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76.IAP-Blackbird 04-05-2011 12:22 AM

SB-2 Cockpit Project (Check it out TD)
 
I`m very interested in this topic since I found it. Just check out this very good and talented modder!

It has now 13 pages of very good rendered pics, maybe this could be something for TD

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,5483.0.html
http://aviarestorer.ru/forum/attachm...4&d=1285441254
http://aviarestorer.ru/forum/attachm...1&d=1289513408
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...0&d=1297016915
http://aviarestorer.ru/forum/attachm...0&d=1299612148

SaQSoN 04-05-2011 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 76.IAP-Blackbird (Post 252311)
I`m very interested in this topic since I found it. Just check out this very good and talented modder!

It has now 13 pages of very good rendered pics, maybe this could be something for TD

Daidalos team members are in constant contact with this project authors for a long time now. We help them with guides, advises, some spare parts and reference material.

Fusek 04-05-2011 06:51 AM

Good to know! Amazing project.

Sita 04-05-2011 07:21 AM

what a Surprise!!! :D

76.IAP-Blackbird 04-05-2011 08:12 AM

Thank you for this great info ;)

Fafnir_6 04-05-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SaQSoN (Post 252380)
Daidalos team members are in constant contact with this project authors for a long time now. We help them with guides, advises, some spare parts and reference material.

Awesome! It's great to see the community working so well together. There can only be good results with this sort of co-operation.

Cheers and thanks for all the hard work,

Fafnir_6

LukeFF 04-06-2011 09:56 AM

Note: it was the SB, not the SB-2. ;)

Sita 04-06-2011 10:18 AM

in fact it is SB 2 m-100A)

which means SB with two engines m - 100 a

Grach 04-06-2011 01:13 PM

How different would the SB 2M-103 cockpits be?
Could this pit 'double up' as it were?

It'd be really cool to get an Ar-2 in game as well. Even just as AI... To round off the set. ;)

Sita 04-06-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Grach (Post 254168)
How different would the SB 2M-103 cockpits be?
Could this pit 'double up' as it were?

It'd be really cool to get an Ar-2 in game as well. Even just as AI... To round off the set. ;)

i think that there is a huge difference between м-103 and м 100 ...
but the first SB with engines m - 103 looks almost identical to m 100 ... i mean external model

maybe we'll think something about that
but do not promise)

Ar2 is not in our plans... sorry(

bf-110 04-06-2011 10:38 PM

Hands up. (not only thumbs)

Just need to improve the details quality.

harryRIEDL 04-06-2011 11:39 PM

first post by a lurker. Followed IL2 from launch and getting as many of the AI planes flyable from early days has always impressed me. The model looks great have you any idea when your completing it such as are you aiming for 4.11 or later.

Sita 04-07-2011 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by harryRIEDL (Post 254916)
first post by a lurker. Followed IL2 from launch and getting as many of the AI planes flyable from early days has always impressed me. The model looks great have you any idea when your completing it such as are you aiming for 4.11 or later.

we are not aiming to 4.11... model isn't ready yet( 4.12 or later... need so much to do with it

Sita 04-07-2011 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bf-110 (Post 254868)
Hands up. (not only thumbs)

Just need to improve the details quality.

what exactly do you mean?)
see our last renders on SAS or Sukhoi or Aviaskins.... work in progress... every detail reworking by several times ....
for the example, main frame in pilots cockpit we are reworking. somthing about 6 or 8 times...
and like this we do with every object in cockpit permanently improving them based on new data

harryRIEDL 04-07-2011 02:27 PM

Also looking at the gunners postion did the SB have a bomb sight because I don't see one

Sita 04-07-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by harryRIEDL (Post 255753)
Also looking at the gunners postion did the SB have a bomb sight because I don't see one

bomb sight was in the navigator cockpit, and it isn't ready yet
will be)

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 04-07-2011 03:48 PM

As a first impression of that work from DT, I can say, its in a very good state and much more improved as on the screenshots in this thread. ;-)

harryRIEDL 04-07-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sita (Post 255786)
bomb sight was in the navigator cockpit, and it isn't ready yet
will be)

thank you just curious as I know very little about the SB and know very little of its capabilities apart from its speed and the huge amount of causalities taken in the early stages of the german invasion (also a bit flammable as this makes it one of my favorite targets)

Sita 04-07-2011 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 255876)
As a first impression of that work from DT, I can say, its in a very good state and much more improved as on the screenshots in this thread. ;-)


thanks for kind words Caspar!!!
We are glad that you appreciated our work!
will continue working in the same spirit!)

and we will be proud if I caused an official patch, under your wing!)

