Friday 2010-10-15 Dev. update and Discussion
 

Today, as I told already in a topic of 2010-10-08 - small update on a previous build.
Just 5 screen shots.
Anyway I think someone will find interesting new details.

GREAT!! Thanks very much Oleg,
I like the terrain very much, it seems as if we will be able to properly detect landmarks and ground targets very well!


PS: I'm the first!!!

Thanks Oleg.

No, the first was me :)

Oleg!! Thanks for the screens!! The IAs "bla bla" seems a lot better and much more informative!!

Question: New ground textures?

You sly dog, you ;)

Nice update - the communications look out of this world!

The speech is totally different. The new generator.

textures the same. Simply more powerfull PC :):):)
And yes... still not final :):):):):)
You should wait for final looking ground :):):)

Dammit!

I don't even get bronze!

Fantastic screens and great! Now you can order individual attacks!

Never seen that:grin:

Fifth .. if we count Oleg :-)

edit: two got here before I could post. Do you people ever sleep?

Wow, great shot's, the coast line looks very nice as well... In my mind I was second reply 2...I'm in before all the whining has begun :grin:

Good shots.

Am I right in believing that the machine on which the screens were taken was not that good?


Oleg, are you building a new build for special reason?

Still better then a cup of coffee! :D

hello, great detail!!! even in the radio chatter,it looks like we will have much greater interaction with AI during the flight.thanks

Every week the game looks better!

:grin:

Terrain look great, and the fire from the first pics :) :) :)

DX11 ? ?? ? on some shoot

tks :)

Yes, but I should or can't tell for which :):):)

Oleg :)

From Pic one. In text did axis fighter pilots say also 'Tally ho'? I always thought it came from English aristocracy, from fox hunting element?

Towns looking great!

S

dx10

:grin::grin::grin:

Thanks Oleg for taking the effort to post.

Which DX version were these shots from?

but which colour ? ? .. Gold ? ;)

Finally sharp terrain textures from altitude! Cities and their background look excellent, neat little details like street lamps. For the best looking terrain screenshots so far.

Thanks for the answer Oleg!! Have a nice Weekend!

Sorry, quick posts while I was typing.

Forgot to say that it looks very good. Very high scenery density, loving the clouds too.

Thanks.

In German language they speaks other. Its a "traslation" of German speech

If you remember In Il-2 Germans ware saying sometime the word Scheise.... but it wasn't traslated directly in English or Russian, or any other language that were supporting later in Il-2 :):):)

Oleg: Is it possible to land the aircraft in a typical field and then take off again like in IL-2, or are players going to be limited to airstrips and possibly roadways? Do different ground areas allow for different surface types? I remember a pic of a spitfire in a wheat field, but has that changed?

Another thing, that first picture got me thinking, can ordinance blow up due to the aircraft being on fire? Say your bomber is on fire, you do a landing that leaves it intact, can on-board bombs explode if the aircraft continues to burn? Or do all aircraft burn the IL-2 way? (burn->explode)

I really love the lighting and the hints at the advanced (formation level!!!) AI. I can't describe how impressed I am.

Will it be possible to edit AI? Or is that still a complete unknown?

P.S. Will it be possible to add some transparency to the edges of the smaller tree LoDs? This doesn't matter in the current shots, but under some lighting conditions it could make a big difference (keeping them from looking like cut outs with solid edges.

Wow terrain/buildings look awesome Oleg!

I see varying elevations in the terrain, looks a lot better!

Can't wait till next week!

Thanks Oleg! Have a good weekend. =)

S!

Thank you for the update. Nice things to be seen..One of Hurricanes has chipped paint where the other looks new. Tear & Wear at work maybe?

Lets wait for these answers when I will know all details of release version (what is and what was removed temporary)

Amazing!

Shot 2 looks photo realistic to me. It almost could be a photo. :-)

This game is going to be legendary.

Is that a golf course I see? :)

I'm pretty sure that "tally ho" was commonly used by RAF pilots in WWII when about to engage the enemy.

