the game! Nice find!

jimbop 04-09-2011 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strike (Post 258726)
Looks like devs should add texture quality sliders and SSAO improvement options to the game! Nice find!

Yes, some comment on this would be good. This comment from the simhq thread speaks volumes:

No457_Squog: "MANY thanks for what you've made for the sim! I was able to cruise over London at 60+ fps at low level :-)

I made a donation at your site in apreciation, too :-)

What are your thoughts on expanding the functionality?"

Avala 04-10-2011 12:08 AM

Maybe better solution would be to decrease textures sizes and quality and to gain some performance, especially for older graphic cards.

BTW I find that "mod" a bit too difficult to install . . .

ParaB 04-10-2011 12:11 AM

Just follow the instructions, it really isn't that difficult.

I got a ~20% increase in average FPS, with no discernible loss of image quality. Excellent job!

JG14_Jagr 04-10-2011 12:45 AM

Ok.. I'm more or less retarded :) SO it took me a little bit to figure out what to actually do here..

First, get the sfsMOD for the link www.kegetys.net/misc

Install that FIRST according to the read me. You simply toss the kegetys.dll file where it tells you and then AFTER you backup the Launcher.exe.config file you make the edits shown in RED in the readme.

Now, once that is done, download the lotex and the noSSAO mod folders and put those folders where they tell you (the maid IL2 COD Directory steam/steamapps etc.)

Then for simplicity sake, open STEAM and in LIBRARY right click on the IL2 game and go to properties.. Under the GENERAL tab go to launch options and enter the following..

-mod=nossao -mod=lowtex

thats it.. hit OK and exit...

When you run the game through steam those 2 should work..

RESULTS: I have a system that I run the Bomber Intercept Mission at 1920X1200 with everything set to HIGH and no AA (because I don't think its working anyway) and I turn the SHADOWS OFF Just SHADOWS

Before the MODS

fps merging with the He111's in my Hurricane ~60 fps

After those 2 MODS

fps merging with the He111's in my Hurricane ~102fps

Over London my FPS went from the 30's to the 60's Still some occasional stutters but after about a minute its smooth as glass.

This is NOT a trivial development for this game..this is HUGE. 1C and the crew needs to incorporate this into the US release version to give performance that people can really get into and generate good reviews and sales.. this is just the kind of HIGH return fix that could buy them the time to fix things while people can still play...

Buchon 04-10-2011 01:27 AM

Disabling SSAO is a option interesting to add to the graphics options.

Actually the most interesting part of all this is that disabling mipmaps fix the shuttering completely.

So is possible that there a problem with the mipmaps in the code.

Oldschool61 04-10-2011 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avala (Post 258735)
Maybe better solution would be to decrease textures sizes and quality and to gain some performance, especially for older graphic cards.

BTW I find that "mod" a bit too difficult to install . . .

I believe by lowering your screen resolution it automatically reduced texture res. Correct me if im wrong. Ive been telling people to lower there resolution for days to get better fps but most people here are either to ignorant , stubborn or too stupid too try it.

Oldschool61 04-10-2011 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG14_Jagr (Post 258755)
Ok.. I'm more or less retarded :) SO it took me a little bit to figure out what to actually do here..

First, get the sfsMOD for the link www.kegetys.net/misc

Install that FIRST according to the read me. You simply toss the kegetys.dll file where it tells you and then AFTER you backup the Launcher.exe.config file you make the edits shown in RED in the readme.

Now, once that is done, download the lotex and the noSSAO mod folders and put those folders where they tell you (the maid IL2 COD Directory steam/steamapps etc.)

Then for simplicity sake, open STEAM and in LIBRARY right click on the IL2 game and go to properties.. Under the GENERAL tab go to launch options and enter the following..

-mod=nossao -mod=lowtex

thats it.. hit OK and exit...

When you run the game through steam those 2 should work..

RESULTS: I have a system that I run the Bomber Intercept Mission at 1920X1200 with everything set to HIGH and no AA (because I don't think its working anyway) and I turn the SHADOWS OFF Just SHADOWS

Before the MODS

fps merging with the He111's in my Hurricane ~60 fps

After those 2 MODS

fps merging with the He111's in my Hurricane ~102fps

Over London my FPS went from the 30's to the 60's Still some occasional stutters but after about a minute its smooth as glass.

This is NOT a trivial development for this game..this is HUGE. 1C and the crew needs to incorporate this into the US release version to give performance that people can really get into and generate good reviews and sales.. this is just the kind of HIGH return fix that could buy them the time to fix things while people can still play...

Now try it again with your screen res at 1280x720 and be amazed, you probably can turn EVERYTHING on.

SacaSoh 04-10-2011 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldschool61 (Post 258807)
I believe by lowering your screen resolution it automatically reduced texture res. Correct me if im wrong. Ive been telling people to lower there resolution for days to get better fps but most people here are either to ignorant , stubborn or stupid too try it.

