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AndyJWest 03-25-2011 01:48 AM

We must make sacrifices
 
Clearly, things have not being going entirely as we might have wished in the last few days. The Gods are clearly angry at our futile attempts to replicate their creation (reality, or at least a small, but well-designed part of it - on this side of the Channel at least ;) ). To placate the gods, we must be prepared to make a sacrifice...

I wonder if Tree has seen The Wicker Man?

lbuchele 03-25-2011 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 239018)
Clearly, things have not being going entirely as we might have wished in the last few days. The Gods are clearly angry at our futile attempts to replicate their creation (reality, or at least a small, but well-designed part of it - on this side of the Channel at least ;) ). To placate the gods, we must be prepared to make a sacrifice...

I wonder if Tree has seen The Wicker Man?

I vote for Tree as a human sacrifice...

BadAim 03-25-2011 02:14 AM

I sure hope prospects improve by tomorrow.

15JG52_Brauer 03-25-2011 05:48 AM

Too true - I hope the 1 C guys take a positive view - if the folk here didn't care about their product they wouldn't moan and b*tch so much (Well, some would, but they are the kind every forum has). Also as most of us are responsible adults we should know better than to throw our toys out of the pram - be a bit patient - Rome wasn't built in a day, not even 2 weeks (Yep.. be sure..) but down the road , sooner or later , maybe after some patches we ARE going to have a great game worth buying/playing for years to come - so it's time to put up or shut up folks - but whatever you do stop bitch*ng.
Here's wishing Oleg,Ilya and the team all the best - have courage in adversity and you will come through the other side a stronger, wiser team.

Rgds 15/JG52_Brauer (formely JZG_Brauer from the late days of EAW and early days of FB & AEP etc)

wannabetheace 03-25-2011 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lbuchele (Post 239029)
I vote for Tree as a human sacrifice...

LoL

machoo 03-25-2011 06:33 AM

What are you people talking about?

JG52Krupi 03-25-2011 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbuchele (Post 239029)
I vote for Tree as a human sacrifice...

The only thing I disagree with here is that the guy in the film doesn't deserve to be burnt alive but Tree does. :P

Tree_UK 03-25-2011 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 239129)
The only thing I disagree with here is that the guy in the film doesn't deserve to be burnt alive but Tree does. :P

Ive been flamed enough on these forums, for all these years, it must hurt you bad to now acceppt that I was right.

JG52Krupi 03-25-2011 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 239132)
Ive been flamed enough on these forums, for all these years, it must hurt you bad to now acceppt that I was right.

But your still not right and your definitely not right in the head to be so pleased that the launch in Russia has been messed up.

Go book yourself a seat at a psychiatrist...

Nothing you said has been right, until I see the game running poorly on my PC I refuse to speculate.

DC338 03-25-2011 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 239137)
But your still not right and your definitely not right in the head to be so pleased that the launch in Russia has been messed up.

Go book yourself a seat at a psychiatrist...

Nothing you said has been right, until I see the game running poorly on my PC I refuse to speculate.

Prepare yourself then Krupi. Friend running I7 920 at 2.6ghz 8GB of ram and a GTX580 says it's a slideshow at medium settings.

kendo65 03-25-2011 06:54 AM

Thanks Andy, needed a laugh today.

Relax Tree, it's just a joke. Nothing serious.


By the way, what did you say your address was again...?...

JG52Krupi 03-25-2011 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DC338 (Post 239140)
Prepare yourself then Krupi. Friend running I7 920 at 2.6ghz 8GB of ram and a GTX580 says it's a slideshow at medium settings.

Was that with the patch?

MD_Titus 03-25-2011 07:33 AM

Isn't 2.6ghz below recommended, or is that offset by it being a four core rather than dual?

Tree_UK 03-25-2011 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 239144)
Was that with the patch?

You wish.... :grin:

Tree_UK 03-25-2011 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kendo65 (Post 239141)
Thanks Andy, needed a laugh today.

Relax Tree, it's just a joke. Nothing serious.


By the way, what did you say your address was again...?...

Love the avatar mate :grin:

kendo65 03-25-2011 07:47 AM

Sums up very nicely how I'm feeling today...

Haven't had time to search for a 'sick as a parrott' one yet.

Though I hope in a few days this will be viewed as silly over-reaction

:)

Tiger27 03-25-2011 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 239132)
Ive been flamed enough on these forums, for all these years, it must hurt you bad to now acceppt that I was right.

You'd be getting a sore arm from patting yourself on the back Tree, you used the shotgun approach, complained about everything that way you were certain to be right on a few :rolleyes:

Tree_UK 03-25-2011 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiger27 (Post 239201)
You'd be getting a sore arm from patting yourself on the back Tree, you used the shotgun approach, complained about everything that way you were certain to be right on a few :rolleyes:

I have a gift for 'reading in between the lines' . I tried to share it with you guys but it fell on deaf ears.

whatnot 03-25-2011 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbuchele (Post 239029)
I vote for Tree as a human sacrifice...

