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Voyager 04-09-2011 03:15 AM

Do 17 finding
 
Saw this linked on Yahoo news:

Do-17 found on Floor of English Channel

Anyone heard anything more detailed about it?

JG14_Jagr 04-09-2011 04:16 AM

Can you imagine what is down there?

Rangi 04-09-2011 05:57 AM

That is the one i shot down last night

Chips86 04-09-2011 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rangi (Post 257828)
That is the one i shot down last night

You couldnt hit the side of the Bismarck. No, that was me. I ran out of ammo and chuted onto him, smashed his canopy and boot knifed him. True story.

Bungmiester 04-09-2011 10:04 AM

There has been a thread on this before some where I think on this Forum, apparently it was shot down in goodwinsands off Kent on August the 26th 1940, I have an article about it in an old flypast Mag i think they are going to try and raise it. There should be more info may be at www.rafmuseum.org

Fuchs 04-11-2011 04:23 PM

upside down i hope they can restore it :)
so i also hope that there is no rests* inside...

Avionsdeguerre 04-11-2011 04:35 PM

+1 Fuchs :)

Fusek 04-11-2011 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuchs (Post 260264)
upside down i hope they can restore it :)
so i also hope that there is no rests* inside...

Don't get your hopes up. I believe it is classified as a war grave, to not disturb the final resting place of the two crewmembers that failed to bail out.

Wutz 04-11-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fusek (Post 260319)
Don't get your hopes up. I believe it is classified as a war grave, to not disturb the final resting place of the two crewmembers that failed to bail out.

Might be, but where not cases already reported of sport divers collecting "souveniers" off that aircraft? That is the problem I see, too many know where that plane lies, and it will never come to peace again, unless raised, and the unfortunate inside properly buried.

Robotic Pope 04-11-2011 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuchs (Post 260264)
upside down i hope they can restore it :)
so i also hope that there is no rests* inside...

Plans are to conserve the plane and not restore it to original condiction, They say it would end up being just a replica if they fully restored it.

Its a museum piece and needs to be saved before treasure hunters pick it to pieces.

BBrus 04-11-2011 08:10 PM

Nazi airplane?

Didn't know airplanes had a political point of view.

Bobby109 04-11-2011 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBrus (Post 260466)
Nazi airplane?

Didn't know airplanes had a political point of view.

haha!!

That is so funny actually.
Do you ever hear them referring to american planes as a republican airplane (or democratic) lol

Lensman_1 04-11-2011 08:43 PM

A team of Ubisoft divers is down there scrubbing off the hakenkreuz as we speak ... ;)

Al Schlageter 04-11-2011 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fusek (Post 260319)
Don't get your hopes up. I believe it is classified as a war grave, to not disturb the final resting place of the two crewmembers that failed to bail out.

It is not a war grave as there is no remains in the a/c.

The Times newspaper article from August 2010:

"On that morning Do17Z, serial no 1160, was piloted by Feldwebel Willi Effmert, aged 24. With him in the cabin cockpit were its navigator Herman Ritzel, 21; wireless operator Helmut Reinhardt, 27; and bomb aimer Heinz Huhn, 21, whose job it would be to release the aircraft's 16 50kg bombs over one of the key fighter stations at either Debden or Hornchurch.

Huhn was never to get his chance. While flying above cloud over the Strait of Dover the Dornier became separated from the rest of 7 Staffel. Some time after 1pm it was flying on its own when it was jumped at 13,000ft over Deal by a Boulton Paul Defiant of 264 Squadron from RAF Hornchurch. A two-seat fighter with a four-gun power-operated turret, the Defiant had suffered severely from Messerschmitt Bf109s during the Battle of Britain. But it was more than a match for the Do17, in spite of the latter's six machine-guns With both his engines hit, and one out of action, Effmert put his aircraft into a shallow glide and made a wheels-up forced landing on the Goodwin Sands at low water. The aircraft appears to have "ground looped" just before final impact, landing on its back and killing Reinhardt and Huhn. Effmert and Ritzel survived to be captured, and spent the remainder of their war as PoWs in Canada."

Reinhardt & Huhn bodies were both recovered with Huhn's grave at Cannock Chase, whilst according to Chris Goss, Reinhardt is buried in Holland...

major_setback 04-11-2011 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Schlageter (Post 260508)
It is not a war grave as there is no remains in the a/c.

The Times newspaper article from August 2010:

"On that morning Do17Z, serial no 1160, was piloted by Feldwebel Willi Effmert, aged 24. With him in the cabin cockpit were its navigator Herman Ritzel, 21; wireless operator Helmut Reinhardt, 27; and bomb aimer Heinz Huhn, 21, whose job it would be to release the aircraft's 16 50kg bombs over one of the key fighter stations at either Debden or Hornchurch.

Huhn was never to get his chance. While flying above cloud over the Strait of Dover the Dornier became separated from the rest of 7 Staffel. Some time after 1pm it was flying on its own when it was jumped at 13,000ft over Deal by a Boulton Paul Defiant of 264 Squadron from RAF Hornchurch. A two-seat fighter with a four-gun power-operated turret, the Defiant had suffered severely from Messerschmitt Bf109s during the Battle of Britain. But it was more than a match for the Do17, in spite of the latter's six machine-guns With both his engines hit, and one out of action, Effmert put his aircraft into a shallow glide and made a wheels-up forced landing on the Goodwin Sands at low water. The aircraft appears to have "ground looped" just before final impact, landing on its back and killing Reinhardt and Huhn. Effmert and Ritzel survived to be captured, and spent the remainder of their war as PoWs in Canada."

Reinhardt & Huhn bodies were both recovered with Huhn's grave at Cannock Chase, whilst according to Chris Goss, Reinhardt is buried in Holland...

I wonder why Cannock Chase? It is in the middle of England (where I was born and brought up) and miles from the coast.

Al Schlageter 04-11-2011 11:42 PM

There was a German war dead cemetery there.


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