The textures in the game are "too big", that's the problem... the solution is not to reduce your resolution, but to reduce the texture sizes. Reducing the texture resolution will lower the overall image quality just a bit, on the other side, reducing your resolution will have a big impact in your IQ (worse if you use a LCD screen).

With the mod (lowtex and nossao) fix i've gained 25fps and less stutters, without any noticeable decrease in IQ.

GOZR 04-10-2011 03:26 AM

Much better yes! We still need SLI..
It give me some serious doubt on the team...

jimbop 04-10-2011 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOZR (Post 258813)
It give me some serious doubt on the team...

I don't think it should... From what I understand SSAO is one of those more advanced graphics options that you will want switched on when your hardware can handle it. Maybe an option to disable until then would be good, though.

Mustang 04-10-2011 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jt_medina (Post 258646)

go go go !!!!

+10

JG14_Jagr 04-10-2011 03:57 AM

The way I look at this is it gives the Dev team options they can implement to make the game performance significantly better very quickly, and have those fixes implemented prior to the major US launch. I can assure you that Luthier and the Dev's are away of MANY things that can be optimized greatly and improve performance, but most of those things will take a great deal of effort and Dev time. Something like this can make a huge difference in the reviews the game will get and the directly effect sales, while other issues can be resolved and improved in the background. Scalability is the big idea in a series.. but the manner in which things got forced had made it difficult or impossible to play for lower end systems.

I have played this enough now to start to get a handle on how good I think things will be in the future of this game and I'm excited about it.. Hell, I even got multiplayer to work :)

Sakai73 04-10-2011 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbop (Post 258815)
I don't think it should... From what I understand SSAO is one of those more advanced graphics options that you will want switched on when your hardware can handle it. Maybe an option to disable until then would be good, though.

I have quite good rig and I sure don't notice any difference with SSAO on or off, graphically that is, on other hand difference is huge in fps. So why would I want it enabled if it doesn't show up in anywhere? Maybe I'm missing something?

jimbop 04-10-2011 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sakai73 (Post 258825)
I have quite good rig and I sure don't notice any difference with SSAO on or off, graphically that is, on other hand difference is huge in fps. So why would I want it enabled if it doesn't show up in anywhere? Maybe I'm missing something?

TBH I don't understand it properly but was thinking of future additions like DX11. Probably wrong though...

machoo 04-10-2011 04:49 AM

I gained a good 20 fps over land , still have to run low detail though. Good fix for now.

MadBlaster 04-10-2011 05:15 AM

Wtf. A mod to make the game playable...and CoD hasn't even been released here yet! Yes, I'm having a good chuckle right now. Maybe I can keep my 256 mb video card? That would really be funny. Anyway, good job mod guy. You do a good service.:)

sfmadmax 04-10-2011 05:18 AM

My findings,
I just upgrade to a Ati 6970 today 2GB. Let me tell you. It makes a massive difference coming from a Nvidia 8800GTS . I can play 1920 with high effects and high model. and everything else is medium.

I was getting about 35-42FPS sustained flight over land. 50FPS over water.

London was still a little rough.. Jittery mostly.

I loaded both of these mods.. I'm topping out at 50FPS over land Sometimes hitting 100FPS gameplay is very very smooth. London I was getting "SMOOTH" flights at about 25 FPS , ( if you can fly london smooth at 25fps everything else should be fine )

I cranked up the detail to highest , FPS dropped as expected Everything is max settings (except AA) 25-30FPS over land. 15-20 FPS london (smooth still) 50+ fps over water


Intel W3570 (Comparable to I7 3.2)
12GB ram Vengeance DDR3 1600
ATI Diamond 6970 2GB GDDR5 (890 clock - i think)

Wolf_Rider 04-10-2011 05:45 AM

don't know where kegetys got this idea from though...

"I'd post it on the 1C forum where the devs seem to loiter, but as it seems every thread even hinting for some problems with the game are deleted, I'm not going to bother."

with the ambient occlusion gone (at with my experience in heaven - Unigine, it really starkens up the image)

IbanezLaney 04-10-2011 05:57 AM

Awesome mod - performance has doubled for me.

Now i'm getting 50 fps flying low over London in full screen mode.
Some stutter as things load up (textures im guessing) but then its all smooth.

JG14_Jagr 04-10-2011 06:31 AM

From my testing SHADOWS should be turned to OFF, the performance hit is just not worth it. 100fps turned to 70fps with the only difference being the shadow setting. AA doesn't seem to provide much for the performance hit either. Some of the other settings you might as well go HIGH because the performance difference between low and high is very small while the look difference is very big. Using the same Quick mission over and over while changing 1 thing at a time let's you see the difference

jimbop 04-10-2011 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG14_Jagr (Post 258870)
From my testing SHADOWS should be turned to OFF, the performance hit is just not worth it...Using the same Quick mission over and over while changing 1 thing at a time let's you see the difference

Yeah, I found the same thing with the shadows which is a shame because they help with situational awareness a lot. I posted this analysis of a track in the patch feedback thread but probably relevant here too, just need to repeat with this mod in place:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5147/...1caa6546_b.jpg
1013954

Fuchs 04-10-2011 07:18 AM

kegetys your are my new best friend!!!
did you plan to give some coding lessons to the 1C team?

thanks a lot, i'll sent you a donation equal of the prise of the European version of COD!

