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what is the offical name of this new sim?
hi all,
I was surveying / following up discussions on this board for a while now. And, as many of you, il-2 sturmovik fans, i just can't wait for this new sequel to be up and released! :-P But, i just got a bit confused,... what will be the official / final name of the sim? "Storm Of War" ? "Battle of Britain" ?? "il-2 Battle Of Britain" ??? and, since we seem to be "so close" to the announced / estimated date of release, some questions are bothering me, such as: why there is still no official dedicated main web-site for this sim???? where is the PC-DVD "artwork" box cover? why none of the popular websites such as gamespot.com, simhq.com, combatsim.com, avsim.com and many others are not referencing it and even they have never ever heard about this highly anticipated combat flightsim ? :confused: is it going to be available to purchase online through STEAM? :o anyways, thank you very much, keep up the great work, and i hope to see it released as soon as possible! :) regards, highness |
If I remember correctly...
Way back when (meaning I cant remember exactly when, but it was shortly after the "IL2 1946" DVD came out...which included our first look at "SoW" Mark 1), Oleg said that he wanted to hold a contest, the aim of which was to come up with a "NEW" name for the series... People put up a whole thread full of names, but I don't remember if the issue was ever resolved by Oleg. I do seem to remember that Oleg found an artist he liked (for the box art)...but again this was some time ago. If your curious, the thread I speak of was hosted at the "Ubi zoo"... so for all I know, the original thread has been locked or deleted by the good people of Ubi. |
I dont think there is any rush for a dedicated website at the momemnt because there isn't too much to show, i would imagine once we start seeing some video from a finshed game then the marketing process will kick in. Its now obvious to even the most diehard Oleg worshippers that SOW is still a way off, but the screenshots are very encouraging and Oleg and Luthier are certainly responding to some of the feedback so Im certain the finished product will be fantastic and well worth the wait. :grin:
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So far as I know "Storm of War" (SOW) will be the name of the new series of flight sims. The first installment, will be Storm of War: Battle of Britain. Plans are to continue making add-ons to the sim just like IL2. Luthier and his boys have already started a Korean War add-on, and the speculation is that the next thing Oleg's team will work on is the Mediterranean.
I recall all of the sites you mentioned having articles and interviews at some point. I believe Sim HQ even has a forum. All the rest will come in time. Maddox Games has a style all it's own they don't seem to be interested in wasting resources on building a hype machine like the western companies. |
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we do only start seeing ingame video from the (near) finished game when it is just about to be released, or released, because for oleg it seems important to keep his competition guessing till the last moment (so he gets some lead time and reestablishes himself as the leader in the field). you personally would whine even more if oleg had kept everybody openly informed about everything, his competition had copied the "look and feel" of his project yet without providing the depth and quality, and at oleg's release time you would have whines "but it doesnt look much different from the others" about the marketing component, that will become more relevant once there is a fixed release date (you know, so they can keep their "promise" and the short attention span teens and so they dont get to jumpy with their ADD). BoB is not like a playstation console game that needs, or gets, lots of marketing hype to artificially build up sales and needs grab peoples attention amongst another 50 roughly the same games released by other companies around the same time. its a niche market, most of who's customers already know about it, some selected marketing at specific targets near release time will probably do it (and then being know as "the best in its genre") Quote:
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largely however the combat flightsim hobby world is a rather small one and for most people interested in the genre the upcoming release of the sequel to il2 sturmovik has been a long awaited next step, so most have been aware of it all along (and some like tree here have gone loopy in the process of waiting) Quote:
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lol more nonsonse from the Know it all twat that is Zapatista, you can calm down now buddy and give your tongue a rest I'm certain your beta copy is safe, now try and get back some dignity before release, im guessing you've got about a yr, so not too long. No offence of course.
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say here old chum, given all your character flaws you so proudly put on display here, how about you put your money where your mouth is ? you know, kinda talk the talk, walk the walk and all that ! you say about a year, i say under that ! so lets make this interesting and wager the price of the game itself at release time :) (21e august 2011 the demarcation line) lets just watch tree slithering and sliding and backtracking now, ya spineless wuss !! |
I already offered you a short eating bet, i will eat your grubby shorts if its released this year, will you eat mine if not? :grin: You never got back to me.... as you have seen in my many posts I beleive that SOW will be released around March next year something you have constantly disagreed with, if you care to change your bet beginning of march next year then your on.
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In case you lose the bet, I'll help you with the disposal of the underwear.