Oleg - brilliant shots - the sea textures are 100%!!! - I reckon the fire in the first screenshot (the Blenheim?) is fantastic/perfect! And of course, the sun reflecting off perspex etc is awesome! Thanks for the update!

wow nice!

i hate so much that red arrows°!!!!
the screenshots is exacttly that i was expecting! very nice. is a shine the extra exported jpg. very pixelated!

nice small updaatee mr Mddx

Ah understand now :)

So that'd be the diplomatic translation, eh? ;) :)

New clouds look very good also!

S

verry nice.
Is this a different season?
the map looks less colourfull than in previous updates, espacially compared to the beautiful aircraft.
Maybe it's because of the altitude, or tod.
You can see more details in the ground. :)
I like the radio chatter from the AI, but I think I will go to the conf.ini and turn the subtitles of :-P
incredible little details like street lamps, and chimney smokes.

in late 2009 there was an update with traffic, but I haven't seen it in the in-game shots. Will it be in the initial release, or is it canceled?

These shots really show how the "texture" of SOW is shaping up. The small details, the lighting, the rolling countryside with widely varying fields, the abso-freaking-lutely beautiful aircraft, are coming together nicely.

You must be pretty proud of your baby, Oleg.

Oleg,
Is the ground detail close to finished, or still polishing to do?

Looking great! Very hi res images in 2560 x 1600. Must be quite a beast of a machine to play at that resolution.

Is that a golf course in the second picture at the bottom?

lol @ Dano - beat me to it :)

Storm of War the final tee! :)

It's always worth reading Olegs posts...

Great screens thanks!
I already made my Santa Claus whish list!

BTW can we see your new office building??

ok - I'll ask...

Oleg, will we have animated golfers teeing off, and will it be possible to get hit by golfballs if you do a low pass over the course? ;) :o

Great work.

Thanks.

nice spot to crash land - just try to avoid the bunker on the 14th...
I'll keep a 9-iron in my Spit just in case....

This weeks' theme - golfing jokes.....

I think there's a also another one a bit closer to the town in the centre of the image! :)

I hope there's a few cricket grounds dotted about the place as well! :)

Oleg: When we'll encounter enemy planes, will friendly AI tells us at 1st ''enemy plane''(not knowing what type it is) and only identifying them only when they'll get closer?

And nice work btw :)

Finally! Golf made interesting:

"Bill Page is preparing to tee off on this difficult par 4 hole, but wait! A Messerschmidt is coming down the fairway on a strafing run!!"

@BadAim

Yes, only difference is the eagles are aiming at you - not the other way round!

Took a closer look at this image...

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...0&d=1287150715

simply incredible!

The city looks like a real city, all it needs is some people and cars to make it complete. Their is enough variety in buildings one barely sees the repeated ones.

The Bf 110 name tags include unit codes, talk about detail!

Rolling hills in distance only make it more like real life.

Behind the puffy clouds looks like some cirrus types as well (high alt striped types).


The 2 items I do not like (even if other games have it)
1. Red and Blue arrows pointing to units. WW2 pilots had nothing like that, so it simply destroys all that beautiful world.

2. Range number (see the 3.7, 3.35) The high resolution monitors today offers a much better judge of distance. New players may benefit, but for full realism arenas can they be turned off?

BTW, Oleg.

THANKS! for your weekly posting!

My 6 years son like it very much. From all flying games he found it the best solution (understood from the first try).
Next update I will sho photo of my sone playing fligth sims.

Its one of the tests :)

What was good in Il-2 shouldn't be ignored.

Also... You may play without them isn't it? For this pupose there is other settings of complexity. But we need to satisfy a lot of user's interests... from real novices to the hardcore fans.

Will we be able to choose between DX9, DX10 and DX11 in game?

I wonder is difference in performance between them big? I mean in frames per second and similar? Like 100 frames with DX9 and 10 with DX11.

Probably I answered above for your question. ;)

I think the game define what is better and run under proper DX :)

I think it's great Oleg that you have designed with broader audience in mind. It's always good to have the options, that can be turned off it you don't need / like them.

My Son is looking forward to playing this, but will need it simplified or he'll get bored quickly.