IbanezLaney 04-10-2011 07:29 AM

I just played around a bit with the nossao, lowtex and nomipmaps options and noticed I get the highest fps with only -mod=nossao enabled and the other 2 not running.

Anyone else tried this and find the same thing happening?

senseispcc 04-10-2011 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParaB (Post 258737)
Just follow the instructions, it really isn't that difficult.

I got a ~20% increase in average FPS, with no discernible loss of image quality. Excellent job!

Not with my PC.
Same results than before, it is not so much the fps that are my problem but the micro stetter.:rolleyes:

Fuchs 04-10-2011 08:20 AM

you have probably miss something during install dude!
i get stuttering so only a few moments an really less than before

@.@ 04-10-2011 08:37 AM

Jesus christ bananas!

I am getting 120fps over sea and 60 over land :!::!::!:

senseispcc 04-10-2011 08:39 AM

Micro stutters
 
Hello,

The only improvement to reduce this micro a stutter is for me to downgrade the "building detail" from very high to high or medium. Then at very low flight altitude the stutter disappear and fps are always the same.

;)

Fall_Pink? 04-10-2011 08:55 AM

Sorry, doesn't fix it for me ;-( I've tried all mods: Nossao, nomipmaps and lowtex, but they do not fix the stutters.

I just run the 'cross country' mission. If that simple mission (1 bomber flying over land) runs without stutters, I consider it fixed.

Rgs,
FP

edit: Ok, go it to 'work'. First tests did not load these mods properly I guess. Loading them by using the steam client options did not work for some reason. Now created a shortcut and they load. mipmap mod however leads to many strange loading results. First quick mission loads, then others will as well. If I choose cross country as the first mission, then the game won't load. Shimmering is a bit too much for me, but nice to see the stutters have been 'fixed'. The problem is now known and 1C/Maddox should know what to do...;-)

senseispcc 04-10-2011 08:57 AM

I stand corrected.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuchs (Post 258917)
you have probably miss something during install dude!
i get stuttering so only a few moments an really less than before


The fps are a little higher but the micro stutter is the same or nearly so (there are no instruments to measure this objectively). Sorry; the only way to reduce them is to set the "building detail" to high or medium. ;)

doghous3 04-10-2011 09:16 AM

Kudos to the guy!

Had some interesting testing with this mod. I bet a lot of people are smiling. :grin:

FPS wasn't an issue for me in most cases, but it has certainly increased FPS without a doubt.

Ran it with both, then just nossao, then just lowtex.

I found lowtex made the landscape look 'ugly' and didn't improve performace, so I removed it. Although the 'ugly' is hardly noticable at higher alititude; making it moot for most I'm sure.

The nossao certainly had an impact, reducing stutter's, although not eliminating them, and increasing FPS! No discernable difference in visuals.

Settings: 1920x1200, all max except - no AA, very low building detail/amount; tree high.

I7 (gulftown), 12Gb RAM, HD5970

Here's a screenie on how the ground looked with mod and without.

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2061/modnmod.png

Flanker35M 04-10-2011 09:18 AM

S!

Tested the "no SSAO" on my rig. Instant jump in FPS and really can't tell the difference in IQ. Make this an option in GUI..would be better to have more options with proper documentation what they do.

This mipmap thing. You notice it easiest with lower building settings how the houses change from "non-skinned" to detailed and back depending on your position. And the use of huge textures..why? With a bit of work you can make things look good with less size too..or?

Wolf_Rider 04-10-2011 09:23 AM

documentation in the Steam\SteamApps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\ manual folder (pdf)

Doc_uk 04-10-2011 09:26 AM

How the hell do you install this to get it working

To install, first install the SFSMOD v1.1 (or newer) from:
http://www.kegetys.net/misc ive done that
and make sure it is working. Then, extract this archive to
the IL2COD directory (so you get the "nossao" dir under the game
directory). Finally use -mod=nossao commandline parameter to
enable the mod for launcher.exe.

That is the worst install guide ever
How about telling us how to enable -mod=nossao commandline parameter
Not all of us are computer experts

Flanker35M 04-10-2011 09:35 AM

S!

Doc, the noSSAO thing has a readme where it is explained. Got it to work within minutes. Just make sure to make a backup of the launcher.config first. Rest is basically copy/paste.

Also tested the no mipmap thing. First time a COMPLETELY stutter free gaming experience! Sure as Kegetys stated the shimmer is there, but do I mind if the stutter is gone? NO! :) I can now run CoD 1920x1200 MAXED out with no stutter and very nice FPS :)

doghous3 04-10-2011 09:35 AM

YOu need to d/l not only the kegetys file, but d/l the nasao and lowtex zips.

the zips you extract to the install directory so you have two new folders nassao and lowtex.

