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Sternjaeger 03-17-2011 10:46 AM

To whomever cancelled my post..
 
..it would be interesting to know why you did it and didn't even bother giving an explanation.. Or is this an enlightened regime a la Russia pre-1989?

addman 03-17-2011 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 235186)
..it would be interesting to know why you did it and didn't even bother giving an explanation.. Or is this an enlightened regime a la Russia pre-1989?

Has happened to me too, the "KGB agent" claimed it to be off-topic but it was about CoD and it wasn't offensive to anyone. I also received a "warning" for complaining about it and to think that I actually voted for moderators.

PeterPanPan 03-17-2011 11:54 AM

You are not alone. Happened to me too. Check your PMs as you may have a message from the moderator in question. I think they are frantic at the moment though in filtering out the (understandable) excitable posts!!

JG52Krupi 03-17-2011 11:57 AM

Ban and burn these heretics, THOU SHALT NOT DEFILE THIS FORUM....

Sternjaeger 03-17-2011 12:00 PM

I just expressed my opinion on all these losers that keep on whining about the release date and how they're gonna cancel their orders and buy Super Mario Kart 3 instead...

Let me try and rephrase it again for them all: go get a life!!!!!

And for the moderators: learn some decency (yes, all of you, as long as the gentleman who did cancel mine comes out) and inform people when and why you cancelled posts.

Nike-it 03-17-2011 12:03 PM

I'm sure there was a reason to delete the thread, or some technical glitch happened. Please do not make absolutely unneeded discussion.
@Sternjaeger You can always restart your thread if you think that the question is worth discussing here.

Sternjaeger 03-17-2011 12:11 PM

Nike-it, please don't offend our intelligence with the technical glitch excuse, I ran php forums before as admin and moderator and I know how they work.. funnily enough the threads that disappear are always too "hot", so either this forum engine has a thermometer or something else is going on..

Nike-it 03-17-2011 12:26 PM

I think I quite clearly wrote, that can always start the deleted thread again.

TheGrunch 03-17-2011 12:44 PM

So you started a thread which had essentially no purpose other than to start a flamewar by insulting the whiners and now you have the indecency to complain about it being deleted? :confused: Jeez.

Sternjaeger 03-17-2011 12:49 PM

stop the whining!!!!
 
..seriously guys, is your life so empty and sad that don't you really have anything better to do than moaning all day about release dates, platforms, special editions and what not? Go out and get a breath of fresh air FFS!!!

Do you think that the folks at Maddox Games are having fun changing the release date?! Those poor ba$tards have worked like crazy to deliver the finest combat sim and I am sure there are valid reasons for the delay, so let them do their job!

U can't wait?! Get your ass to a museum, read a book, watch Dark Blue World, build a model, colour some album, but don't give us all this $hit about your daily tantrums, this is a forum meant for information, it's not your psychologist couch..

uh and all of you who keep on playing the annoyed spoiled child saying "if it's not released on that date I'm gonna cancel my order and get Super Mario 3 instead" no you won't! If you're enough of a loser to place a pre-order and still believe the release dates that they tell you on the website you will still cling onto it.. and even if you really do.. well who gives a flying f**k!!

Enough is enough!! :evil:

JG52Uther 03-17-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGrunch (Post 235215)
So you started a thread which had essentially no purpose other than to start a flamewar by insulting the whiners and now you have the indecency to complain about it being deleted? :confused: Jeez.

This place just gets better every day!

LukeFF 03-17-2011 12:51 PM

You would do well to take your own advice, Sternjeager.

Sternjaeger 03-17-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGrunch (Post 235215)
So you started a thread which had essentially no purpose other than to start a flamewar by insulting the whiners and now you have the indecency to complain about it being deleted? :confused: Jeez.

..you just love being a Contrary Mary, don't you Grunch?

If I have to put up with all that nonsense of prepubescent morons I don't see why my post should be removed..

Sternjaeger 03-17-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeFF (Post 235223)
You would do well to take your own advice, Sternjeager.

...please explain, cos my brain is failing to elaborate..

LukeFF 03-17-2011 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 235227)
...please explain, cos my brain is failing to elaborate..

Hmm...well...the parts about going outside and getting fresh air; about enough being enough; about stopping the complaining already, etc.

Complaining about other people complaining just doesn't lead to anything good.

Sternjaeger 03-17-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeFF (Post 235231)
Hmm...well...the parts about going outside and getting fresh air; about enough being enough; about stopping the complaining already, etc.

Complaining about other people complaining just doesn't lead to anything good.

Oh trust me, I have a life full of interesting things happening, and I love coming to this forum to see the news and maybe take part to some intelligent conversation, but all this whining over the last two weeks has been just plain ridiculous, and there's a limited amount of BS that I can take.. so just like our lady friends here express their uterine moods, allow me to invite them to go get a life.. but thanks for the lecture on common sense anyway, I'll keep it into account for the future..

TheGrunch 03-17-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 235226)
..you just love being a Contrary Mary, don't you Grunch?

If I have to put up with all that nonsense of prepubescent morons I don't see why my post should be removed..

For the record I agree with you entirely, it's utterly pathetic that people are cancelling their preorders over a 6 day delay. But it doesn't matter to the mods what side of an argument you're on if you're creating a post *purely* to start a flamewar. That's got nothing to do with being a Contrary Mary or whatever, it's just common sense.

EDIT: Yeah, basically what LukeFF said.

CharveL 03-17-2011 01:07 PM

Chances are your thread was simply not deemed worthy.

A forum is not a democracy so get over it.

