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Dores 03-31-2011 09:20 PM

The "use at your own risk" dynamic weather?
 
I think I remember Luthier saying something about the dynamic weather system being included in the full mission builder, as a "use at your own risk" feature, because it would cripple most systems. Did it get included? Have anyone tried it? Or perhaps more relevat - are there systems out there that will be able to handle it with the current performance?

scorpac 03-31-2011 09:24 PM

its definatly in the FMB, but i didnt use it

Dores 03-31-2011 09:26 PM

Then someone with epic specs should try it out immediately!

Oktoberfest 03-31-2011 09:33 PM

This should do it : http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/Images/...a_computer.jpg

ATAG_Doc 03-31-2011 09:54 PM

What does this forum consider "epic specs" in order to use this?

Raggz 03-31-2011 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oktoberfest (Post 247307)

The biggest calculator in the world :P
Wonder how Pac Man would run on that :D

SlipBall 03-31-2011 10:10 PM

As soon as I can get the game I'm gonna try the weather. All it could do is crash the game, I don't expect an explosion or fire:-P

seiseki 03-31-2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 247355)
As soon as I can get the game I'm gonna try the weather. All it could do is crash the game, I don't expect an explosion or fire:-P

Famous last words... :grin:

TheGrunch 03-31-2011 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timej31 (Post 247337)
What does this forum consider "epic specs" in order to use this?

Someone with about 8 gigs of graphics memory on a single card probably. :-P

FlyingBollock 04-02-2011 09:21 PM

How/where do you turn this feature on?

Hecke 04-02-2011 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oktoberfest (Post 247307)


The game would even lagg on this pc due to the bad optimizing.

TheGrunch 04-02-2011 09:51 PM

I tried creating some weather in FMB but all I succeeded in doing was breaking the Object Viewer when I clicked the 'Dynamic' checkbox. The viewer stopped responding and even when i closed it and opened it again it had the word 'Participations' stuck on it and I couldn't click anything. :confused:

Ailantd 04-02-2011 10:51 PM

where is the FMB ??

TheGrunch 04-02-2011 10:53 PM

In Extras in the main menu.

hc_wolf 04-02-2011 10:56 PM

Weather control
 
ok here is a way you can use or see some of the aspects of dynamic weather and tweak it. I got these out of a collection of the quick missions and put it into one. Explains why some quick missions lag more than others cause come have weather aspects turned on in them.

Your mission files are in your steam folders here

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\parts\bob\mission\Quick

there are other mission folders also.


So below has lots of weather. But you can try with and with-out and see howit tax's your PC.


i adjusted my 001 - Free Flight - Channel.mis to look like this.

[PARTS]
core.100
bob.100
[MAIN]
MAP Land$English_Channel_1940
BattleArea 25000 10000 300000 300000 50000
TIME 9
WeatherIndex 2
CloudsHeight 1500
BreezeActivity 10
ThermalActivity 10
player BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.210
[GlobalWind_0]
Power 3.985 0.174 0.000
BottomBound 0.00
TopBound 1500.00
GustPower 5
GustAngle 45
[splines]
[AirGroups]
BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.22
[BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.22]
Flight1 P
Class Aircraft.SpitfireMkIIa
Formation VIC3
CallSign 1
Fuel 25
Weapons 1
Skill 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3
Aging 0
Briefing 2
Serial10 P7370
[BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.22_Way]
NORMFLY 126720.00 125952.00 2000.00 400.00
NORMFLY 200640.00 145536.00 2000.00 400.00
NORMFLY 236698.40 182976.00 2000.00 400.00
LANDING 224640.00 227328.00 500.00 300.00
[CustomChiefs]
[Stationary]
[Buildings]
[BuildingsLinks]

SlipBall 04-02-2011 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hc_wolf (Post 250179)
ok here is a way you can use or see some of the aspects of dynamic weather and tweak it. I got these out of a collection of the quick missions and put it into one. Explains why some quick missions lag more than others cause come have weather aspects turned on in them.

Your mission files are in your steam folders here

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\parts\bob\mission\Quick

there are other mission folders also.


So below has lots of weather. But you can try with and with-out and see howit tax's your PC.


i adjusted my 001 - Free Flight - Channel.mis to look like this.

[PARTS]
core.100
bob.100
[MAIN]
MAP Land$English_Channel_1940
BattleArea 25000 10000 300000 300000 50000
TIME 9
WeatherIndex 2
CloudsHeight 1500
BreezeActivity 10
ThermalActivity 10
player BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.210
[GlobalWind_0]
Power 3.985 0.174 0.000
BottomBound 0.00
TopBound 1500.00
GustPower 5
GustAngle 45
[splines]
[AirGroups]
BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.22
[BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.22]
Flight1 P
Class Aircraft.SpitfireMkIIa
Formation VIC3
CallSign 1
Fuel 25
Weapons 1
Skill 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.3
Aging 0
Briefing 2
Serial10 P7370
[BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.22_Way]
NORMFLY 126720.00 125952.00 2000.00 400.00
NORMFLY 200640.00 145536.00 2000.00 400.00
NORMFLY 236698.40 182976.00 2000.00 400.00
LANDING 224640.00 227328.00 500.00 300.00
[CustomChiefs]
[Stationary]
[Buildings]
[BuildingsLinks]


cool...Are you able to set a wind direction?