I'm sure the guide was straight forward.

Goto steam library, right-click CoD and select properties, select "set launce options" and write -mod=nossao -mod=lowtex.

danjama 04-10-2011 10:12 AM

This is really great news! Well done to the modder. I hope 1C recognise him, and thank him.

Kankkis 04-10-2011 10:20 AM

Now devs know what problems causing stuttering, i think there is soon official fix fot it. at least i hope.

Kankkis

Flanker35M 04-10-2011 10:24 AM

S!

At least should give an idea to Luthier & Team what to look into :) Make SSAO an option in GUI + heavy optimization in mipmaps and those texture sizes.

Bushido 04-10-2011 10:25 AM

Hello,

The mimapmod cause a launcher.exe crash during the mission loading.

Other mods work great and I have a noticeable improvement, game is playable now, thanks.

Vista 32, Core2Duo E8500, 3.2Giga ram, 8800 GTS512

David198502 04-10-2011 10:26 AM

Man that mod is really doing miracles on my rig!!!!
first i thought it would be hard to install it for me,as im not a native speaker.but i read the readme twice and slowly,followed the instructions step by step.
after that,i launched the game.curious,how i am, i opened quick mission over london.before the mod i had, i think average 5fps and massive stutters, so that it was unplayable.
NOW after the mod, i have average 30fps!!!!and the stutters are way less!its totally playable over london for me!it even feels smooth.
that was five minutes ago.now i have to start it again to try it over land and sea.
thx to the creator of that!you really made my day!

Strike 04-10-2011 10:34 AM

yeah worked very well on my rig too without too big of a beauty-reduction :) Running London with shadows on all settings med/high with fluid gameplay :) 9x 111's and 6x spits :)

SQB 04-10-2011 10:38 AM

Brilliant, the no ssao takes the fps up to 15 from 6 over london, but horrible stutters.
No mipmaps take it all the way to 45! NO STUTTERS!!!!! :grin:

sveri 04-10-2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG14_Jagr (Post 258755)
Now, once that is done, download the lotex and the noSSAO mod folders and put those folders where they tell you (the maid IL2 COD Directory steam/steamapps etc.)

Maybe you could provide a download link please? I didnt manage to find that mods.

Thanks
Sven

Fuchs 04-10-2011 10:50 AM

Maybe you could take a look over the first post :D

sveri 04-10-2011 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuchs (Post 258994)
Maybe you could take a look over the first post :D

Hups, my fault, i just came to this thread by a link, which linked to the second page and a quote, thanks for the hint :D

F16_Neo 04-10-2011 11:08 AM

Works here! Stutter problem GONE with the mipmaps! Textures are a bit weird now, but at least it's playable.
1C now will have to troubleshoot what Kegetys put the finger on. :)

David198502 04-10-2011 11:17 AM

back again after some more testing.i have to say it again.its a miracle-mod!!
before the mod i had my resolution set to the lowest settings,because otherwise my fps dropped dramatically.now i set it to the highest.
before the mod,i had trees set down to the second lowest.now i set it to maximum.
before the mod, i had landscape detail and landshading on middle setting, now on high.

with the improve of settings, i still get the same or even better fps and less stutters than before that mod.
and in my opinion the textures didnt change at all.at least its my impression.but maybe i dont recognize any difference because im too exited right now.

Tbag 04-10-2011 11:42 AM

Great improvement for me, can fly the tiger moth over england nearly without stutters. Texture mod and nominimaps gave the most noticable improvement. Thanks Kegetys!

1920x1200
Intel Core i5 2500K 3.30GHz @ 4.40GHz Sandybridge CPU
Asus P8P67 PRO Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard
Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel
ENGTX 285 1gb
Win 7 professional 64bit

Steuben 04-10-2011 11:44 AM

Is it only me or isnt this very emberassing for 1 C? I mean come on!!! They are releasing a patch wich is not really fixing the performance issues this game has and then comes a skilled Programmer from Finland which does a much better job on his own? :evil:

pupo162 04-10-2011 12:10 PM

STEUBORN. this is no embarresement to 1C. unless they play fool and not use this to its favour. to be honest, this gmae needs a lot of help. and if some guy from finland contribuited htis much it should be used.

its a good mod. i still have stutters, but FPS is good now: good as in GOOD. shame for the FOV changer. it works , but its not comaptible with multiple views in game( eg, close medium, far away) and its not compatible with clickable cockpits.

BigPickle 04-10-2011 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jt_medina (Post 258646)

I knew it, this game uses the arma 2 engine, thought I'd spotted that res'in in and out before.

Foo'bar 04-10-2011 12:16 PM

It doesn't matter who. But is does matter what.

Koyan 04-10-2011 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IbanezLaney (Post 258897)
I just played around a bit with the nossao, lowtex and nomipmaps options and noticed I get the highest fps with only -mod=nossao enabled and the other 2 not running.

Anyone else tried this and find the same thing happening?


Yes, same for me. I found that i would have even lower fps with the kegetys.dll enabled than without. I now have only -mod=nossao enabled.

