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Korsakov829 10-14-2010 07:20 PM

Identify this
 
I was recently flying around Deal in Kent, and was traveling along the coastline when I found this.
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1...irdsofprey.png
Its a cannon obviously, a little charred. Any known history on this?

KAV 10-14-2010 07:33 PM

I saw that one too.
Dunno what it is, but I will try to make it look like dkwookies sheep during the weekend.

Davedog74 10-14-2010 07:50 PM

its not winnie or pooh?the channel guns ,id be impressed if it was

bobbysocks 10-14-2010 07:57 PM

i'm with dave...channel gun for shipping or AA. there was a documentary on 2 guys digging around an old RAF airfield. they came up with a couple gun emplacements.....same, same??

KAV 10-14-2010 08:00 PM

You will fond it some few miles up the valley from dover. On the westernside. A bit far from the channel to be a channel gun.

bobbysocks 10-14-2010 08:08 PM

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ok....Bofors 40mm AA. did a quickie search and came up with these. close enough for government work.

Korsakov829 10-14-2010 09:02 PM

Go look at it in game. Just follow the coast north untill you see a black dot. Its not directly on the shore, about 5 B-17s away. This gun is burned and ruined, and has a breach. There is only one. It seems to small to be a coastal gun. It looks like a 76mm anti tank gun.

JOED70 10-14-2010 09:58 PM

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My pick is this is a howlitzer 105 MM

Davedog74 10-15-2010 10:27 AM

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in 1940 we only had 2 guns capable of hitting france ,they were 14.5 inch
they would of been in the dover area,they took out a german channel gun in france, aa gun sites were in fours or eights,in 1940 mostly 4.5 inch
pic 1 is whinnie ,pic 2 is a heavy aa site in essex with 8 emplacements i visited last year,still with wooden ammo racking(pic3)

Korsakov829 10-16-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JOED70 (Post 189617)
My pick is this is a howlitzer 105 MM

It could be a M114 but I doubt it. Its bullet shield and its long barrel, not likely to be a howitzer. I think it might be a QF 6. Did they think they could seriously hit a ship from that distance with that?

winny 10-16-2010 11:09 PM

Q.F 3.7 inch AA gun maybe? With a shield?

Korsakov829 10-16-2010 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by winny (Post 190402)
Q.F 3.7 inch AA gun maybe? With a shield?

If its an AA gun its a crappy one at that. How does it point towards the sky?

bobbysocks 10-17-2010 06:50 AM

i will try to dig into this this week. but there is another option...it was a training gun or site. not far from where i live they used to train artillery troops and test guns....shooting them into the horizontal shaft of an old mine.

Korsakov829 10-17-2010 01:24 PM

Thats one way of looking at it.

Davedog74 10-17-2010 06:14 PM

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i had a look,as korsakov said fly north along the coast until your wings are level with sandwich on the map,look down to the left its 100 yards in from beach,its tiny and broken
maybe a 2 pounder,i landed next to it,but screenshot wont upload (edit took camera phone shot of screen )

Korsakov829 10-17-2010 06:25 PM

The barrel is too long and the shield too round like to be a 2 or 18 pounder. Its no howitzer for sure.

Davedog74 10-17-2010 06:31 PM

i couldnt see a shield,maybe it symbolises the withdrawal from dunkirk??

Korsakov829 10-17-2010 06:35 PM

The shield is there, just need to get a Po-2 and fly low and around it.

bobbysocks 10-17-2010 06:39 PM

is this a different one from the one kav was talking about?

"You will fond it some few miles up the valley from dover. On the westernside. A bit far from the channel to be a channel gun. "

AA guns had shields...look at the one pic of that bofors 40.

Korsakov829 10-17-2010 06:41 PM

The shield is enclosed so it cant point towards the air. Thats why I ruled it out. You can make out a viewing port on the picture, most AA guns didn't really need this unless used as a anti tank weapon.

Davedog74 10-17-2010 06:47 PM

im lost,the one in my shot has no sheld,im parked next to it,but this one wouldn't be the one kav mentioned

Korsakov829 10-17-2010 07:18 PM

You took your shot from the side.

winny 10-17-2010 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Korsakov829 (Post 190564)
The shield is enclosed so it cant point towards the air. Thats why I ruled it out. You can make out a viewing port on the picture, most AA guns didn't really need this unless used as a anti tank weapon.

It does look like an anti tank gun now you mention it.. But the barrel length seems a bit AA also, maybe it's not British?

It's a good find though!

Korsakov829 10-17-2010 07:46 PM

Yeah maybe its not British maybe is a Soviet ZiS-2? Too bad we can't get a develeoper to answer this for us.

Davedog74 10-17-2010 08:02 PM

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another view with spit for size comparison ,and a french puteaux 25mm which looks a bit like it

Korsakov829 10-17-2010 08:07 PM

Nice close up with the Spitfire. Its a Pak40! Has to be, perhaps dropped in?

bobbysocks 10-17-2010 08:11 PM

from what i have read from around 1917 defenses were set up from dover up to sandwich. most were 40 bofors and 3.7 and 4.5 guns. the one dave found looks closer to the 3.7. with a muzzle break...the 4.5 has uprights on either side of the barrel. other than that i cant find who other than a scottish outfit was in the area. it was on a direct course from france to london so could have been along one of the "buzzbomb alleys". perhaps the devs just put a gun there because there was one in the area. here's a couple of sites with pics. might try bombing it next time and see what happens...easter egg??

that is a better pic, dave. hmmmm


http://www.accurate-armour.com/ShowP...7&product=1834

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-GhqhUKRVU



http://www.accurate-armour.com/ShowP...17&product=676

Davedog74 10-17-2010 08:18 PM

by the size of it ,look likes a small field weapon

winny 10-17-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Korsakov829 (Post 190602)
Nice close up with the Spitfire. Its a Pak40! Has to be, perhaps dropped in?

Pak40 is a good shout. Wheels fit.

Theres a load of WWII artillery here

Korsakov829 10-17-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by winny (Post 190616)
Pak40 is a good shout. Wheels fit.

Theres a load of WWII artillery here

It looks alot like it. But how would it every get into the UK? Perhaps a developer accidently placed it.


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