hc_wolf 04-02-2011 11:47 PM

storms
 
save this in your quick missions file

ok full storm clouds and strong winds

[PARTS]
core.100
bob.100
[MAIN]
MAP Land$English_Channel_1940
BattleArea 25000 10000 300000 300000 50000
TIME 9
WeatherIndex 2
CloudsHeight 1500
BreezeActivity 10
ThermalActivity 10
player BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.210
[GlobalWind_0]
Power 3.986 0.174 0.000
BottomBound 0.00
TopBound 1500.00
GustPower 8
GustAngle 44
[splines]
[AirGroups]
BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.22
[BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.22]
Flight1 W
Class Aircraft.SpitfireMkIIa
Formation VIC3
CallSign 1
Fuel 25
Weapons 1
Skill 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7
Aging 86
Briefing 2
Serial10 WOLF
BandColor10 0.92 0.72 0.15 0.80 0.80 0.80 0.15 0.15 0.15
[BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.22_Way]
NORMFLY 126720.00 125952.00 2000.00 400.00
NORMFLY 200640.00 145536.00 2000.00 400.00
NORMFLY 236698.40 182976.00 2000.00 400.00
LANDING 224640.00 227328.00 500.00 300.00
[CustomChiefs]
[Stationary]
[Buildings]
[BuildingsLinks]
[WeatherFront]
LocalWeather_7 THUNDER_GEN 2000 6000 133940.86 128270.94 1000 40
[LocalWeather_7]
EllipticA 64000
EllipticB 48000
RotAngle 0
ShiftX 0
ShiftY 0
BaseHeight 700
IsRain 1
IsDynamicEnabled 1
ParticipType 1
DropSize 0
RainPower 0
FrontThickness 3500
FrontWindMaxHorSpeedNear 15
FrontWindMaxVertSpeedUp 30
FrontWindMaxVertSpeedDown 20
FrontWindMaxTurbInClouds 15
FrontWindMaxTurbInSquallZone 20
EvenLayers 5
TotalLayers 15
IsThunder True

hc_wolf 04-02-2011 11:50 PM

yes you can change angle either in the gust angle in the file ro in FMB click on the clour ico and use your keypad to rotate to the angle you want.

lol THE PERFECT SSTORM

hc_wolf 04-03-2011 12:25 AM

Test your system
 
OK so after some tweaking. Here is a big storm to fly around in. If you fly in there to long. Your canopy ices up and you can not see anything till you drop to 300 meters and the ice melts.

here is the mission file.

[PARTS]
core.100
bob.100
[MAIN]
MAP Land$English_Channel_1940
BattleArea 25000 10000 300000 300000 50000
TIME 9
WeatherIndex 2
CloudsHeight 1500
BreezeActivity 10
ThermalActivity 10
player BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.211
[GlobalWind_0]
Power 3.986 0.174 0.000
BottomBound 0.00
TopBound 1500.00
GustPower 8
GustAngle 44
[splines]
[AirGroups]
BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.22
[BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.22]
Flight1 W 12
Class Aircraft.HurricaneMkI
Formation VIC3
CallSign 1
Fuel 25
Weapons 1
Skill 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7
Aging10 85
Aging11 73
Briefing 2
Person10_0 1 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 wolf
Person11_0 0 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.7 PARA
Serial10 WOLF
BandColor11 0.92 0.72 0.15 0.80 0.80 0.80 0.15 0.15 0.15
[BoB_RAF_F_610Sqn_Early.22_Way]
NORMFLY 126720.00 125952.00 2000.00 400.00
NORMFLY 200640.00 145536.00 2000.00 400.00
NORMFLY 236698.40 182976.00 2000.00 400.00
LANDING 224640.00 227328.00 500.00 300.00
[CustomChiefs]
[Stationary]
[Buildings]
[BuildingsLinks]
[WeatherFront]
LocalWeather_7 THUNDER_GEN 5000 16000 133940.86 128270.94 1000 40
[LocalWeather_7]
EllipticA 5000
EllipticB 16000
RotAngle 45
ShiftX 0
ShiftY 0
BaseHeight 700
IsRain 1
IsDynamicEnabled 1
ParticipType 1
DropSize 2
RainPower 2
FrontThickness 5500
FrontWindMaxHorSpeedNear 15
FrontWindMaxVertSpeedUp 30
FrontWindMaxVertSpeedDown 20
FrontWindMaxTurbInClouds 15
FrontWindMaxTurbInSquallZone 20
EvenLayers 5
TotalLayers 15
IsThunder True

Meusli 04-03-2011 12:54 AM

What sort of fps are you getting with this and the normal game?

hc_wolf 04-03-2011 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meusli (Post 250286)
What sort of fps are you getting with this and the normal game?

In this mission with heavy weather settins i am getting 25fps for first 30 seconds. Then once all setteled I am getting around 35fps

win7 64bit
i7 2600k
16gig ram
asus p8p67 evo -v3
285gtx

normal missions i have 40-70fps with no or light cloud. Forget going over land for now. wait till patch

Meusli 04-03-2011 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hc_wolf (Post 250383)
In this mission with heavy weather settins i am getting 25fps for first 30 seconds. Then once all setteled I am getting around 35fps

win7 64bit
i7 2600k
16gig ram
asus p8p67 evo -v3
285gtx

normal missions i have 40-70fps with no or light cloud. Forget going over land for now. wait till patch

Not as bad as they made it out to be from the looks of it, when I get good frame rates I am going to check this out.

David603 04-03-2011 10:13 AM

Screenshots please :)

Buchon 04-03-2011 10:17 AM

Thanks for the configuration hc wolf. :)

A few screenshots :

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=250568

adonys 04-03-2011 10:23 AM

those are NOT dynamic weather settings, but normal scripted weather ones.

you can access the directly from FMB in mission's properties, where you can set asa many layers of wind (each with its own properties) as you want to (my Huns! mission has two of them, one from 0 to 1500 and one from 1500 to 3000). you can also set local weather layers.


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