Collectors edition found!
 

http://sklep.gry-online.pl/kartaprod...campaign=sklep

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/daniel....1541291588.jpg

Must be bullshit.

160 zloties are $53 - that's 30% less than the normal msrp.

looks too good to be true.besides if there is a spitfire manual,there should be one for the bf as well.

hehe yea true.i didnt think about that

And is a pre-order... However, looks very elaborate, perhaps too much for a simple "boutade"...
Interesting!

Interesting...but i would of thought we would get to see something from Oleg much before seeing it there.

fake or not, someone had to make it. i wonder why then.

it looks good. for a possible fake.

interesting indeed

the manual shown is a published work
http://www.books-by-isbn.com/1-84868...868-436-3.html

it's a rather good collection of wartime manuals/leaflets covering some useful stuff. retails in uk for £9.99

wicked.

If it's a fake someone's really worth kudos for it... It also fits well as Luthier asked about paper quality for a map to include in a collectors edition. IF its not take I guess that some marketing guys are really pissed now :)

Still my bet is a fake by some real pro worth a lot of respect!

Edit: the fact that the roundel is wrong (1942+) makes the scam even better as an IL2 nerd would know that but not an AD at Ubusoft ;)

Most interesting part is that if you follow that link, and look at the publishing date Luty 2011 (może ulec zmianie)=February!!! 2011

Cheers!


BP

February 2011 was announced mid 2010...

I guess some people will still find ways to explain this as part of some elaborate conspiracy again, but it's pretty much in line with what was said during Igromir, and with the development we've seen so far. So I don't see why it wouldn't be genuine.

Too bad though that Ubisoft is more or less confirmed now. Not really unexpected but I guess I'm not the only one who still hoped for a different publisher. At least it explains the silence and complete absence of any marketing efforts on the western markets :rolleyes:

Nothing has been confirmed yet of anything from anyone concerning the publisher, or do you have direct contact with Oleg himself?, I would guess not..

You would guess right. However I see several web shops in different countries starting to show box art with the Ubi logo on the same day, and a swiss gaming site quoting a release list they received from Ubi with the name "Cliffs of Dover" before finding out that it's supposed to be the new name for SoW. The only simple explanation I can think of is that they indeed are the publisher ;)

Fake!
Is the name Cliffs of Dover an official name? Not that I know. "IL-2" in the title is definite proof that it's fake.
Also, the image itself is obviously not a photo, if those where real boxes it would have been a photo.
I don't buy it. Figuratively speaking of course.

Cliffs of Dover was the name on the official 1C Igromir video.

Damn it... you're right. Hmm... I wonder why they keep the name IL-2 when there's not even going to be such an aircraft in the simulation, at least not to start with.
Sure it's a known product, but why not just stick with "...from the creators of IL-2 Strurmovik"?

Marketing ;)

It wasn't the team's idea but the publisher's :)

Nice find if genuine !

Everything seems to fit...

IL2 : 1946
IL2 : Wings Of Prey
IL2 : Cliffs of Dover

Oleg's first official update of 2011 would be a great time to announce the release date and publisher.

Looking at the release dates of other big games coming this year then a good time for release so as not to clash with other games is either Feb or mid April.

Roll on Friday!

Well concerning the publisher, it has always pointed towards Ubisoft, maybe not to the likes of people but anyway, I only trust Oleg's word on this one, we'll hear it soon enough if this is true.

It has a nice title for a collectors edition: 'Edition for the few' :)

Even if this isn't the real box, that title is a keeper!
It's strange this photo can already been found at an online shop. I would have thought this was just a work in progress picture from an intern marketing presentation.

anyway, I like this kind of artwork for the collectors box. Only the box for the CD looks a bit to much like a wings of prey picture...

We'll all find out on Friday. It looks real to me.

This is it!

Oleg already told that this would be the title!

Another site with the DVD box


http://www.abcsoftware.ch/desktopdef...ku=UBD07764503

It's genuine gents...I hope that the release date holds.

I hope that Oleg tells us on friday what is going on.

Yes it looks real to me. We should no more Friday and there is an interview with SimHQ which should be out in the near future.

Looks real to me as well.I think we really are on the home stretch now! :)

As to the post above about ubi and cr*p marketing: Exactly!

Large pic of DVD box

pegi 16?
I thought there woudn't be blood or body parts flying around.

The phoney war will soon be over.

It won't? :(

WoW! A random glance at the 1C forums despite not being friday and this nugget of information was posted here!

It looks very real to me and I'll be eating my shorts with zap if this collector box part is a fake! March release would be awesome I hope it sticks!

