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Xilon_x 03-07-2011 02:26 PM

Heavy Bombers to Il-2
 
in IL-2 heavy bombers and transport and recoimsance there 'are few.
I'd like to increase the list of heavy bombers.

Piaggio P108.
http://e.imagehost.org/0174/Piaggio-..._Luftwaffe.jpg
this version
http://www.starmiles.it/17GCT/images...%20P%20108.jpg
and this version.
Savoia Marchetti S.M.95a
http://e.imagehost.org/0728/SM95_A_regia.jpg
http://e.imagehost.org/0288/Sm95_3.jpg
THE BIG BIG CANT Z 511 transatlantic airplane Project for attak U.S.A. (new york) remember flottiglia max?
http://e.imagehost.org/0393/CantZ511_2.jpg
http://e.imagehost.org/0458/CantZ511_NY.jpg
these are all four-engine, and long range.
THIS is the Breda Zappata B.Z.308 the equivalent to Lockheed L-1049 G Constellation we call the italian constellation.
http://www.url.it/muvi/dbfoto/ingrandimenti/bz11.jpg
http://www.url.it/muvi/dbfoto/ingrandimenti/bz02.jpg
http://c.imagehost.org/0349/BZ308_vs_L1049.jpg

Xilon_x 03-07-2011 02:33 PM

this is international example
http://g.imagehost.org/0191/BZ308_Export.jpg
http://e.imagehost.org/0936/Quadrimotori.jpg
this is the performance:
http://e.imagehost.org/0086/Quadrimotori_comp.jpg

this is the LAST ITALIAN super BOMBER PIAGGIO P.133 equivalent to B24 liberator.
http://a.imagehost.org/0245/Piaggio_133.jpg
the project:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26..._p_133_532.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/34gshg4.jpg

Kye 03-07-2011 03:22 PM

We're not stopping you. ;)

Do you have the spare time?

Xilon_x 03-07-2011 03:46 PM

Nakajima G10N "Fugaku" super jant bomber
http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/rys/rys179.jpg
Convair XB-36
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...9_and_B-36.jpg

Daniël 03-07-2011 03:52 PM

The Convair XB-36 isn't going to be in Il-2, I'm sure.

But, wow. That's just an idiotic large plane. I would like to see an I-16 next to it :P It's a tiny dot compared to the Convair!

Xilon_x 03-07-2011 05:00 PM

conavair xb36 transport xf85 goblin
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5384/xf85goblin4db.jpg

TinyTim 03-07-2011 08:39 PM

That's an EB-29. Goblin never flew with Convair as a host, but it sure would look even tinier there.

Sven 03-07-2011 09:12 PM

I always have laugh when I see a picture of the Goblin, in a good way though:) I have a passion for early jet fighters, like the Migs Sabres and the goblin all beautiful;)

Some more picture about the Goblin:

http://www.air-and-space.com/goblins.htm

Xilon_x 03-08-2011 05:00 AM

This project dates back to 1943 and is part of an RAF brief for a 'super bomber' with long range, adequate defensive armament and large bomb-load. The Type 'C' as the name suggests is one of several developments by Vickers in response to this brief (there were many other design from other leading aircraft manufacturers). However, it soon became apparent that at least five years would be needed to fully develop aircraft of this complexity and versatility. Coupled with the success of the Avro Lancaster and advent of practical jet propulsion made this (and the other proposals) redundant.


Span: 64.0m (210' 0") Length: 29.0m (95' 0") Max. Speed: 621 km/h (382 mph)
http://www.xplanes3d.com/Projects/Vi.../vic_c_06.html
http://www.xplanes3d.com/Projects/Vi..._C_Scene_1.jpg

choctaw111 03-08-2011 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xilon_x (Post 231932)
This project dates back to 1943 and is part of an RAF brief for a 'super bomber' with long range, adequate defensive armament and large bomb-load. The Type 'C' as the name suggests is one of several developments by Vickers in response to this brief (there were many other design from other leading aircraft manufacturers). However, it soon became apparent that at least five years would be needed to fully develop aircraft of this complexity and versatility. Coupled with the success of the Avro Lancaster and advent of practical jet propulsion made this (and the other proposals) redundant.


Span: 64.0m (210' 0") Length: 29.0m (95' 0") Max. Speed: 621 km/h (382 mph)
http://www.xplanes3d.com/Projects/Vi.../vic_c_06.html
http://www.xplanes3d.com/Projects/Vi..._C_Scene_1.jpg


I have never seen this one before.
It has a nice design and I really like it.

The Cheese 03-08-2011 01:35 PM

honestly if they're going to be adding more heavy bombers, they should really start off with the ones that actually saw combat, like the He 177, the Stirling, the Lancaster, and others. I'd especially like to see the He177 Grief, that was an interesting plane

TinyTim 03-08-2011 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xilon_x (Post 231932)

Looking at the center of gravity and center of lift proves intuition can be wrong sometimes. I wouldn't want to be on board of this plane's first flight for all the money in the world.

McHilt 03-08-2011 06:29 PM

Although not extensively used during WWII but serving as a troop transport plane the constellation would be my choice... Most beautiful bird around in the heavy class. Anyone enough time on their hands? :-P

Xilon_x 03-08-2011 06:35 PM

http://myspace.virgin.net/john.dell/webpiccy.JPG

this is real project:
http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturesm/ae68.jpg
http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturesm/ae69.jpg

AVRO 10-ENGINED LANCASTER PROJECT
http://img44.photobucket.com/albums/...ine_bomber.jpg

please read this link:
http://warbirdsforum.com/showthread.php?t=268


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