Going??


Pffffff!

It ALREADY IS legendary!

Oleg,

if you down an enemy over populated area such as you show in these shots, will the buildings show damage?

In other words, I must buy new computer :)

Yes it is, it's about 1/2 way between Dover and Deal on the east coast, just south of Kingsdown.

Yes you did.

I can understand you completely, and that is smart plan.

As long different servers/arenas exist for different skill levels, I will be joyous!! :)

S!

Oleg,

another question you probably can't answer....

in DX11 mode do you use "instancing" to offload scenery processing or provide even more dense scenery at no extra cost? Perhaps even for multiple versions of same aircraft?

It is really excellent and very promising...thank you Oleg!

That would be nice to see a bit of the French side and German airfields...or big guns! I know I am dreaming a bit there...:-):-):-)

JVM

Yes

I really like the sea textures, but frankly the ground textures, the colors... all this looks so strange !!!

Oleg,

Wow. Great pictures! And these are from an OLD build. You can notice the terrain looks more crisp, more detailed in these shots over the others. Also the ground textures aren't as bright, very good coloring!

All I really want to see or should I say hear now is some sound! Would be nice to hear some flybys, or some guns firing. It will really add to the feel.

Server is defining the settings for all connected.. doesn't matter what user tried to set on his own side.

Like with original Il-2 users will set own servers with what they like to set... and any groups of interests will be fairly satisfied.

I will ask our sound engineer to preprare maybe something for the next updates in time.

WOW:o. There will be very chaotic and informative dogfights with all that information which is yelled on the radio! Just like in real life.

Question: Will you be able to hear the enemy on the radio when the radio's are on the same frequency?

Thank you!

Thanks Oleg, but without video shots, it is still bittersweet happiness.

Thank you guys so much for a wonderful update !! :grin:

For any new thing is the right time. I told already.

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Oleg already said they were very busy building a new version, just be grateful for what he has done and please keep those sort of comments to yourself.

I really like the last couple of shots, the towns are looking quite convincing now. Thanks for the update.

This means that DX11 will be too?

the speech, and i am assuming the command system looks much more thorough, hopefully with the new system the Ai will spend more time doing as you command than trying to poach your hard won victories :) the reflectionsof the sun on the canopy of the Hurri look fantastic, it will be great if this is represented at range as well, from what i have read on many occasions the first telltail of enemy aircraft was the glint of sunlight off their canopies in the distance. great work Oleg and crew.

Cheers
Craig

Yes of course

I'll get this one, Ahem:

already said

LOL, I type too slow!

Thanks for answering questions and for the update, Oleg.

Very nice update as always!!!

As a player of online wars, I'm wondering if it would be possible to have an option to paint the rudders of our plan a certain color (could be server side activated). This would be great to spot your wingman in a battle.

It may not be historical... but in an online war... we a re-writing history...

The thing I find most interesting is the radio chatter. Yes, the pictures are wonderful, but the chatter hints at some gameplay that is simply not available in IL-2. Wingmen are calling out which planes/flights they are going after...so that could mean that you could assign them to certain tasks.

It may take some time to figure out how to control your wingmen with that much control. VERY nice!

Splitter

This is possible in Il-2 original. And everybody will see you own skin. Why not in BoB?
Il-2 still has a lot of things that in many games simply absent. Why not in BoB?

Looking better than ever, Oleg.

Some interesting details - lamp posts, chimney pots, balcony railings:
http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/a.../LampPosts.jpg
If any horrible hun Heinkel tries to bomb this, I'll fill the bounder with lead!

I see the screens are shot at 2560x1600 rez. I wonder if there will be an up-tick in the purchase of 30 inch monitors now? :D I better start playing the lottery again! :)
Nice screens for a WIP, btw.
Flyby out

I will ask our sound engineer to preprare maybe something for the next updates in time.


This would be very nice, thanks a lot Oleg

Just one note. In this case the speech is neccessary to rewrite completely or use the same actors with the additions of new planes in game.... or use the place holders...
Say in Il-2 it was more universal thing and traslated withut problems in a lot of languages.
Here it will be more complex and expencive task....