I'm kind of offended however if this is indeed the way we find out the release details after lurking on the forums for years for any scraps of information on this! But if the story sticks I can live with it! :cool:

What's the source for all this anti-ubisoft talk? I haven't had too bad experiences with them, please enlighten me..

Internet connection required to activate game? :D
Initially or everytime ? :)

The box art here says 12 ??

Ask whiners about publisher <insert name> to say which publisher they like instead... Then wait...

I have no problem with how Ubisoft has handled the IL2 franchise so far (accept maybe the Boonty fiasco ;)). We got a game with support for years with zillions of free patches / addons / extra everything... Sure, it was MG that did the work but Ubisoft must have paid some way for a lot of the time spent on free patches (or Oleg is Santa Claus). People whine about the copy protection on Silent Hunter V and that the game has been "dumbed" down compared to version III/IV, but how many serious sub sims did the other large publishers release the last decade - or simulators at all?

My 2 cents: FAKE.

...any other than Ubisoft. No need for clarifying things more than that.

If you're too blind to see the damage they did with the NG fiasco and SHV (among many) then I feel sorry for you. Let me put it the other way around - you seriously think anyone would want to do a sub sim after how SHV was accepted?

great news
after a long long wait
i feel like my parole has been granted

I don't know why you would be offended. Oleg did hint that the sim would come out early in 2011. You can't blame him for being very vague on the subject. If he says anything about hoping to have SOW completed in any time frame, it always comes back to him as endless whines and diggs about promised release dates.

Ubisoft DRM has drawn much flak, and hopefully they will have found a better way to protect their investment. Unfortunately its a sign of the times. I'm sure the biggest whiners here would do the same thing if it were their monies were being stolen.

ali thor moj prijatelj.... UBI did not develop SoW (or CoD if this is the new name)..." Maddox games did/does ;)
I really couldn't care less who's the publisher really...
...

laku noć...

http://www.wog.ch/index.cfm/details/...liffs-of-Dover

http://www.wog.ch/index.cfm/details/...ectors-Edition

:grin:

Did you use google translate for this? :) I am fully aware that UBI did not develop this, however they have already crippled IL2 with their NG agreement (which I presume still stands, especially if they hold on to the IL2 name).

Which leads me to another question - why isn't there a 1C logo on the box?

If there is a firm release date, collectors boxes, publishers and everything in place that signals concrete last steps on the release I would have expected a friday update with drumroll and fireworks saying that your wait is over etc.

If this is just a hoax of smoke and mirrors like we have seen over the years with people being able to pre-order since 2007 then it's a different story and we're up for a nasty surprise. I wonder how I get so worked up on this rumour as we've seen waves like this come and go over the years but there are some aspects in the air to make me think this might be it.

1) The synchronized update on several sites almost simultaniously
2) Identical and believable pics, IL-2 naming, release dates, collectors boxes etc.
3) Sandy bridge processors hit the stores just a few days ago
4) Tree not here yet saying it won't be out till 2012 despite the topic that should set forum-whine-emergency bells ringing in the his cave
5) etc

If its a hoax its a very elaborate one,and I can't see the point at this late stage.

Oleg has indicated several times that he can't reveal the publisher, because that publisher reserved the right to make that announcement themselves (and it's not far-fetched to think this also applies to release date & system requirements). Should Ubi indeed turn out to be the western publisher, while keeping completely mute about the game so close to release, then this brings us right to the next point:

I'll try to keep it short ;)

• messing up previous sim releases (e.g. Lock On)

• failing to provide substantial marketing for lower profile games

• restrictive always-online DRM

• poor support ("please file a ticket")

• the NG fiasco with Pacific Fighters

• staggered releases over several weeks

• generally treating their customers like idiots

Now to be fair they aren't the only big publisher with such issues, but as long as they include their current DRM it's a no-go for me (in case of SoW - or CoD or whatever we'll end up calling it - I'm actually quite confident it won't be included; at any rate there should be a 1C version available). And if people call me a "whiner" for that, then so be it; I won't turn this into a DRM thread (we all know how that usually ends).

Lol no.. moja žena je 50% hrvatica i 50% njemačka... and I have spent at least 3 weeks every year(summer) in Dalmatia for the past 16 years... even though I speak croatian as a 2 year old, I still understand quite a bit

Yes it is coming and it's about friggin time.

Now have a world class day

Sjajno. Ovo će vjerojatno završit na PM ali svejedno - kad si sl. put u HR bumo na neku pivu otišli. :)


+1

Tree got banned as his input was no longer needed, we all know how he would respond and it was felt that his time could be best spent doing something more constructive than regurgitating the same whines over and over again ;)

I agree.

