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Kwiatek 09-18-2010 12:25 PM

"Bloody Foreigners" - great film about Polish pilots during BOB
 
It is great story about Polish pilots who fought in RAF during BOB time and whole WW2. They fought for freedom althought most of them did not live to see her. Great but sad story.

S!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzEkL5n7gXA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJpI-...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pmC7...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W83Kv...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yHY8...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b2W5...eature=related

Rodolphe 09-18-2010 01:11 PM

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Thanks Kwiatek, very emotional documentary.






Love the Tea & Biscuits scene with Ludwik Paszkiewicz, finishing with that "Well Done". :grin:





Quote:

Suddenly the air was full of burning aircraft , parachutes and pieces of disintegrated wings.
It was rapid, it was staggering.


My God ! They are doing it !
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TYCZYW01 09-18-2010 01:47 PM

Great movie, greetings from Poland:)

Xilon_x 09-18-2010 03:02 PM

the english pilots % what is?
POLAND %
HUGARIAN%
ENGLISH%
for poland and hugarian pilots the difficolty is learn english lenguagge.

zapatista 09-18-2010 04:03 PM

good story of polish fighters heroism against overwhelming odds, and well told

thx for posting it :)

zakkandrachoff 09-18-2010 05:02 PM

and what about Argentine Pilots on the RAF ?
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/a...pilots-RAF.jpg

bf-110 09-18-2010 11:52 PM

Didn´t knew you particpated on the war...But we had Pierre Clostermann.

Also,there´s a good movie too about czechs on RAF,Dark Blue World.

Wanted to know how was the slovakin presence on Luftwaffe.

Flying Pencil 09-19-2010 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bf-110 (Post 182591)
Didn´t knew you particpated on the war...But we had Pierre Clostermann.

Also,there´s a good movie too about czechs on RAF,Dark Blue World.

Wanted to know how was the slovakin presence on Luftwaffe.

Yes, "Dark Blue World", excellent movie.

Also look at "A Piece of Cake", 6 part series based by Derek Robinson book. In latter half a American chap joins the crowd, and then toward the end was a little "misunderstand" with some Polish chaps.
Not strictly about the invited pilots, but more of a big picture story, and a bit depressing because it does not pull the punches.

BLR_Tonin_fr 09-19-2010 08:32 AM

Many thanks !

Yes It reminds me "DARK BLUE WORLD" movie too !

Xilon_x 09-19-2010 10:33 AM

yes sorry my error
RAF pilot not original english pilots
but mix pilots.
POLAND
CZECHS
FRANCE
and also argentina i not have this information.mmmm very strange.
ENGLISH

what is total pilots % ?
Eglish pilots are 30%?

Barnowl 09-19-2010 11:11 AM

there are 2,946 pilots credited with flying in the Battle of Britain, of these 574 were not British. That is 19.5%. Poland had the most at 145, New Zealand next with 135 followed by Canada with 112.

Rodolphe 09-19-2010 01:02 PM

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The nationalities of Fighter Command

A substantial contingent of more than 500 pilots from countries other the United Kingdom flew with their British counterparts in the Battle of Britain.
The international mix of participants - defined by their flying at least one authorized operational sortie with an eligible unit between 10 July and 31 October 1940 - is as follows.
  • Great Britain 2353
  • Poland 139
  • New Zealand 98
  • Canada 86
  • Czechoslovakia 84
  • Belgium 29
  • Australia 21
  • South Africa 20
  • France 13
  • Ireland 10
  • United States 7
  • Jamaica 2
  • Egypt 1
  • Austria 1
  • Iceland 1
  • Palestine Mandate 1
  • Southern Rhodesia 1
  • Unknown 4


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ATAG_Dutch 09-19-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodolphe (Post 182704)
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The nationalities of Fighter Command[*]Unknown 4[/LIST]

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I was unaware of any Argentinian involvement, could these be the unknown 4?

WTE_Galway 09-20-2010 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Barnowl (Post 182691)
there are 2,946 pilots credited with flying in the Battle of Britain, of these 574 were not British. That is 19.5%. Poland had the most at 145, New Zealand next with 135 followed by Canada with 112.

Its not just the pilots that were non British.

Remember that Air Vice Marshal Keith Park was from the Colonies ... a New Zealander.

zakkandrachoff 09-20-2010 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodolphe (Post 182704)
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The nationalities of Fighter Command

A substantial contingent of more than 500 pilots from countries other the United Kingdom flew with their British counterparts in the Battle of Britain.
The international mix of participants - defined by their flying at least one authorized operational sortie with an eligible unit between 10 July and 31 October 1940 - is as follows.
  • Great Britain 2353
  • Poland 139
  • New Zealand 98
  • Canada 86
  • Czechoslovakia 84
  • Belgium 29
  • Australia 21
  • South Africa 20
  • France 13
  • Ireland 10
  • United States 7
  • Jamaica 2
  • Egypt 1
  • Austria 1
  • Iceland 1
  • Palestine Mandate 1
  • Southern Rhodesia 1
  • Unknown 4


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mmm, don't you miss some argentine pilots?
i am not a supernationalist but only put some data. I dont know the numbers of Arg pilots

Some of the pilots were native Argentines, while the surnames of others reveal they were descended from British professionals who had helped develop the country's railways, mines and farms.

