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Korsakov829 11-15-2010 04:35 PM

Disc Problems
 
Was just playing a strike game, and I noticed something odd about the game.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1...irdsofprey.png

As you can see, 3/4s of the game has a blur/median filter effect. At first, I blamed my television since it has a long history of problems. But then I noticed the GUI is in perfect condition. I started to wonder if it was my PS3, but it wasn't even a year old. So then I took the disc out, and saw that there was a big, yellow, scratch. And a fingerprint. Cleaned it with water but that made it worse and then used window cleaner. It solved everything, so for those of you who have dirty discs, clean them.

It is interesting what a scratch can do. The rest of the disc was in brand new condition, but that one scratch caused this.

olife 11-15-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Korsakov829 (Post 198513)
Was just playing a strike game, and I noticed something odd about the game.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1...irdsofprey.png

As you can see, 3/4s of the game has a blur/median filter effect. At first, I blamed my television since it has a long history of problems. But then I noticed the GUI is in perfect condition. I started to wonder if it was my PS3, but it wasn't even a year old. So then I took the disc out, and saw that there was a big, yellow, scratch. And a fingerprint. Cleaned it with water but that made it worse and then used window cleaner. It solved everything, so for those of you who have dirty discs, clean them.

It is interesting what a scratch can do. The rest of the disc was in brand new condition, but that one scratch caused this.

thanks for the tip my friend,did t know the quality of window cleaner for this prob before and good to know it now.thx

Robotic Pope 11-15-2010 05:23 PM

And if you ever get a deeper scratch that is effecting the game, you can use brass cleaner to polish it out.

Korsakov829 11-15-2010 05:31 PM

Brass cleaner? Don't know about that but you always could try ammonia.

Robotic Pope 11-15-2010 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Korsakov829 (Post 198548)
Brass cleaner? Don't know about that but you always could try ammonia.

You can even use toothpaste to polish out a scratched disk. The abrasion takes off a very fine layer from the plastic on the disk. Just make sure you rub across the disk not around the disk.

vdomini 11-16-2010 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Korsakov829 (Post 198513)
Was just playing a strike game, and I noticed something odd about the game.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1...irdsofprey.png

As you can see, 3/4s of the game has a blur/median filter effect. At first, I blamed my television since it has a long history of problems. But then I noticed the GUI is in perfect condition. I started to wonder if it was my PS3, but it wasn't even a year old. So then I took the disc out, and saw that there was a big, yellow, scratch. And a fingerprint. Cleaned it with water but that made it worse and then used window cleaner. It solved everything, so for those of you who have dirty discs, clean them.

It is interesting what a scratch can do. The rest of the disc was in brand new condition, but that one scratch caused this.

I don't think disk dust or dirt will affect visual quality in the way you explained. As far as i know, digital information are generally readable OR unreadable, there's nothing in between. Think like writing a book. No matter how the paper is old or ripped, if you are still able to read the words, you will get the the story.
Game data are just "words" written on a scratched disk. If that certain part of the story is unreadable, the system might try to read it again the next disk spin and might be able to succed or fail. Behavior after a read failure vary from system to system, software to software etc...

Analog storing devices, like, audio tape, VHS tapes was more used to that kind of "anaolog decay of information".... every one have noticed how a Vhs movie on tape used to loose the audio/video quality during years.

You should check your tv system, is it a CRT? Plasma? Looks like a refresh problem to me. The gui always overlays on screen in a fixed position, while the 3d world refresh and moves in background. Probably during the time you cleaned your CD, so exited the game and maybe turned tv off, gaved the tv some time that someway changed TV status...

Korsakov829 11-16-2010 12:41 PM

CRT. 10 years old, wires rusty, amazing it still works. Its not a refresh problem though as other games worked fine, as well as TV channels.

Gilly 11-17-2010 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Korsakov829 (Post 198513)
Was just playing a strike game, and I noticed something odd about the game.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1...irdsofprey.png

As you can see, 3/4s of the game has a blur/median filter effect. At first, I blamed my television since it has a long history of problems. But then I noticed the GUI is in perfect condition. I started to wonder if it was my PS3, but it wasn't even a year old. So then I took the disc out, and saw that there was a big, yellow, scratch. And a fingerprint. Cleaned it with water but that made it worse and then used window cleaner. It solved everything, so for those of you who have dirty discs, clean them.

It is interesting what a scratch can do. The rest of the disc was in brand
new condition, but that one scratch caused this.

I'm guessing this is in arcade, judging by the speed shown. Is it therefore a combination of speed/ frame rate that's causing it?

Edit: my bad- it's kph I'm guessing!

P-51 11-17-2010 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 198597)
You can even use toothpaste to polish out a scratched disk. The abrasion takes off a very fine layer from the plastic on the disk. Just make sure you rub across the disk not around the disk.

Don't use toothpaste, its too abrasive.. It can completely destroy the disk. However I would suggest Brass Cleaner, it has worked before!

Korsakov829 11-17-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gilly (Post 198912)
I'm guessing this is in arcade, judging by the speed shown. Is it therefore a combination of speed/ frame rate that's causing it?

Edit: my bad- it's kph I'm guessing!

Simulator. KM/H for speed and meters for height.
I saw something else weird just now. On the Ardennes, Night, Hazy, there is a big black spot always above the moon.

dkwookie 11-17-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Korsakov829 (Post 198952)
Simulator. KM/H for speed and meters for height.
I saw something else weird just now. On the Ardennes, Night, Hazy, there is a big black spot always above the moon.

That's no moon, it's a space station :)

KAV 11-17-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dkwookie (Post 198964)
That's no moon, it's a space station :)

Thats right dkwookie, and to find out more about it, one need to go here:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=16202

Gilly 11-17-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dkwookie (Post 198964)
That's no moon, it's a space station :)

Genius mate! Coffee on keyboard moment!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVekN...e_gdata_player


And as far as the 'death star' glitch goes it happens on most maps at night, just depends on viewing angle.
And if you want even more wierd try shooting the sun......

dkwookie 11-17-2010 03:53 PM

Come to think of it the blur effect on the right side of Korsakovs picky looks like the star field blur when the falcon jumps to hyperspace

Korsakov829 11-17-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gilly (Post 198971)
...And if you want even more wierd try shooting the sun.........

But that was put in by the developers, no glitch about it.

Robotic Pope 11-17-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by P-51 (Post 198915)
Don't use toothpaste, its too abrasive.. It can completely destroy the disk. However I would suggest Brass Cleaner, it has worked before!

Thats nonsense. Toothpaste is nowhere near abrasive enough to destroy a disk, you'd have no teeth left if it was lol. In the past Ive fixed scratched PS2 dvds with toothpaste. I also fixed my Halo 2 disk and Dead or Alive 3 disk for the xbox1 with brasso.

KAV 11-17-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 199001)
Thats nonsense. Toothpaste is nowhere near abrasive enough to destroy a disk, you'd have no teeth left if it was lol. In the past Ive fixed scratched PS2 dvds with toothpaste. I also fixed my Halo 2 disk and Dead or Alive 3 disk for the xbox1 with brasso.


Why do you scratch tem up in the first place, dont you have covers for them :rolleyes:

Robotic Pope 11-17-2010 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KAV (Post 199002)
Why do you scratch tem up in the first place, dont you have covers for them :rolleyes:

All Second hand, except for halo2 which was allways getting eaten by my old xbox. I think the disk was not quite flat enough.

dkwookie 11-17-2010 07:07 PM

I would only use toothpaste if it removes those annoying rear gunners from between the airfields


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