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Oleg Maddox 03-18-2011 11:40 AM

Friday update and discussions 2011-03-18
 
Hi,

Today is Friday cinema!

Video produced by Tinus le Roux (Biltongbru)

Music composed by Andrey Lyubimov

Managed by Andrey Samoteykin (Deda)


Simply action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcm_5L6yZIY

Some shots from early morning London:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-oKro36rKo


PS: There are present some small glitches known for me and the team... But watch please the overal picture. You may find there many new details.

blades96 03-18-2011 11:42 AM

Very nice, and early!!

louisv 03-18-2011 11:44 AM

get your popcorn...

Thanks Oleg and Ilya and everybody...a dream come true :grin:

Louis

PS: Look at 4:05 in the first film and tell me how can you tell the difference from reality (try it on an unsuspecting non simmer friend).

robtek 03-18-2011 11:45 AM

Just great!!!

Robert 03-18-2011 11:47 AM

Delicious pudding.

Daniël 03-18-2011 11:50 AM

Well, I have nothing to say:) It's really good!:grin:
Thank you :grin:

zauii 03-18-2011 11:50 AM

Awsome

BadAim 03-18-2011 11:52 AM

Fan-freaking-tastic! Love the damage model detail. It looks like you've made some nice movie effects, really good stuff.

giovanni the ace 03-18-2011 11:52 AM

Purely awsomeness.

Feuerfalke 03-18-2011 11:53 AM

O M G

Friggin awesome. :cool:

Royraiden 03-18-2011 11:53 AM

Best update ever!!!!Thanks so much Oleg and team.Would you care to clarify the release date information for the rest of the world?

Sternjaeger 03-18-2011 11:54 AM

Superb! Great work Oleg and team!! :)

Oleg Maddox 03-18-2011 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royraiden (Post 235623)
Best update ever!!!!Thanks so much Oleg and team.Would you care to clarify the release date information for the rest of the world?

As I know nothing changed - 25th.

Drum_tastic 03-18-2011 11:57 AM

Looking superb, really, really looking forward to flying this.

Well done Oleg and crew, brilliant!

pancake 03-18-2011 11:59 AM

Gahh! I want this now!

Daniël 03-18-2011 11:59 AM

A question: What's happening to the rudders of the Hurricane at 2:54? Video 1

Eklund89 03-18-2011 12:01 PM

Incredible! It looks just amazing!

Devastat 03-18-2011 12:01 PM

Hi Oleg!

Thanks for the great update, can't wait to play the game!

I would like to ask that is CoD gonna support, or have the option to play with binaural sound?

Best Regards.

1.JaVA_Sharp 03-18-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniël (Post 235629)
A question: What's happening to the rudders of the Hurricane at 2:54? Video 1

that's probably one of the small glitches Oleg mentions in his first post.

Oleg Maddox 03-18-2011 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniël (Post 235629)
A question: What's happening to the rudders of the Hurricane at 2:54? Video 1

Its AI glitch or uncertainty of AI character. May happens some time. See my comment in PS above

Royraiden 03-18-2011 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox (Post 235626)
As I know nothing changed - 25th.

Thank you Sir!

Caveman 03-18-2011 12:07 PM

Looking great.

Are we hearing real in-game sound in the the shots of the fighters flying over London in the 2nd video?

nearmiss 03-18-2011 12:08 PM

Very excellent update.

Everyone should be excited for such good news.

Daniël 03-18-2011 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox (Post 235636)
Its AI glitch or uncertainty of AI character. May happens some time. See my comment in PS above

Thank you :)

Trumper 03-18-2011 12:09 PM

:) Thanks Oleg,looks very nice.
Are those ingame sounds in the 2nd video ie the merlin engines?, also the train sounds and also right at the end sounds like a massed formation of aircraft over head.
Hope so, :)

nearmiss 03-18-2011 12:11 PM

When can we expect a current list of flyable and AI aircraft?

kgwanchos 03-18-2011 12:11 PM

Im just totally speechless .... bravo bravo...

wannabetheace 03-18-2011 12:12 PM

Great update ever :)
Is the London 1940 video has binaural sound? especially when planes pass over head :-P.

Ctrl E 03-18-2011 12:13 PM

Amazing

Avimimus 03-18-2011 12:14 PM

One can definitely see how a mild increase in texture detail (buildings, rail beds) could make this a decent vehicle simulation (trains, trucks, infantry to an OFP/2001 level).

As always - very impressed.

One feature which surprised me was the wing beginning to rotate before it snaps off (which gives the same visual impression as the RoF damage models - but is simpler to calculate).