That made me LoL, thanks! :o

And +1 vote on that.

JG52Krupi 03-25-2011 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 239239)
I have a gift for 'reading in between the lines' . I tried to share it with you guys but it fell on deaf ears.

A gift of reading between the lines and then making XXXX up with no facts, really very astute of you.

Damixu 03-25-2011 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 239263)
A gift of reading between the lines and then making XXXX up with no facts, really very astute of you.

Heheh, that's nasty.... but true!

Baron 03-25-2011 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 239132)
Ive been flamed enough on these forums, for all these years, it must hurt you bad to now acceppt that I was right.


Please Tree, feel free to enlighten us exactly where u where right and EVERYONE ELSE was wrong.

1.
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4.
5.

If u need more space, by all means, add it yourselfe.

whatnot 03-25-2011 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 239239)
I have a gift for 'reading in between the lines' . I tried to share it with you guys but it fell on deaf ears.

Does that mean making assumptions of facts that are not available and then build all possible worst case scenarios around them? And after all that good work is done bring gloom every thread you've participated by constantly spamming those negative assumptions as facts. And then finnish it off by a lot of "I told you so's" if some of those assumptions are eventually correct.

That is a true gift you were blessed with Tree. But what's the purpose of that activity you've been practising here for all these years?

1) Motivate the dev team and improve the product through constructive critisim they're creating with this talent of yours?

or

2) Trying to prove a point for whatever reason that CloD is going to be a lot worse than what people have hoped for so they won't waste a good 49$ or so supporting one of the last players in the sim market?

My guess is the latter option and I got to salute for your conviction and persistance in driving your agenda.

Devastat 03-25-2011 09:24 AM

From reading all these posts by Tree from time to time, to me it looks like *cough* he just needs to get laid.. that's all. :p

whatnot 03-25-2011 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Devastat (Post 239289)
From reading all these posts by Tree from time to time, to me it looks like *cough* he just needs to get laid.. that's all. :p

Could be as he seems to have the need to get to the center stage through his abundance of pessimism.

As Tree offered to collect money for a powerful PC for CloD vids, maybe we the community could return a favour and collect a donation to fulfill Tree's booty call. :cool:

Moggy 03-25-2011 09:33 AM

Bloody amateurs the lot of you...if you're going to do it, do it the British way!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqw2KOOzdzQ

Tree_UK 03-25-2011 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron (Post 239269)
Please Tree, feel free to enlighten us exactly where u where right and EVERYONE ELSE was wrong.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

If u need more space, by all means, add it yourselfe.

Ok OK, I admit I was wrong on everything. The game runs great, we did see loads of in game footage before release, SLI/Crossfire runs great after lots of testing by the Dev's. You can run this game really well on mid range PC's just like the dev's intended. The sounds simply rock. Flying over a city is a just like WOP for FPS but better graphics, The airfields dont affect FPS at all.

klem 03-25-2011 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 239302)
Ok OK, I admit I was wrong on everything. The game runs great, we did see loads of in game footage before release, SLI/Crossfire runs great after lots of testing by the Dev's. You can run this game really well on mid range PC's just like the dev's intended. The sounds simply rock. Flying over a city is a just like WOP for FPS but better graphics, The airfields dont affect FPS at all.

Thank the gods for that! I won't have to upgrade the Amiga.

:)

zauii 03-25-2011 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 239132)
Ive been flamed enough on these forums, for all these years, it must hurt you bad to now acceppt that I was right.

Want a cookie?
Almost forgot, ye ur still wrong.

Devastat 03-25-2011 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatnot (Post 239296)
maybe we the community could return a favour and collect a donation to fulfill Tree's booty call.

Yep I think his posts about CoD would suddenly turn overly optimistic :cool:

mazex 03-25-2011 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moggy (Post 239298)
Bloody amateurs the lot of you...if you're going to do it, do it the British way!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqw2KOOzdzQ

Nice to have a laugh stuck in between all these doomsday prophecies...

Tree_UK 03-25-2011 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devastat (Post 239320)
Yep I think his posts about CoD would suddenly turn overly optimistic :cool:

Is that the best you've got, trying to make out I cant get laid!! lol. Well its an original attempt at defending Cliffs of Dover i will give u that. However, you tend to find that ex recording artist such as myself dont suffer too much with pulling birds, but i will happily except your kind and generous offer of sending me some cash, not that i need it of course. :grin::grin:

Devastat 03-25-2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 239328)
However, you tend to find that ex recording artist such as myself dont suffer too much with pulling birds

Can I get your name as an artist? I would love to hear your music.