Nazgul-9 04-10-2011 12:44 PM

Awesome!!!
 
:):)

Tremendous improvement!!!

I Salute you sir!!
07

Regards

furbs 04-10-2011 12:48 PM

Sticky??

JG5_emil 04-10-2011 12:54 PM

Staggering improvement. This man deserves a medal!

I found that things actually got smoother the more I increased the level of detail. Everything is now set to high/very high with grass and roads on. I left shadows off as they flicker and reduce fps and also building amount is on low. Game rund like a dream except London which is playable but stutters a bit. Resolution is 1280x720

Fantastic!

seaeye 04-10-2011 12:57 PM

Ok, everything runs well apart from the mipmap mod. I can start over water, but when the game tries to load a land mipmap it crashes the launcher.exe. I noticed a preivois poster had the same problem. Is there something I've got to set up in my GPU settings to use this mod? Phenom X4 965 BE 3.8GHz, 8Gb DDR3 1600 RAM, ASUS 6870 DirectCU, Win7 64 Prof.

furbs 04-10-2011 01:02 PM

Now if they get SLI/crossfire and muti-core working, then we are really getting somewhere.

Lets hope the devs make this mod a option in the video settings menu.

LcSummers 04-10-2011 01:05 PM

STEP by STEP
 
Hi,

can someone make a step by step install please? I am no native speaker, reading on simhq too, its hard to understand. :(

Thanks for any help!!

Ltbear 04-10-2011 01:06 PM

Looking forward to se if it runs on my ancient system lmao

cre8tive Delay 04-10-2011 01:18 PM

This is awsome!
Thank you very much :)

5./JG27 Lehmann 04-10-2011 01:34 PM

Very hit and miss for me -

Performance is GREATLY improved, but at the expense of seemingly-random crashes while loading games =/

Great start though!

Also hi@kegetys if you read this forum, I remember your awesome work from the golden days of OFP :)

Insuber 04-10-2011 01:38 PM

Miracle mod! Passed from low 20's to ~50 fps in my test mission ... I was able to increase the res from 1200*768 to 1600*1024, and still keep ~30 fps ... GREAT KEGETYS, you are a genius!

reldnisch 04-10-2011 01:42 PM

It works really fine! ~20 fps growth
Thank you very much, Kegetys!

S!

Karppa 04-10-2011 01:55 PM

Excellent mod!

I get best improvement by using all 3 together. Individually only 5-10% increase in average fps but with all 3 at once it's about 40%!

Only downside is that the launcher sometimes crashes now.

Tvrdi 04-10-2011 02:01 PM

they need to hire ppl from the community so this game can become playable...at least on new systems

Damixu 04-10-2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LcSummers (Post 259091)
Hi,

can someone make a step by step install please? I am no native speaker, reading on simhq too, its hard to understand. :(

Thanks for any help!!

1) Download SFS mod tool from: http://www.kegetys.net/misc/

2) Copy 'kegetys.dll' to your IL2:CoD steam folder (mine is: "E:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover")
3) edit file "Launcher.exe.config" with Notepad and add bolded lines:

<applicationSettings>
<maddox.Properties.Settings>
<setting name="nativeDLL" serializeAs="String">
<value>parts\core\steam_api.dll</value>
</setting>
<setting name="nativeDLL" serializeAs="String">
<value>kegetys.dll</value>
</setting>

</maddox.Properties.Settings>
</applicationSettings>
...

4) Download low resolution textures mod "lowtex.7z": from: http://junk.kegetys.net/xzy/lowtex.7z

5) Open "lowtex.7z" (you need free 7z unpacker for this - found googling the internet) and unpack lowtex folder to your IL2COD Steam folder (look above). It will show as "lowtex" subfolder under the IL2COD main folder.

6) Download mod disabling the SSAO effect: http://junk.kegetys.net/nossao_mod.zip

7) Open "nossao_mod.zip" and unpack it to IL2COD folder - It will show as "nossao" subfolder like the "lowtex" on item 5)

8.) Download No mipmaps mod: http://junk.kegetys.net/nomipmaps_mod.zip

9) Open "nomipmaps_mod.zip" and unpack it to IL2COD steam folder. It will show as "nomipmaps" subfolder under the IL2COD main folder.

10) Create new shortcut to you desktop to IL2COD launcher by locating "launcher.exe" from IL2COD steam folder and use mouse right-click popup menu and select there "Send to > Create Desktop (create shortcut).

11) Right click new shotcut and select "Properties"

12) Pick tab "Shortcut" and enter to line "Target": "E:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\Launcher.exe" -mod=nossao -mod lowtex -mod=nomipmaps If you like to enable all three mods. You can remove any of -mod=(something) if you don't want to enable it.

13) Start Steam
14) Start IL2COD with your newly created desktop shortcut.


NOTES:
There is also possibility to run mods directly from Steam by entering those starting parameters somewhere to steam (can't remember exactly how). Then you don't have to do items 10 - 14.