Sita 04-07-2011 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by harryRIEDL (Post 255902)
also a bit flammable as its one of my favorite targets


Yes! This aircraft simply torch!)

Sita 04-07-2011 07:00 PM

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at now our "Katushka" looks like this...
for those who are too lazy to go to the links)

pilot...

Sita 04-07-2011 07:04 PM

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navigator...

Sita 04-07-2011 07:08 PM

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rear gunner...

Romanator21 04-07-2011 10:08 PM

Very nice!:grin:

bf-110 04-08-2011 04:55 AM

BTW,anyone working on DB-3?

Romanator21 04-08-2011 06:52 AM

DB-3 is just another designation of the Il-4 (basically A DB-3F with uprated engines). An early DB-3 however is pretty different (not in shape, but in internal components and structures, so making cockpits would likely require work from scratch. I don't see it happening anytime soon unfortunately.

Sita 04-08-2011 06:57 AM

No DB-3 completely different plane ...
documentation and information on it is almost no ...
he is a close relative for Il4, but even from him he is very different

Sita 04-10-2011 07:50 AM

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something new...

Romanator21 04-10-2011 09:40 AM

Looks nice :) What is the red object?

Sita 04-10-2011 08:06 PM

its ammo box)... will be ammo box

LukeFF 04-12-2011 09:47 AM

I'm as impressed with the fact that you guys found sufficient references to model the interior of this plane, considering most of them were hacked from the sky by the Germans in 1941. :)

Was the example on display at Monino any help in modeling this?

Sita 04-14-2011 07:17 AM

i'm not sure that i understand you right)
but about Monino i can say, that we a made a trip to it, something about year ago...
with couple fotocameras and rulers...
representatives of the museum we are warmly welcomed and allowed to touch and take pictures of our SB!
That's really helped us)

BIG Thanks to guys from of society Aviarestorer

aviarestorer.ru --- look at they)

bf-110 04-15-2011 10:29 PM

Monino is awesome!Is a shrine for flyboys.Want to go there once in my life.

BTW,nobody knows the DB-3 cockpit? (not IL-4,the DB-3M)

Sita 04-16-2011 08:20 AM

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Yes! it is worth visiting)

and very little information about DB-3 cockpit ...

LukeFF 04-16-2011 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sita (Post 262500)
i'm not sure that i understand you right)

What I meant is that, even though so many were destroyed by the Germans in 1941, it is good to see that there are sufficient references to model the interior.

Quote:

but about Monino i can say, that we a made a trip to it, something about year ago...
with couple fotocameras and rulers...
representatives of the museum we are warmly welcomed and allowed to touch and take pictures of our SB!
That's really helped us)
Cool!

Sita 05-06-2011 07:31 PM

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up...

Romanator21 05-07-2011 04:30 AM

Looks really good! :D

Sita 05-10-2011 07:36 AM

up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=E9P72-n0wDw

Romanator21 05-10-2011 08:24 AM

Ah! You forgot the instrument panel ;)

I forgot whether or not I read it on the SAS page, but are you, or anyone else, working on an FM for this plane?

Looks like you're almost done! Good work!

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 05-10-2011 09:13 AM

Very nice!

Sita 05-10-2011 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Romanator21 (Post 281136)
Ah! You forgot the instrument panel ;)

I forgot whether or not I read it on the SAS page, but are you, or anyone else, working on an FM for this plane?

Looks like you're almost done! Good work!

Yes, equipment left in another jacket :D!

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Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 281152)
Very nice!

Thank you! We very much appreciate your estimate of our work!)

Sita 05-11-2011 03:10 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ntWD...layer_embedded

another video)

TedStryker 05-13-2011 12:44 PM

Quality work guys. Can't wait to fly this beauty over China.....

Thanks for all your efforts in bringing us this new flyable

Ted

Sita 05-13-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TedStryker (Post 282610)
Quality work guys. Can't wait to fly this beauty over China.....