This can mean only one thing: My order for SB 2600K with GTX 580 and PCI-E SSD juiced with some Ripjaws is going out soon!

Really interesting to see what happens with the friday update!

Not likely a hoax, considering the sim is in the optimization stage, and Luthier mentioning optimizations are going very well.

Well, I'm not saying Ubisoft are "good" in any way - but compared to the others they are not worse when it comes to support for sim titles... Or give me an alternative? Here is the current top ten list (from Wikipedia):

1 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Japan.svg.png Nintendo
2 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png Electronic Arts
3 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.pnghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...France.svg.png Activision Blizzard
4 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...France.svg.png Ubisoft
5 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png Take-Two Interactive
6 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Japan.svg.pnghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png Sony Computer Entertainment
7 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png Bethesda Softworks
8 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png THQ
9 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Japan.svg.png Square Enix
10 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png Microsoft

Select one that would be better as a publisher for SoW?

Regarding the SHV failure I am also disappointed as hell and have played it for some hours only before uninstalling it - but they at least tried doing a sub sim that would please us nerds out there. Did any of the other 10 in the list above try? And what did the "community" do? They whined themselves to death and threatened Ubisoft etc so will they try again?

My own opinion regarding the DRM issue is that I really don't care that much myself if it is a bit intrusive... Like the rest of the industrialized world I have constant Internet connection (like the rest of you) so what is the real problem with an online check accept when running the game on a laptop in a boat? If they remove it before shutting down the validation servers and they work it's fine with me, even though it naturally would be better without it! Making a DRM that really works WILL involve some kind of Internet based validation in some form - sooner or later all publishers will hopefully use some solution that works and the profits will get back to the PC gaming industry so that we will get niche games like this.

/Mazex

The box art styling and Il-2 Sturmovik tag make it look like an add-on for the Wings of Prey series. Something the developers may regret later on.

Different countries different ratings.

http://www.wog.ch/nas/cover_large/pc...liffsdover.jpg

Oh God, please let there be blood. :cool:


It's not up to them.
They are like a factory, they just produce something, the publisher is the retailer, they are in charge of marketing and pricing.

however about the drm, here in teh photo there is an important detail:
internet connectiion required to activate teh game. Does taht suppose that it wont need a consant internet connection?

I'm relatively new here so i wondered what ubisoft do to pacific fighters? aka 'the ng fiasco'

Terrible cover art (although I like the big box set, I'd support the cause if that's available for more dollars).

There was a thread on this forum a while back about cover art and every cobbled-together effort on there looked better than the pictured DVD box.

Wrong roundels FTW! Sigh.

Still, at least it would indicate things are afoot!

Cheers, Spinner

Man! This is real bad! Ever since I got my Hotas WartHog I don't have two zloties to rub together!

The Spitfire box art is indeed something far short of spectacular. I notice the poor spitty hasn't got a spinner either.

I am no LW expert but am pretty sure BoB vintage 109's had fuselage tanks under and behind the pilot not wing tanks.

If that is the case, what is burning in that 109 wing ?

http://www.wog.ch/nas/cover_large/pc...liffsdover.jpg

Good lord, that is just mediocre CGI stuff tossed together to fool you. I can make you something similar in 45 minutes... easy. All he needed was to check this forum for 10 minutes max to know about the general idea, the map and ready he was.

Besides, Oleg would never let such a shoddy screenshot pass as box art.

I normally don’t say much, but this time I must …

Some of you guys are awfully Gullible, I'm calling http://www.cubpilot.com/Tspin/bs.gif

I think you are correct. On both counts :)

I mean really :rolleyes: even the box art & contents of collectors edition are inconsistent, depending on where you look.


http://www.gbase.de/uploads/ci/cbild...ver_113506.jpg


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/daniel....1541291588.jpg

http://www.gbase.de/uploads/ci/cbild...ver_113507.jpg


note the WIP flames and other familiar friday update snaps on the back. different renders of the spit, washed out (scan-proof) barcode, random fonts, absence or presence of logos etc etc...

The first image of these three even has a 12 and 16 rating on the same product! I think whoever creatively knocked this together, as an afterthought revised the hoax with more pleasing boxart, silk map and booklet covers ;p

There you go then. These are just renders of proposed collectors editions. The only thing that can be taken from this is that the developers have somebody working on packaging and presentation ideas. Nothing to see here.

Obviously somebody's working on it! At least I'd hope so :)

I wouldnt put money on this being it though....

IC Russian copy? UBI European copy? Are probably why they are different.