Robert 03-18-2011 12:15 PM

GEEEEEEEZ. Love the smoke at 1:14 of the first clip. WOW!!!!!

Is the slow motion used in the video from the editor or from within the game? That's some damn fine slow motion ~ 2:01.

The damage effects of the 111's look smashing. Even better on the Do being "spitfired" to death a minute later.

The lighting is brilliant.


Lastly, in the London 1940 clip, is that in game sound of the Spitfire? Sweet if it is.

sfmadmax 03-18-2011 12:17 PM

Thx for the update.. :P

Good news about the release. gives me more time to save up for my GTX 580 :P

easyhomewin 03-18-2011 12:18 PM

awesome, just picking up my jaw from the floor:grin:

Nice to see video footage of the Sunderlands also :cool:

Skarphol 03-18-2011 12:21 PM

Everything looks fantastic! Even the water is awesome! Look at the water at 4:07! It looks darned cold and unpleasant to ditch into! And all this a week away!!

Skarphol

Oleg Maddox 03-18-2011 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert (Post 235647)
GEEEEEEEZ. Love the smoke at 1:14 of the first clip. WOW!!!!!

Is the slow motion used in the video from the editor or from within the game? That's some damn fine slow motion ~ 2:01.

Its engine feature for cinema makers

meshuggahs 03-18-2011 12:26 PM

You got the pilot size all wrong in the first video from 0:11 to 0:17! The models are terribly unrealistic! :evil:

Friendly_flyer 03-18-2011 12:26 PM

Wow!

I'm applying for a nights leave to go your 1940's London, Oleg! It looks great!

The train is beautiful! I have a daughter who is in the "Thomas the Tank Engine" age. She's going to love dad fiddling with the FMB!

KG26_Alpha 03-18-2011 12:27 PM

Brilliant update

Thanks Oleg

Are there any plans for human traffic AI routines for towns and cities ?


Thxz


Ermmm


Quote:

Originally Posted by meshuggahs (Post 235652)
You got the pilot size all wrong in the first video from 0:11 to 0:17! The models are terribly unrealistic! :evil:


You need to know the reason for this is due to a technical issue already explained by Oleg/1C Team

=WF=RAW 03-18-2011 12:27 PM

pretty nice, but is that a freezes while spits flyuing over city in second movie?

Friendly_flyer 03-18-2011 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox (Post 235636)
Its AI glitch or uncertainty of AI character. May happens some time. See my comment in PS above

Wouldn't that just help making the AI more unpredictable, just like humans?

Oldschool61 03-18-2011 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox (Post 235626)
As I know nothing changed - 25th.

SO gone GOLD for the whole world then??

Robert 03-18-2011 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox (Post 235651)
Its engine feature for cinema makers


Excellent. Thank you sir.

Insuber 03-18-2011 12:29 PM

Oleg, Luthier ... beautifuller than expected ... amazing details, awesome videos ... BRAVO to the team!

David198502 03-18-2011 12:30 PM

and the guncam footage at 4:05 just looks overwhelming!!!when the 110 kills the spit, i dont see the difference between a simulator and reality!!the last burning spit is also very convincing!i can feel a cold shiver on my skin every time i watch it!
all in all, the effects in this video look brilliant and in my opinion its way above everything we have seen so far.the models,the water,effects,everything has improved.and i think even the pilots in the spits have changed their sitting position.
cant wait to buy and install the game to find out that my rig wont run it.
best update ever!!!!

Robert 03-18-2011 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by =WF=RAW (Post 235655)
pretty nice, but is that a freezes while spits flyuing over city in second movie?


I think it's the compression used to create the file for You Tube download. Notice the fades in and out of black. Very choppy.

Dano 03-18-2011 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by =WF=RAW (Post 235655)
pretty nice, but is that a freezes while spits flyuing over city in second movie?

The whole movie is like it.

Looking great, slightly mystified by the Oleg/Ubi difference in release date opinions though.

CharveL 03-18-2011 12:33 PM

Is the in-game audio being held back as a bit of a surprise for release? Spits sound pretty nice in the videos but it would be great to hear in-cockpit and out of cockpit sounds for flak and guns.

Also, I notice that the video editors did a nice job but it looks like they had to slow down 30fps output in an external editor which makes me wonder if the in-game video track editor allows for output of slow motion video at 30fps.

Thanks again for the update!

Romanator21 03-18-2011 12:33 PM

I think I just shorted my keyboard with drool :grin:

OLEG! What have you been hiding from us all this time! It's better than I expected (and I expected the best!)