You can add also "-disablecomposition" launch parameter to shortcut with to disable Windows Aero UI to free some resources.

"-mod=nomipmaps" launcher parameter makes buildings looking ugly and grainy but helps FPS a lot. Other two mods doesn't reduce overall visual glory in any visible way.

If you like nice smooth looking building (but way lower FPS) you might want to remove this "-mod=nomipmaps".

I had to start the game 2-3 again due having" Launcher.exe error" during startup of a mission having enabled nomipmaps mod but just restarting the game 2 times corrected the issue without anyting other special to do.


I hope this helps you....

Doc_uk 04-10-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doghous3 (Post 258959)
YOu need to d/l not only the kegetys file, but d/l the nasao and lowtex zips.

the zips you extract to the install directory so you have two new folders nassao and lowtex.

I'm sure the guide was straight forward.

Goto steam library, right-click CoD and select properties, select "set launce options" and write -mod=nossao -mod=lowtex.

Do you mean right click Launcher, if so, when i right click there is no set launch options

Flanker35M 04-10-2011 02:13 PM

S!

Doc, easiest to set the parameters is to open Steam -> Library -> Right click IL-2 Cliffs of Dover -> Properties. There in General is a box Set Launch options. Just paste the -mod=nossao there and press OK. If want all three, then just add them there and good to go.

Avala 04-10-2011 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SacaSoh (Post 258809)
The textures in the game are "too big", that's the problem... the solution is not to reduce your resolution, but to reduce the texture sizes. Reducing the texture resolution will lower the overall image quality just a bit, on the other side, reducing your resolution will have a big impact in your IQ (worse if you use a LCD screen).

With the mod (lowtex and nossao) fix i've gained 25fps and less stutters, without any noticeable decrease in IQ.

Lowering resolution really was good solution so far, as Oldschool said. But, with some tweaking and tuning the textures maybe we didn't have to do that, which would be very good.

Anyway, I have the same problem as Doc_uk, I REALY dont understand what to do.

How I do this: "-Finally use -mod=nossao commandline parameter to
enable the mod for launcher.exe."?

Trumper 04-10-2011 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldschool61 (Post 258807)
I believe by lowering your screen resolution it automatically reduced texture res. Correct me if im wrong. Ive been telling people to lower there resolution for days to get better fps but most people here are either to ignorant , stubborn or too stupid too try it.

I am sorry but i didn't realise we would need a degree in computers to get this game playable in the first place.Why is it up to those volunteers to sort this out.
I hope if and when i get round to buying this sim they will include a computer guru that you can plug in and it will do the work for you :rolleyes:

LcSummers 04-10-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damixu (Post 259120)
1) Download SFS mod tool from: http://www.kegetys.net/misc/

2) Copy 'kegetys.dll' to your IL2:CoD steam folder (mine is: "E:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover")
3) edit file "Launcher.exe.config" with Notepad and add bolded lines:

<applicationSettings>
<maddox.Properties.Settings>
<setting name="nativeDLL" serializeAs="String">
<value>parts\core\steam_api.dll</value>
</setting>
<setting name="nativeDLL" serializeAs="String">
<value>kegetys.dll</value>
</setting>

</maddox.Properties.Settings>
</applicationSettings>
...

4) Download low resolution textures mod "lowtex.7z": from: http://junk.kegetys.net/xzy/lowtex.7z

5) Open "lowtex.7z" (you need free 7z unpacker for this - found googling the internet) and unpack lowtex folder to your IL2COD Steam folder (look above). It will show as "lowtex" subfolder under the IL2COD main folder.

6) Download mod disabling the SSAO effect: http://junk.kegetys.net/nossao_mod.zip

7) Open "nossao_mod.zip" and unpack it to IL2COD folder - It will show as "nossao" subfolder like the "lowtex" on item 5)

8.) Download No mipmaps mod: http://junk.kegetys.net/nomipmaps_mod.zip

9) Open "nomipmaps_mod.zip" and unpack it to IL2COD steam folder. It will show as "nomipmaps" subfolder under the IL2COD main folder.

10) Create new shortcut to you desktop to IL2COD launcher by locating "launcher.exe" from IL2COD steam folder and use mouse right-clip popoup menu and select there "Send to > Create Desktop (create shortcut).

11) Right click new shotcut and select "Properties"

12) Pick tab "Shortcut" and enter to line "Target": "E:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\Launcher.exe" -mod=nossao -mod lowtex -mod=nomipmaps If you like to enable all three mods. You can remove any of -mod=(something) if you don't want to enable it.

13) Start Steam
14) Start IL2COD with your newly created desktop shortcut.



There is also possibility to run mods directly from Steam by entering those starting parameters somewhere to steam (can't remember exactly how). Then you don't have to do items 10 - 14.

You can add also "-disablecomposition" launch parameter to shortcut with to disable Windows Aero UI to free some resources.

I hope this helps you....