Ricardo Moreno, 89, said: "The Argentines had the advantage that they were very sports-minded. They were good. They did very well in Britain because they were used to roughing it."
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0bb2hoSLX-...ampero%2BI.jpg

164 Strike.The Argentine Flying Officer Ronald Sheward (RAFVR) flying his Hurricane IV FJ-B (KX540) of the 164 Argentine Squadron of the RAF, strike over the Hansweert Channel (The Netherlands) on September 2, 1942.
http://www.aviationart.com.ar/galeri...ward%20L_R.jpg

airmalik 09-21-2010 01:28 AM

I found out only recently that there were a few Indian pilots in the RAF as well.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Hi...PilotsRAF.html

Few people realise that a number of Indian pilots took part in operations from England. At the height of the Battle of Britain, 24 Indian pilots were sent to the UK to under go conversion training and participate in Ops. Even though they could take part only after the Battle of Britain, many of them distinguished themselves flying operations with the various commands.

Battle of Britain's last surviving Indian Pilot:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/kent/hi/...00/8872500.stm

KnightFandragon 09-21-2010 06:23 PM

Dang, I usually laugh at the 303 squadron when I see it in the line up in IL2, after seeing that vid there, they are some bad asses =D Nice

EvilMonkee 09-22-2010 12:10 AM

You have to be careful over what is defined as the Battle. Yes, there were Argentine Sqn in the RAF (their Sqn number escapes me) but they did not take part in the BoB and fought from around 1942 onwards.

Flanker35M 09-23-2010 07:16 AM

S!

Interesting video. Could have gone a bit deeper into things, but even as it is now gave nicely information propably not known to many. Saddest thing was to see how Poland was shafted so many times, by both Allies and enemy. First was the promise from England that they will help if Germany invades. Well, Russia did too and England could not do a thing.

Next thing you know is that both KZ-Adolf and Gulag-Josif are molesting Poland to their hearts content and many pilots get thru Europe to fly with RAF so they can help their homeland after war. So far so good. At Yalta conference Allies agree that Europe should be liberated but left to grow in democracy, that no troops should be left there permanently. Gulag-Josif nods his head with fingers crossed behind his back and shafts Poland again 1944 at Warszaw uprising, when promising to help Polish against Germans. Well, they watched the show across the river and then "liberated" Poland and put it under a communist puppet regime without an intention to leave Poland or rest of the "liberated" East-Europe at end of WW2.

End of WW2..where can the Polish pilots go? Brits do not want/need them anymore or acknowledge them so they won't upset Gulag-Josif. At their homeland they have no future and many end up dead if returning or as outsiders or have to flee abroad. So truly what the Polish pilot said: We have lost the war. Extremely sarcastic writing but based on historical facts.

Splitter 09-23-2010 01:49 PM

True post!

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Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 183856)
S!

Interesting video. Could have gone a bit deeper into things, but even as it is now gave nicely information propably not known to many. Saddest thing was to see how Poland was shafted so many times, by both Allies and enemy. First was the promise from England that they will help if Germany invades. Well, Russia did too and England could not do a thing.

Next thing you know is that both KZ-Adolf and Gulag-Josif are molesting Poland to their hearts content and many pilots get thru Europe to fly with RAF so they can help their homeland after war. So far so good. At Yalta conference Allies agree that Europe should be liberated but left to grow in democracy, that no troops should be left there permanently. Gulag-Josif nods his head with fingers crossed behind his back and shafts Poland again 1944 at Warszaw uprising, when promising to help Polish against Germans. Well, they watched the show across the river and then "liberated" Poland and put it under a communist puppet regime without an intention to leave Poland or rest of the "liberated" East-Europe at end of WW2.

End of WW2..where can the Polish pilots go? Brits do not want/need them anymore or acknowledge them so they won't upset Gulag-Josif. At their homeland they have no future and many end up dead if returning or as outsiders or have to flee abroad. So truly what the Polish pilot said: We have lost the war. Extremely sarcastic writing but based on historical facts.


Kwiatek 09-23-2010 03:46 PM

Sad story, great heros but history were not merciful to them. So Salute for their memory!

Here is something for cheer up :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJKC6DQnBzc&NR=1

Look at some Spits in video they have 303 Squadron sing - " RF "


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