Sternjaeger 03-17-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGrunch (Post 235233)
For the record I agree with you entirely, it's utterly pathetic that people are cancelling their preorders over a 6 day delay. But it doesn't matter to the mods what side of an argument you're on if you're creating a post *purely* to start a flamewar. That's got nothing to do with being a Contrary Mary or whatever, it's just common sense.

mine was a rant, not a flamewar, and if anything is my blood boiling way to support the efforts that the guys at Maddox are making, more than a certain bunch of demanding tw@ts whose highlight of the Fridays is the update and the hours they will spend surgically dissecting every single screenshot..

Common sense is long gone in this forum me thinks..

TheGrunch 03-17-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 235235)
Common sense is long gone in this forum me thinks..

:lol: Years gone.

ATAG_Dutch 03-17-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 235235)
Common sense is long gone in this forum me thinks..

I had pasta with meatballs for lunch.:grin:

BigPickle 03-17-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 235221)
..seriously guys, is your life so empty and sad that don't you really have anything better to do than moaning all day about release dates, platforms, special editions and what not? Go out and get a breath of fresh air FFS!!!

Do you think that the folks at Maddox Games are having fun changing the release date?! Those poor ba$tards have worked like crazy to deliver the finest combat sim and I am sure there are valid reasons for the delay, so let them do their job!

U can't wait?! Get your ass to a museum, read a book, watch Dark Blue World, build a model, colour some album, but don't give us all this $hit about your daily tantrums, this is a forum meant for information, it's not your psychologist couch..

uh and all of you who keep on playing the annoyed spoiled child saying "if it's not released on that date I'm gonna cancel my order and get Super Mario 3 instead" no you won't! If you're enough of a loser to place a pre-order and still believe the release dates that they tell you on the website you will still cling onto it.. and even if you really do.. well who gives a flying f**k!!

Enough is enough!! :evil:

"Wheel in the Vasoline, this one's ready for our corperate defense team!"

Wolf_Rider 03-17-2011 01:56 PM

a possible case of hitting the back button, instead of the post button... seen it happen countless times :rolleyes:

Sternjaeger 03-17-2011 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 235262)
a possible case of hitting the back button, instead of the post button... seen it happen countless times :rolleyes:

lol it was there and got 3 views.. and then *PUFF!* ;)

Tree_UK 03-17-2011 02:15 PM

I can't decide who's side I'm on. :grin:

No601_Merlin 03-17-2011 02:22 PM

Most of their titles appeal to a younger generation than most of us, who are used to service or expect the same high standards they give in business or they don't survive. Sterjaeger you are completely right in that it will not make a difference we will all still buy the flight sim but they do need to be more professional. I would never deal with a company like UBI in a business enviroment, they would never pass my lifetime customer value test.

Sternjaeger 03-17-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by No601_Merlin (Post 235270)
Most of their titles appeal to a youger generation than most of us, who are used to service or expect the same high standards they give in business or they don't survive. Sterjaeger you are completely right in that it will not make a difference we will all still buy the flight sim but they do need to be more professional. I would never deal with a company like UBI in a business enviroment, they would never pass my lifetime customer value test.

Many many years ago, when the original IL-2 Sturmovik came out, I was so in love with the thing that I decided to create the first Italian community for it. I went to register a domain and funnily enough nobody thought about registering il2sturmovik.it which I promptly did and put up the first Italian site, quite functional and with an active community. After several months I received an email from ubisoft italy saying that they would move a legal action against me because I was using the name of the sim on a domain.. I was like "erm.. wake up ladies, it saddens my heart to give you this info but it doesnt work like that for internet domains".. you know, if they played it friendly I would have had nothing against it, but then they realised the size of the bullshit they were saying, so came back with a more friendly and supportive attitude..

The truth is that I really really do hope that software distributors like Ubisoft would die and rot in hell.

They serve little or no purpose, if not to aggravate and stress the developers (ubi vs maddox is our perfect example) and they only cause to increase the price tag of a game.

Steam is what I reckon the future should be like, and Im sorry for he box collectors out there, but that's the past..

SEE 03-17-2011 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 235283)

Steam is what I reckon the future should be like, and Im sorry for he box collectors out there, but that's the past..

Cannot comment on Steam but I do like having a physical object to handle for my dosh if possible. I bought WOP on DVD and the discs made great beer mats with pics of Spittys on em....:grin:

Vevster 03-17-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 235283)
The truth is that I really really do hope that software distributors like Ubisoft would die and rot in hell.

They serve little or no purpose, if not to aggravate and stress the developers (ubi vs maddox is our perfect example) and they only cause to increase the price tag of a game.

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Ubi is not a distributor, it's an editor. They buy games from studios , sometimes other editors. they also finance games for some studios.
without financing from editors, certains games would not be released (not saying it is the case for Il2 or Cliffs of Dover, I do not know the investment capabilities of 1C or Maddox Games)
They also make their own games. Wether you like these games or not is another question.

Their (Ubi's) attitude towards you & your site (doesn't exist anymore?) was certainly poor to say the least, but since you do not know anything of the relationship between Ubi & Maddox, no need to elaborate on this.
Saying it is a perfect example without having any real information (only an external perspective) is quite a stretch.

Upthair 03-18-2011 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 235207)
funnily enough the threads that disappear are always too "hot", so either this forum engine has a thermometer...

:lol:

It happened to me, too. I remember that my post deleted by an admin was about an IL2 modder's plane smoke tail, which, I said, looked like clouds of volcanic ash, and was therefore not realistic.


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