Sure seems like an odd thing to bother faking but whatever...
________
Home made medical marijuana vaporizer

I agree....there are to many different game sites posting the same info.

I got a news letter thing going with my email with the game and I think Chivas is right. After just a few minutes I'm getting websites with the same thing. English speaking now.

http://worthplaying.com/article/2011/1/12/news/79272/

I'm all with you on this one Zorin. Besides, where is the 1C logo, usually found on the box?

but the Publisher might an boxart is often the publisher's domain.

I agree on one thing - this indeed looks like UBI boxart. :)

You mean half@ssed five-minute-job done by the poor trainee from the logistics department? ;)

Precisely that.

Also, some of the images used on the back side of the box look mighty familiar... :D

You boys don't forget to come back later for your large helping of humble pie! ;)

I just find it all a little strange.
The collectors box photo's are obviously mock ups, but could have been done by the publisher. As for the missing 1c logo, it appears that ubi don't put the developers on the front of the box on many (if any) games.

It does kind of look like someones leaked the info, you would expect Ubisofts site to mention this otherwise.

Half of me thinks it's legit and the other half doesn't, suppose we will find out tomorrow.

hopfully Oleg will give us information about it.

It is a mediocre job. Period. No matter who did it, for the combat flight simulator of the next decade I expect a way higher quality in packaging and design.

For a game to come out next month it would mean it is already in gold state - meaning it is about to or will in the next week or so start being copied for February/March release (I didn't look at the date as I still believe this isn't real, not until we get a confirmation from Oleg himself). And then there is a website as well.

Dream on. :D

I couldn't be happier with the final release, but just like Zorin stated - box design looks so much under the quality we have been server with over the past Friday updates.

Cliffs of WTF?

I thought it's an expansion for "Wings of Prey"?

Personally,I don't give a stuff about the box design! All I need is the disc thats IN the box... ;)

That's true, but good box design = more sales = more monies for 1C = more production of 1C flight sims.

That is something we should give a stuff about.

I would bet most sales will be download myself.Where I live its difficult to even find a computer game in the shops.Its all console stuff.
Some people will pay big money for a 'collectors' edition,but most people don't really care about the box.
A map? Probably be able to download one shortly after release.
Pilots notes? Can buy that Spitfire booklet for £10
A big box? My wife will just moan about that. :)

Oh good it's not just mine.. Conversation usually goes
1."What are all these boxes? Why don't you throw them away?"
2."I like the box"
3."But it's just a box"
4."I like the box"
5. Repeat for about 30 mins..
6. Keep box.

They may attach it to the old site.

I've said it before,if it is to be called il2: Cliffs of Dover then we are probably already on the website.

Ha ha that sounds familiar! only point 6. is differant, box lands in the paper bin in 90% of the cases unless it is small.

What does irretate on that picture is no manuel for a Bf 109. Are people only supposed to fly the Spitfire? I mean like, as if that was not the case in IL2 that a majority take to Spits since they have become available.
Well amazon.de still does not have it listed.

I assume there is a similar manual for the 109?

As for why the Spitfire I'd imagine it's marketing at work again, ask anybody who only has cursory knowledge of the Battle of Britain and the only aircraft they are likely to be able to tell you took part was the Spitfire when anybody with any knowledge knows it was just one part of the overall battle.

It's official that Ubisoft is the Publisher. Ubi_Marc, Admin of German IL2 Forum said it is a leak and they wanted to announce it next week. Also he said DRM its just for activation!

http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/...409#9571002409

Maybe we just have a Spitfire Manual, because as I read here

http://www.gbase.ch/Global/news/IL-2...992/47724.html

that solo campaign ist just playing on British side.

We are not going to get a printed manual for every aircraft that is flyable.

Thanks DoorGunner -
-It looks like the real thing

http://www.gbase.ch/uploads/ci/cbild...ver_113507.jpg

http://www.gbase.ch/uploads/ci/cbild...ver_113506.jpg

DRM just for activation is awesome news, I just hope that as a community we pay Oleg back by making sure we all buy it and do not tolerate those who use pirated versions to play with us online as was the case with many IL2 players :(

Yer, but activation how often?
You'll exscuse me if I have little trust for Ubisoft. (SilentHunter1,2,3 and 4 fan)

Just the once after an install I'd guess, much like any game with a key, you enter the key, game goes online to check it's not blacklisted and is valid, game activates and that the job done.

With any luck it's simply Steam they're talking about and nothing on top of that (Ubi recently released RUSE with Steam as the only DRM, so I was mildly optimistic they'd do the same here).

Deutsche SoW forum FTW :)

:grin:!!!

I'd prefer to create an account or something similar, or some could steal your key