=WF=RAW 03-18-2011 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert (Post 235662)
I think it's the compression used to create the file for You Tube download. Notice the fades in and out of black. Very choppy.

good if so.
btw i though we can hear ingame sound at least... this is no more secret as the game goes to gold...
a little sadly not to hear complete ingame battle atmosphere with this last friday update before the release.

HanneG 03-18-2011 12:35 PM

Dear Lord that was painful. I hope they can fix at least the graphics until release, reviewers will be much less forgiving than the sycophants around here. Nice weapon and engine sounds, though, ahem. Was the lack of self-shadowing part of the "glitch" or done for performance reasons?

Sutts 03-18-2011 12:35 PM

Very nice update Oleg, thanks.

Thank you so much for fixing the posture of the Spit pilot...so much better.

kikque 03-18-2011 12:36 PM

The Spitfire/ Do-17 kill looked amazing, thanks ever so much Oleg & the team. Great update. :grin:

FlatSpinMan 03-18-2011 12:38 PM

THAAAAAAAAAAANNNKKK You OLEG AND THE TEAM! THAT is what we have been waiting to see!

Feathered_IV 03-18-2011 12:38 PM

Great videos. The bomber crews look nice. Do they do anything? Do they report on land sea or air contacts, navigate, aim the bombs or watch your engines for you? Can you give them orders, tell them go to oxygen or hear them making small talk?

JG52Uther 03-18-2011 12:38 PM

Amazing!

150GCT_Veltro 03-18-2011 12:39 PM

Looks great, today is a good day.

Give me an Emil!!!!!

4S_Nero 03-18-2011 12:40 PM

Finally my childhood dreams will be reality.

Grazie Mr. Oleg and team.

JG52Uther 03-18-2011 12:41 PM

Hope that Do17 becomes flyable at some point.

KG26_Alpha 03-18-2011 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 235672)
Great videos. The bomber crews look nice. Do they do anything? Do they report on land sea or air contacts, navigate, aim the bombs or watch your engines for you? Can you give them orders, tell them go to oxygen or hear them making small talk?

Pick their nose scratch their arse do the crossword pour the coffee/tea, oil the oily bits ..............

addman 03-18-2011 12:42 PM

Very nice, the train perron is ridiculously detailed:), posters on the pillars? sweet jesus! Come to think about it, the whole of London is ridiculously detailed. This is a good thing, thanks Oleg!

RCAF_FB_Orville 03-18-2011 12:42 PM

Some encouraging stuff, and the tracers look fine from where I am standing. :) Getting a little more excited about it now......Oleg can you give us any more info on how Chain home-chain home low radar and German Freya system will be implemented exactly, and in how much detail?

I know we are not getting a 'dynamic' campaign on first release, but what I would like to know is if eventually the 'battle of the beams' will be simulated at least in some rudimentary way? IE the possibility of German Radio navigation and Freya radar being 'spoofed' by British countermeasures like 'Mandrel' and 'Moonshine' etc.

German radio navigation was very effective early on (particulary raids like Coventry etc) but was eventually effectively thwarted and countered by various means. There are verifiable accounts of German bomber crews actually landing on British airfields hopelessly lost after British signal jamming, as many were not trained in other navigation methods and some thought they were actually landing in friendly territory! *You're nicked, son!* :grin:

I think this aspect of the war would be great to expand upon and would add a very interesting tactical element, we already have the Boulton defiants for 'Mandrel' in particular. Of course later in the war there is the 'night fighter' element too, with the consequent ECM battle that involved.

First things first of course. :)

Thanks.

LoBiSoMeM 03-18-2011 12:43 PM

As usual, amazing, but will I can use my Freetrack setup to look around all this glorious rendered sky, planes, and ground?

CharveL 03-18-2011 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert (Post 235662)
I think it's the compression used to create the file for You Tube download. Notice the fades in and out of black. Very choppy.

Like I said, it looks more like the editors took 30fps output from the in-game track recorder and slowed it down for effect, essentially dropping frames. It's the only thing that really detracts from their efforts really as the other aspects are pretty decent.

Manuc 03-18-2011 12:45 PM

very nice, but the AAA-gun at 1:30 in the 1st video clip should be manned by a crew.

Triggaaar 03-18-2011 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox (Post 235626)
As I know nothing changed - 25th.

Thanks for keeping us informed. And please be aware, if it is delayed for whatever reason, most of us understand that some things are beyond your control, although there will be threads whining that it's unacceptable etc.