Tree_UK 03-25-2011 10:09 AM

lol i bet you would, search Simhq, theres a link to all the videos if you really are serious, which i doubt. :grin:

Devastat 03-25-2011 10:10 AM

I am serious.

klem 03-25-2011 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Devastat (Post 239339)
I am serious.

Nah, he's after your women. :)

whatnot 03-25-2011 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 239328)
Is that the best you've got, trying to make out I cant get laid!! lol. Well its an original attempt at defending Cliffs of Dover i will give u that. However, you tend to find that ex recording artist such as myself dont suffer too much with pulling birds, but i will happily except your kind and generous offer of sending me some cash, not that i need it of course. :grin::grin:

Got to admit, the 'getting laid' bit was a bit sub-par and silly being right in the ballpark of the childish behaviour of accusing people being 13 y/o etc. The recent worrying news in the eve of the release combined with your 1000+ post history of talking CloD down must have fused an juvenile reaction.

But what made it worth while is I guess was the fact of defending on it: 'Guys, I do get laid a lot, I'm an ex artist'. Priceless. :)

And PS. Sorry for all the off-topicness on my part around here today.

Moggy 03-25-2011 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazex (Post 239327)
Nice to have a laugh stuck in between all these doomsday prophecies...

Thanks, I'm too hyped about the game to let the sandwich board wearers on this forum get me down.

I've been reading the manual and some of the features are just fantastic. Bring it on I say!

whatnot 03-25-2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moggy (Post 239350)
I've been reading the manual and some of the features are just fantastic. Bring it on I say!

Where did you get the manual, would love to get my hands on it too!

Tree_UK 03-25-2011 10:30 AM

For those that are interested here is a post from a guy called 'Sim' over at simhq, he is an Oleg and Luthier fan this is what he posted.

At the moment, this game is unplayable without a patch. It doesn't matter if you have super-computer because it will lag even on lowest settings. The game runs in 32 bit mode only, runs only on single core CPU and uses about 1gig of ram in quick mission over sea with one other plane. I don't know what anti-epilepsy they are speaking because I'm about to have one with additional rage from being so frustrated. There are bugs - easily visible that should not have been at this stage of a game. Frame rate oddly enough shows 30-40 fps using in game counter. But my eyes sees 10 fps, if that. Patch is needed. And fast.

SQB 03-25-2011 11:08 AM

currently got a friend in Russia, news is not all bad it seems.
Game is running avg32fps (which is fine by me) in a flight over london and the fields around it, game was on high/medium settings running on a q8400, 2gb ram and a 6870 with windows xp.

He does say there are a fair few graphical bugs, but that a patch is about to be released which promises to solve a fair few of them. Also there is no crossfire support but once again this is to be added in "weeks not months".

Sounds... good, even great. Look at those graphics, this will be awesome when it hits steam! :grin:

Baron 03-25-2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 239302)
Ok OK, I admit I was wrong on everything. The game runs great, we did see loads of in game footage before release, SLI/Crossfire runs great after lots of testing by the Dev's. You can run this game really well on mid range PC's just like the dev's intended. The sounds simply rock. Flying over a city is a just like WOP for FPS but better graphics, The airfields dont affect FPS at all.


U dont get it do u?


All those "issues", if there are any, (excuse me for not trusting a handfull of users making complaints 30 min after installing the game) is something every sane person expects from a brand spanking new release.....except u.

Just because u "predict" (dont make me laugh) that everything will be sh*t doesnt make u right on individual issues.

To put it in a way even u understand: If u toss up a handfull of gravel straight up in the air, at least one is bound to hit u in the head.

Doesnt make u clever, or the messias in predicting it would happen, it kind of makes u "dense" for thinking it WOULNT happen.

The fact the u pat your selfe on the back publicly when it DOES happen kind of reinforces the "dense" part. (trying to use as kind of a word i can not to offend anyone)

Get the differance?

Tree_UK 03-25-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron (Post 239645)
U dont get it do u?


All those "issues", if there are any, (excuse me for not trusting a handfull of users making complaints 30 min after installing the game) is something every sane person expects from a brand spanking new release.....except u.

Just because u "predict" (dont make me laugh) that everything will be sh*t doesnt make u right on individual issues.

To put it in a way even u understand: If u toss up a handfull of gravel straight up in the air, at least one is bound to hit u in the head.

Doesnt make u clever, or the messias in predicting it would happen, it kind of makes u "dense" for thinking it WOULNT happen.

Get the differance?

Well the simple answer to that is that all the concerns i raised have come to be. hopefully these will be fixed, but saying that in this day and age we should expect to have an unfinished product on launch is frankly dumb.

zauii 03-25-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 239649)
Well the simple answer to that is that all the concerns i raised have come to be. hopefully these will be fixed, but saying that in this day and age we should expect to have an unfinished product on launch is frankly dumb.