I don't want to rain on your parade, but the towns don't look convincing, at least to me : too many repetitive buildings and difficult to imagine the final product without AA on these screenshots.
The ground textures look still very crude and the colors have changed from being too vivid to get too much pastel.
It it's said all this is just placeholder for the final textures, ok.
I'm waiting too for some DX11 pics, because these screens still look too much cartoonish. To say the truth, some of the latest maps for IL2 (which I still play with big pleasure) look better.
But I understand it's WIP.

Ok. After AI speech and ground it is other nice new detial that never shown before. Good findings! :)

Thanks for the update Oleg!
All is looking very good and it's exciting to follow development and reveal of new features.. No no, I'm not sucking up hoping to get a beta release early.. no no no! ;) :grin:

Don't you think that representation of colors depending of lighting/shading? I don't think that even one other sim has such things modelled better if modelled at all.

Even it isn't final on our side, but can you show me better in WWII sim (or WWI), except the photo? And that will looks from all distances well? Say from zero to 25 Km altitude? The last feature you will be not able to find for a long enough time I think....

Repetative buildings are neccessary. Or we will have to do 5 years more or by other way - ask you to wait for the more power PC.
Anyway we have more types of buildings than in any other military sim for the current moment I think.
Simply you should understand that more visible at once _different_ objects on the ground - more power we need for calculation.

Great stuff, thanks for the update Oleg.

So then :roll:, when er, is it, erm, going to be released :smile:

"Originally Posted by ChrisDNT
I don't want to rain on your parade, but the towns don't look convincing, at least to me : too many repetitive buildings and difficult to imagine the final product without AA on these screenshots.
The ground textures look still very crude and the colors have changed from being too vivid to get too much pastel.
It it's said all this is just placeholder for the final textures, ok.
I'm waiting too for some DX11 pics, because these screens still look too much cartoonish. To say the truth, some of the latest maps for IL2 (which I still play with big pleasure) look better.
But I understand it's WIP."

Dont worry about this people, Oleg. They don´t have idea what they are saying...
But...

Im leaving my eyes trying to find in this photo what you said!!!... please!! answer it or I´ll go to oculist!! ;-)

Thank you Oleg for this update :) It is really amazing to see it developing and later to see the final picture. I ll save my holidays for the release of SoW:BoB!

The hurricane exhauster looks really perfect :!:

I hope the clouds will be reworked in final version or future update. Just a few weeks ago I flew from london to germany in the early moring. I saw many different "layers" of clouds. Many looked so unnatural that I thought I am in game ;) I ll upload a vid of this flight later. Very nice colors I can promise.

Oleg,

about the voices for comms, have you considered asking the community (us) for contributions? I wouldn't be surprised if members from the UK (and Canada, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa) and Germany and Austria wouldn't be happy to contribute to providing their voices to SoW:BoB.

I realize that this might be difficult to organize (and do quality control), but I would imagine that there would be a lot of volunteers... Just a thought.


I *LOVE* the city shots! They are looking really great and I can't wait to see them populated with the models of buses and cars you've already shown...

Thanks again,
C_G

Hey Olegg,

Want to get the community involved and get the voices you need on the cheap? Send out scripts to native speakers of the languages you need...you probably have them all represented here. No pay, strictly voluntary, recorded on MP3 format or such. Choose the ones you want to use and not have to pay the actors :).

BTW, I LOVE that you are paying so much attention to the communications in game. Such gameplay items are as important to many of us as the graphics. So thank you.

Splitter

Humm!!
Trees in town??

What?:confused:

I think when the sim will be reelased we may organize the flow of implementation for different languages speeches in the frame of speech model we are using. I mean user made.

If it will be good enough, why not to program New Zeeland or other contries in future.
Currently we are limited in resourses that to put from the beginning all the possible in BoB speeches.

Oleg,

I think some people simply don't understand the trade-offs you have to make between graphical detail, frame rate, AI, physics, damage modelling, Sound processing, game environment etc.

:mrgreen: Toché!


In other words, dear chris: Stfu and be grateful.