FlatSpinMan 03-18-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HanneG (Post 235667)
Dear Lord that was painful. I hope they can fix at least the graphics until release, reviewers will be much less forgiving than the crowd &*&*(&*(&(*. Nice weapon and engine sounds, though, ahem. Was the lack of self-shadowing part of the "glitch" or done for performance reasons?

Hold on. We saw details of the POSTERS on bollards at train stations in London, we saw the WEEDS in the Thames blowing in the wind, to say nothing of the amazingly impressive aircraft and THAT is your comment?!

You suck. It's official. Ban me if needed but this guy is out of line.

Raggz 03-18-2011 12:49 PM

Simply brilliant. The amount and the attention to details is just staggering. Can't wait to get my hands on the game :)
That Stuka attack in slow motion gave me a small orgasm :P

Sven 03-18-2011 12:49 PM

AWESOME!! A couple of 109's from the first video could be from 5./JG27:grin:!

If that did not convince people who are in doubt, I don't know anymore :P

xnomad 03-18-2011 12:50 PM

Oleg Maddox 'the CODfather'.

This looks amazing! I'm loving the footage of the bf109 vs the Spit.

whatnot 03-18-2011 12:51 PM

Fantastic video, exactly what I was hoping to see! The bomb release close-ups were just fabulous!

I wonder if the clock ticks in the trainstation? ;-)

About the release dates though: Nike-IT said today that he checked from Ubi that it would be 31st March? I wonder which one of you is right? Not that it would matter to me week here or week there, but as I plan to make sure I've got vacation after the release date I'd like to make sure I don't sit here empty handed with my new rig.

Daniël 03-18-2011 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xnomad (Post 235692)
Oleg Maddox 'the CODfather'.

Hahaha! That joke and the videos made my day! :grin:

Hecke 03-18-2011 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox (Post 235626)
As I know nothing changed - 25th.

Hi Oleg,

So the thing has really gone gold a couple of days ago?

Even Ubisoft people said there would be a change, but if you say there is no change, are they crazy?

And does the 25th apply to the download and the boxed version or only the download?

meplay 03-18-2011 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xnomad (Post 235692)
Oleg Maddox 'the CODfather'.

This looks amazing! I'm loving the footage of the bf109 vs the Spit.

haha sweet,

Tvrdi 03-18-2011 12:54 PM

OLEG

this is stunning..now we finally see how planes are falling apart more realisticaly....very nice....thank you....

F19_lacrits 03-18-2011 12:54 PM

Very nice videos! :)

lbuchele 03-18-2011 12:56 PM

I suddenly realized that maybe my marriage is in jeopardy...:rolleyes:

Sutts 03-18-2011 12:57 PM

Tumbling bombs look great. Also good to see the He111 bombs falling from their vertical stowage position. I do believe that the He111 bomb doors were spring loaded though and opened and sprung back as the bombs fell through them. Perhaps someone could confirm?

I'm a bit confused by the damage to the German bombers caused by the .303 ammo of the Spits and Hurris. I remember you saying that cannon shells would cause panel damage (big holes, tears etc) while rifle caliber ammo would make small holes where they hit (just like in real life). From what I can see, the .303 rounds are making huge holes in the fuselage which just didn't happen. Looks nice I must say but isn't backed up by evidence.

Perhaps you could clarify please?

Very happy overall though. Good job.:grin:

Robert 03-18-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharveL (Post 235683)
Like I said, it looks more like the editors took 30fps output from the in-game track recorder and slowed it down for effect, essentially dropping frames. It's the only thing that really detracts from their efforts really as the other aspects are pretty decent.

It could be. From my experience I've had video's look bad at 15 fps and at 30 fps (15 for improved DL speed). Because of that I always use multi pass encoding (4x) from Sorenson squeeze. TBH, I've never tried straight AVI into You Tube because of the size restrictions, so I compress. I'm obviously assuming this was done the same way. I've never in my memory had issues with slow motion, though. The first clip's slow motion is flawless.



Either way, I don't think it's a defect of the game per se, but a side effect of online display. Sadly it does slightly diminish from the overall oooooooooh and ahhhhhhhhhhh of the first clip. Still a beaut.

As I said. Delicious pudding.

Endy 03-18-2011 12:57 PM

Wonderful. Thanks to all the team.:grin:

Biggs 03-18-2011 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox (Post 235626)
As I know nothing changed - 25th.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Nike-it (Post 235551)
Guys, today we received the confirmation from Ubisoft that the release date for EMA region is set to 31 March.