Thanks for all your efforts in bringing us this new flyable

Ted

as well over Finland and over Spain!!!)

Sita 06-17-2011 07:54 PM

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small update...

Romanator21 06-17-2011 09:31 PM

:grin: You've crammed in a lot of detail, very nice!

Sita 07-24-2011 07:02 PM

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some little changes...

Romanator21 07-24-2011 08:40 PM

Krasota! :cool: Beautiful :)

Sita 07-25-2011 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Romanator21 (Post 314163)
Krasota! :cool:

Nice!)))
мило)

IceFire 08-07-2011 12:22 AM

Just curious how you folks are doing with this. Any more tasty pictures or updates?

Not sure if this has been asked before but are there any external updates to the model planned or is the current model sufficient?

Sita 08-07-2011 08:01 AM

we are working hard, but slowly)
new delicious pictures appear every week ( or almost every week) in this topic http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...e=12&p=1665145
will update here more often
simply did not think that there is too much interested in the Soviet "High-Speed" bomber)

to rework of the external model we didnt have the skills ... but would love to make some changes ...
such as new external bomb racks or other models of propellers

may by somebody will help to us...

Sita 08-07-2011 08:04 AM

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some new cosmetic changes...

Sita 08-07-2011 07:34 PM

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as I promised...

IceFire 08-08-2011 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sita (Post 320736)
we are working hard, but slowly)
new delicious pictures appear every week ( or almost every week) in this topic http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...e=12&p=1665145
will update here more often
simply did not think that there is too much interested in the Soviet "High-Speed" bomber)

to rework of the external model we didnt have the skills ... but would love to make some changes ...
such as new external bomb racks or other models of propellers

may by somebody will help to us...

Almost any aircraft is interesting. Having another bomber, particularly a unique and early war bomber, is of great interest!

secretone 08-08-2011 03:41 AM

Thanks for the update.

|450|Leady 08-08-2011 06:49 AM

Looking great!

I'm looking forward to flying this bird :)

Cheers

Leady

Sita 08-16-2011 05:46 PM

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up...

Sita 10-16-2011 08:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHTRZPkMaDg

up)

Romanator21 10-16-2011 08:21 PM

Awesome, I can't wait!

ADorante 10-16-2011 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sita (Post 320736)
we are working hard, but slowly)
new delicious pictures appear every week ( or almost every week) in this topic http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...e=12&p=1665145
will update here more often
simply did not think that there is too much interested in the Soviet "High-Speed" bomber)

Thank you very much for your work.

I have to admit that although I am a fan of Oleg's work since Il-2 Sturmovik's first demo, I didn't know much about World War II aviation before. And even today if you give me a new aircraft which served historically in a certain time and area, I wouldn't know about it and couldn't set up a proper mission that is historical correct, I only would get to the part that is entertaining me. Naturally, since I haven't read much or learned nothing elsewhere before.

I first encountered the SB-2 in Sturmovik in the finnish B-239 single player mission. Easy targets in the N1 mission without fighter protection. The mission shed a tiny speck of light on the war of Finland against the Soviet Union, while the flying was easy enough. The next mission was tougher and I learned more about the B-239 and the mission's background. So you can say that Il-2 Sturmovik in itself is a learning tool, if mission designers (and the rest of the accessed community) shared their wisdom and are wilfully absorbed.

Having that said, I'm very interested in seeing the SB-2 added to the flying roster. And I wish for some experts (read: the SB-2 team itself or their supporters, because they know the aircraft best -) design a few missons with the release of the SB-2. That way we could start to fly like we should. I for myself would like see for example a single player mission in the Baltic theater of operations, but with with a higher guarantee of success than described above.

Please?

Sita 10-17-2011 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ADorante (Post 349967)
I wish for some experts (read: the SB-2 team itself or their supporters, because they know the aircraft best -) design a few missons with the release of the SB-2. That way we could start to fly like we should.

Please?

we will think about it)

ADorante 10-17-2011 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sita (Post 350037)
we will think about it)

That's all I could ask of you. Thanks! :) :thumbsup:

Tempest123 10-17-2011 02:25 PM

Wow this is awesome, so many Russian bombers being worked on. My next campaign will def. be a bomber one. Cockpit looks great


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