HIGH DAMIXU,

thank you very much, sure this helps, thank you, you re great man:grin:

Best regards

LC

Trumper 04-10-2011 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steuben (Post 259026)
Is it only me or isnt this very emberassing for 1 C? I mean come on!!! They are releasing a patch wich is not really fixing the performance issues this game has and then comes a skilled Programmer from Finland which does a much better job on his own? :evil:

This will be interesting to see which way the "official" developers take this.Will they see it as help or will they think their toes have been trodden on and batten down the hatches and ignore it.
If it goes completely wrong they could say the game has been cracked or modded illegally in some way.

Damixu 04-10-2011 02:25 PM

"-mod=nomipmaps" launcher parameter makes buildings looking ugly and grainy but helps FPS a lot.

If you like nice smooth looking building (but way lower FPS) you might want to remove this "-mod=nomipmaps".

rivalsavages 04-10-2011 02:34 PM

Hare Brained Stunts
 
Well after these mods (not the mip map though) I was able to fly between Tower Bridge's towers one way, then fly back under the same bridge's Road the other way.

Until these mods there was no way I could have done this. I now need to have a lie down in a darkened room :grin:

Avala 04-10-2011 02:34 PM

I found it. It was just need to read the readme to the end :P

DayGlow 04-10-2011 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumper (Post 259140)
I am sorry but i didn't realise we would need a degree in computers to get this game playable in the first place.Why is it up to those volunteers to sort this out.
I hope if and when i get round to buying this sim they will include a computer guru that you can plug in and it will do the work for you :rolleyes:

Lowering your rez has been the best way to improve fps in any game since they started making them in resolutions higher than VGA.

Buzzer 04-10-2011 03:05 PM

Good work!

Stuck at work now, so cannot test it.
But shows the game can get way smoother without too much degration of graphics. Hope 1C will implement this/similar as an official patch.

Everything looked so sullen (ie bad fps+stuttering) just a few days ago.
The last patch and this have really made the future for CoD look so much better imho. A totally different game from the 31st.

Will this cause any problems with online servers? Campatibility probs etc?
Not that there are so many servers online yet...

Damixu 04-10-2011 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzzer (Post 259163)
Good work!

Stuck at work now, so cannot test it.
But shows the game can get way smoother without too much degration of graphics. Hope 1C will implement this/similar as an official patch.

Everything looked so sullen (ie bad fps+stuttering) just a few days ago.
The last patch and this have really made the future for CoD look so much better imho. A totally different game from the 31st.

Will this cause any problems with online servers? Campatibility probs etc?
Not that there are so many servers online yet...

I've got Tsunami level improvement of playability (from very bad FPS and heavy stuttering on low/very low level settings to fluent FPS and almost no stutter using VERY HIGH setting on all) using Kege's mods.

edit: i7 920 @ 3.5Ghz, 6GB DDR3 ~1300Mhz, GTX280 1GB VRAM, SB X-FI Fatal1ty FPS, SSD Win7 x64 ultimate, game on other HDD, resolution: 1680x1050, settings all: Very high/High, no AA.

Schelle 04-10-2011 03:32 PM

wow very nice job man
my fps jumped from 5 to 20 and no stutter
(over water with 12 aircraft)

but there's one problem
i see no muzzleflashes from guns and no fire
although i see the bullet casing falling out of the wing when firing

im running a 8600GT and had to change render settings to D3D9 manually in the conf-file otherwise they game refuses to start

any1 know how to fix that?
this done and i am happy so far

Damixu 04-10-2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schelle (Post 259178)
wow very nice job man
my fps jumped from 5 to 20 and no stutter
(over water with 12 aircraft)

but there's one problem
i see no muzzleflashes from guns and no fire
although i see the bullet casing falling out of the wing when firing

im running a 8600GT and had to change render settings to D3D9 manually in the conf-file otherwise they game refuses to start

any1 know how to fix that?
this done and i am happy so far

I also lose sometimes muzzle flashes and/or tracers. The all individual sounds come and goes whenever they pleases. The sound engine is still very much work-in-progress.

Rattlehead 04-10-2011 03:40 PM

Incredible!

I got an instant 20 frames per second increase over land. :)

Someone hire this guy.

AwM 04-10-2011 03:54 PM

I can confirm the mod gave me a huge performance boost. I can play on C2D 8400 (2x3ghz), radeon hd 4670 and 2.5gb of ram without any stutters. It's getting slower when I get close to the land, but at least I can fight on higher attitude with shadows turned on and models detail on high.

Gourmand 04-10-2011 03:59 PM

magic !
dev should include this to their patch...
now i can tell it : i can play to cliff of dover !
thanks for this mod !!!

FAW_FoX 04-10-2011 04:03 PM

Hello,
I've followed the step by step install, the -dump creates a _dump folder with things inside so i'm guessing that the kegetys.dll is working, but still, i've a "95% Launcher error" when trying to start a flight with -mod=nossao -mod=lowtex -mod=nomipmaps (the folders are present in my directory il2 cod).
(Didn't have before, of course).

Did I do something wrong ? Is there something to do in the graphical options menu ?

Thkx in advance.