.

Robert 03-18-2011 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlatSpinMan (Post 235687)
Hold on. We saw details of the POSTERS on bollards at train stations in London, we saw the WEEDS in the Thames blowing in the wind, to say nothing of the amazingly impressive aircraft and THAT is your comment?!

You suck. It's official. Ban me if needed but this guy is out of line.



You were nicer than my self deleted post. I thought why bring myself down to his tawdry level?

Agree about a ban, though. No need to insult folks like that.

123-Wulf-123 03-18-2011 01:02 PM

Excellent work, many thanks to you Oleg, and your team :)

dup 03-18-2011 01:02 PM

Oh my god !!!!!
:o:grin:

Thanks !

Derzasi 03-18-2011 01:02 PM

Birds
 
Did anyone noticed too the birds flying close to the bridge at 00:28....
Awesome
Derzasi

I/ZG52_Gaga 03-18-2011 01:05 PM

Very nice videos !!

It seems that flying over the city would require from the user to get a CRAY II type

supercomputer ... i don't think that we will be able to dogfight over london with acceptable

frame rate eh?

I got a Core 2 6300 @ 1.86Ghz with 2 Giga RAM and a GTX 460 with 1 Giga Ram
& i don't think i'll be able to get new components..... and it looks like that i won't be able to play the game either with acceptable graphics detail ...

StalkerKHV88 03-18-2011 01:06 PM

это просто бесподобно)))) на грани фантастики)) =
it is simply incomparable)))) on the verge of science fiction))

FlatSpinMan 03-18-2011 01:08 PM

You'd be amazed. My Pc is way below minimum spec for Rise of Flight but I can play small missions on pretty high settings. I on't have much time to fly so I haven't tried bigger missions, like campaigns or anything, but just flying about learning the foibles of each plane in RoF is fine for me right now.

BigPickle 03-18-2011 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggs (Post 235705)
.

Hmmm i hate this confusion too.
Thanks for the update videos they were really exciting!

suchac500 03-18-2011 01:13 PM

Great!!! Thx Oleg and your team...
Excellent work!

T}{OR 03-18-2011 01:14 PM

Awesome update, thanks! On some shots it was indeed very difficult to distinguish weather it was real or simulated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by =WF=RAW (Post 235655)
pretty nice, but is that a freezes while spits flyuing over city in second movie?

The whole movie freezes, but I believe that we would all love to see a proper combat footage over London without the help of features for movie makers that are in the game.

HFC_Dolphin 03-18-2011 01:16 PM

I don't have enough knowledge of English adjectives to use for this update!!!

Simply F-A-N-T-A-S-T-I-C!!!

HARs_ASSOS 03-18-2011 01:16 PM

Looks amazing!

Bowtome 03-18-2011 01:18 PM

Too many picky people on here.

My opinion is NIRVANA

I am different to you guys, I will adore what is good, not pick up on what is bad.

B25Mitch 03-18-2011 01:19 PM

Instead of complaining about the lack of shadowing on planes in these clips, we should be amazed that the trailer looks this good, even with some major graphical features disabled.

PeterPanPan 03-18-2011 01:20 PM

OMG. This is truly outstanding. Well done Oleg & team.

PPanPan

Ploughman 03-18-2011 01:22 PM

Fantastic, really looks like the real thing. The way it's come on visually even in the last few weeks is really something.

Is the 25th release date for Russia only, seems Ubi thinks it's the 31st, bit of conflicting info here, but if that is the case I expect we can look forward to boat loads of vid that week from our Russian players.

ATAG_Doc 03-18-2011 01:25 PM

Thank you for the update. It's a masterpiece.

Richie 03-18-2011 01:26 PM

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Videos are amazing but the II./JG27 insignia on the 109 at :34 is not in the correct place. It should be on the cowling. Like the print below.

zapatista 03-18-2011 01:27 PM

oleg,

excellent video's thanks for the new update ! the detail in londen is amazing, great to see the town scenery extend so far in all directions.

and right at the beginning of video 1 you can see the detail of the plane interior through the windows from the outside, amazing :)

being able to get to soon fly the new flightsim you created will be a dream come true, thanks for persevering all these years !

question will there be some AI ground vehicle traffic at release time on the streets and in the fields ?

Schallmoser 03-18-2011 01:28 PM

Thanks very, very much for this update!!! :cool:

That's freaking awesome!!!

Just a question, which part of the Sunderland crew is CGI and which is in-game?

It looks really great, fabulous, superb!!! as somebody already said, running out of superlatives :grin:


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