I'm quite concerned about humankind, i'll make sure to cheer enough the day we eventually go under and break out the nukes or get our asses whopped by the sun, its just a matter of time after all.

Cool huh i can predict the futurezor

/monkey mode off

Baron 03-25-2011 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 239649)
Well the simple answer to that is that all the concerns i raised have come to be. hopefully these will be fixed, but saying that in this day and age we should expect to have an unfinished product on launch is frankly dumb.

There u go again "unfinished product", thats YOUR words (to hit home a bit easier).

Personally, i dont trust ANY "reviewer" whos making complaints about the game hours or even minutes after installing it.

WTF, what kind of attention span/patience do someone posses to be that whiny. Seriously.


Edit. I bet its the same nutjob who wanted "killstreaks" so he could earn a flying fortress riddled with cannons to kill averyone and everything. "That would be cooool"...dho.

addman 03-25-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 239649)
Well the simple answer to that is that all the concerns i raised have come to be. hopefully these will be fixed, but saying that in this day and age we should expect to have an unfinished product on launch is frankly dumb.

What about Fallout: New Vegas? Great game, BUG RIDDEN on release.

Baron 03-25-2011 02:17 PM

Following that reasoning IL2 1946 is an unfinished game since we get new users posting about problems to this day.

zauii 03-25-2011 03:22 PM

Well im buying it simply to support them, without a successful initial release there is no hope so im happy to contribute, also remember this is ubisoft fault not the developers and everyone who knows 1CMaddox track record should not be worried.
I'd do the same for RO2,DCS,ROF etc if anything would come up simply to show support for developers that care, its a rare genre as it is pc gaming and simulation even more so.

recoilfx 03-25-2011 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SQB (Post 239418)
currently got a friend in Russia, news is not all bad it seems.
Game is running avg32fps (which is fine by me) in a flight over london and the fields around it, game was on high/medium settings running on a q8400, 2gb ram and a 6870 with windows xp.

He does say there are a fair few graphical bugs, but that a patch is about to be released which promises to solve a fair few of them. Also there is no crossfire support but once again this is to be added in "weeks not months".

Sounds... good, even great. Look at those graphics, this will be awesome when it hits steam! :grin:

It seems like all the HD6xxx series are doing a lot better than the Nvidias so far.

Troll2k 03-25-2011 03:53 PM

I think we should throw Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan into the volcano.

el0375 03-25-2011 05:03 PM

personally, I condone every kind of attack to everyone, ( Tree, and others involved in such things too.Tree sorry for using you, but you was around that last days , and cant remember other names)
what i can say, is that we might need is just be a little Humile( you have the opportunity to learn something from everyone, and that you cant know everything)
the fact that i can see that makes some people angry, is that not everyone has the same standars for products, and reacts so.
Bad criticism is violence, contructive its not

klem 03-25-2011 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troll2k (Post 239796)
I think we should throw Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan into the volcano.

I would have thought Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan would have created their own volcano. If he won't, I'm up for it :)

Is this off-topic? Do I care? :D

Kikuchiyo 03-25-2011 05:11 PM

Okay here's the short and simple of it. A pessimist is right about 1/3 of the time and never disappointed. An optimist is right about 1/3 of the time, and often disappointed. Everyone else assumes there will be good and bad, and are equally un/disappointed.

Tree, yes, you were right there would be issues, however it hasn't made the game entirely unplayable for all (as you predicted). You were right in some regards, and now maybe isn't the time to go tooting your horn.

Everyone else: Drop it. Tree will be Tree and you are only fueling him.

Troll2k 03-25-2011 05:33 PM

The title of the tread is "we have to make sacrifices."

The movie Joe Versus The Volcano came to mind.

kimosabi 03-25-2011 07:47 PM

I think I'll sacrifice my simming in favor of actually having a life again. Slooowly getting there. :grin:

Feuerfalke 03-25-2011 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kikuchiyo (Post 239910)
Okay here's the short and simple of it. A pessimist is right about 1/3 of the time and never disappointed. An optimist is right about 1/3 of the time, and often disappointed. Everyone else assumes there will be good and bad, and are equally un/disappointed.

Tree, yes, you were right there would be issues, however it hasn't made the game entirely unplayable for all (as you predicted). You were right in some regards, and now maybe isn't the time to go tooting your horn.

Everyone else: Drop it. Tree will be Tree and you are only fueling him.


Tree's just playing his role and he does it nicely.

And every post flaming him is applause in his eyes.

If he'd mean only 50% of what he's saying, he would have shot himself with a poisoned electric wire, where the water is the deepest 3 years ago.


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