3./JG51_Heiden 04-10-2011 04:04 PM

What do I do with the lowtex files? Do I make a folder and add the command line to the launcher just like the others, or do I need to drag and drop these files somewhere? Help please!

EDIT:

This is what my shortcut target looks like:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\Launcher.exe" -dump -mod=nossao -mod lowtex -mod=nomipmap

Is this correct to make all the mods work? And this is applied to the desktop shortcut, and not the actual launcher.exe in the directory, right?

Damixu 04-10-2011 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAW_FoX (Post 259215)
Hello,
I've followed the step by step install, the -dump creates a _dump folder with things inside so i'm guessing that the kegetys.dll is working, but still, i've a "95% Launcher error" when trying to start a flight with -mod=nossao -mod=lowtex -mod=nomipmaps (the folders are present in my directory il2 cod).
(Didn't have before, of course).

Did I do something wrong ? Is there something to do in the graphical options menu ?

Thkx in advance.

For me also I had to start the game two or three times again in order to get past from -mod=nomipmaps caused launcher.exe error...

I didn't do anything but just restarted 2-3 times again the game.

Flanker35M 04-10-2011 04:08 PM

S!

Read the readme people! Each of the mods have one! It clearly states what to do and where to add files/commands :) LowTex folder goes into the game folder an you add the "-mod=lowtex" (without quotes) to the launch parameters of the Launcher.exe :)

Damixu 04-10-2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 259227)
S!

Read the readme people! Each of the mods have one! It clearly states what to do and where to add files/commands :) LowTex folder goes into the game folder an you add the "-mod=lowtex" (without quotes) to the launch parameters of the Launcher.exe :)

I took a liberty of quoting myself from 2 pages back to show step-by-step installation instructions:

Quote:

1) Download SFS mod tool from: http://www.kegetys.net/misc/

2) Copy 'kegetys.dll' to your IL2:CoD steam folder (mine is: "E:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover")
3) edit file "Launcher.exe.config" with Notepad and add bolded lines:

<applicationSettings>
<maddox.Properties.Settings>
<setting name="nativeDLL" serializeAs="String">
<value>parts\core\steam_api.dll</value>
</setting>
<setting name="nativeDLL" serializeAs="String">
<value>kegetys.dll</value>
</setting>

</maddox.Properties.Settings>
</applicationSettings>
...

4) Download low resolution textures mod "lowtex.7z": from: http://junk.kegetys.net/xzy/lowtex.7z

5) Open "lowtex.7z" (you need free 7z unpacker for this - found googling the internet) and unpack lowtex folder to your IL2COD Steam folder (look above). It will show as "lowtex" subfolder under the IL2COD main folder.

6) Download mod disabling the SSAO effect: http://junk.kegetys.net/nossao_mod.zip

7) Open "nossao_mod.zip" and unpack it to IL2COD folder - It will show as "nossao" subfolder like the "lowtex" on item 5)

8.) Download No mipmaps mod: http://junk.kegetys.net/nomipmaps_mod.zip

9) Open "nomipmaps_mod.zip" and unpack it to IL2COD steam folder. It will show as "nomipmaps" subfolder under the IL2COD main folder.

10) Create new shortcut to you desktop to IL2COD launcher by locating "launcher.exe" from IL2COD steam folder and use mouse right-click popup menu and select there "Send to > Create Desktop (create shortcut).

11) Right click new shotcut and select "Properties"

12) Pick tab "Shortcut" and enter to line "Target": "E:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\Launcher.exe" -mod=nossao -mod lowtex -mod=nomipmaps If you like to enable all three mods. You can remove any of -mod=(something) if you don't want to enable it.

13) Start Steam
14) Start IL2COD with your newly created desktop shortcut.


NOTES:
There is also possibility to run mods directly from Steam by entering those starting parameters somewhere to steam (can't remember exactly how). Then you don't have to do items 10 - 14.

You can add also "-disablecomposition" launch parameter to shortcut with to disable Windows Aero UI to free some resources.

"-mod=nomipmaps" launcher parameter makes buildings looking ugly and grainy but helps FPS a lot. Other two mods doesn't reduce overall visual glory in any visible way.

If you like nice smooth looking building (but way lower FPS) you might want to remove this "-mod=nomipmaps".

I had to start the game 2-3 again due having" Launcher.exe error" during startup of a mission having enabled nomipmaps mod but just restarting the game 2 times corrected the issue without anyting other special to do.


I hope this helps you....

FAW_FoX 04-10-2011 04:19 PM

Well, thanks, didn't see your note.
So, restarted the game, on the third restart it launched the mission, but unfortunately, no FPS gains... That's weird. Am I the first with no gains ?
(I run a custom mission 12v12 above the CHannel, medium clouds, config "pretty low":
i7 720QM
GTX260 270.51 Beta Nvidia drivers
4 Go DDRIII
7x64, All Aero desactivated
"smooth" 15-22 FPS,

Effets and models are "Medium", the rest if "Low", roads and grass desactivated, 1366*768
)


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