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Thanks swiss :grin:
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you already have a bet going with somebody else, showing mutual interest in the "special" category of objects, something to which i have no perverted attraction
this one is straight down the line, no weirdo stuff, no back tracking, no diddle or daddle ! simple deal, mano a mano. you have said "im guessing you've got about a yr " to justify all your whining here for the yrs, i am calling you on it, today's date turning that into 21e august 2011 being the demarcation line do i already hear some slithering and sliding ? few little barks and whimpers in the process just to try and distract those with a short attention span and lack of concentration ? common ya gutless wonder, standup like a man for once and be counted for all your big bad mouthing of oleg for all these yrs |
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tree is already scrambling to edit his post and backtrack :) made some edits there to change the dates now didya ? shame i actually already cut and past it from your post before you retracted it thought so, lets just say i aint surprised by your behavior retracting when getting called to the draw lol, freakin nancy ! anytime you get your courage back tree, i am right here ! just put your money where your mouth is, failing that, quiet the bitching |
lol, heres the bet take it or leave it, march 2011 release date, Ive quoted this date many many times, and you have constantly refuted any date other than a release this year. Now if the busiest of all Oleg's butthole cleanser's will not take a bet for march next year then what does that tell the rest of us. :grin::grin:
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i am not surprised you're squirming and backtracking, you havnt shown much character so far
sadly for you its an easy to follow record here, you are the one that put up the initial date, not me, i just called you on it. simple and easy, just reread the posts in this thread. and adding personal insults in an attempt to change the topic is not surprising from you either i hereby award you "The Order of the White Feather", it is well deserved for your consistent and repeated lack of showing any sign of moral fiber http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachm...1&d=1282400241 anytime you feel a little spark of personal dignity returning, just come back here i'll be ready to follow up up on the bet, failing that no need to keep slithering with an attempt at light banter |
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It was the reference to 'butthole cleanser's' that made me respond, Hunden. Do you really think this is appropriate?
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Cool it or the thread will be locked
Swiss your last post has profanity poked into an 8 letter word...edit it. Put someone on your ignore list ...you'd be surprised how nice it gets around here. |
For all of Tree's droning, at least he is for the most part nice to people, perhaps a bit more patience is in order, as a matter of fact, when someone mentioned that it was getting a bit much in a polite manner, he actually backed of a bit. That's what reasonable people do.
I'm only saying that I don't think the original response was called for, especially in this thread, and there was certainly no reason to have escalated it so. I'm not sure where you're from Zap, but accusing a man of having a lack of moral fiber over a petty argument is just over the top, at least where I come from. |
Worm of Store.
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You can always use the ignore function Andy thats what i often use.
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Nerd fight, just the sort of thing the WWW needs. Come on Lady's time to put on you Big Girl panties. :grin:
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1) a recent post of his in this same forum commenting on a single short glimpse of another flightsim product (which previously under great fanfare was dismantled and believed to be dead forever by microsoft) Quote:
2) but when a NEW flightsim enthusiast joins this board with interest in the upcoming project (who most likely will then disappear taking with him the brief snips of info gleaned here to his cluster of friends and start a new batch of rumours) we predictably get tree's negative destructive one sided banter giving misinformation, except this time he slightly packages his turd with a little bow to pretend he is being all nice and helpful Quote:
predictably, and based on the previous character flaws he had been so consistently displaying here, tree then rapidly started backtracking and trying to squirm out of it, for which he now got a long deserved medal of the avian type the context of this all is that whatever delay's oleg is experiencing in the last yrs, which are not deliberate or by his neglect , his intention all along being to make the best possible sim he can given the resources he has to work with. if anything, his decision to not further evolve the il2 game engine and stretch it further, but make a completely different product "from the ground up" will be to all our benefit in the end, as most of us will very soon realize. so to constantly have this "slighted bride" behavior from tree is irrational, say it once that you are disappointed sure, but to CONSTANTLY do so for several yrs in most of the flightsim forums is just infantile (hence he gets treated as such, since he seems to only be able to communicate at that level), and for him to do so here so consistently and deliberately is plain offensive and rude to the creators |
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Funny how the universe twists and turns :)
i now get told last night, by somebody i have known over 10 yrs in the online flightsim world, that oleg's BoB has been postponed for another year !! this is a russian i have known since the days back to falcon 4, ms flightsim, mig alley, and to the inception of the original il2. wow so we have insider news ? great !!!...... but err, hang on, where did he get this juicy bit of information ? turns out his current nick is "highness" (lol, the original poster of this thread), and he dropped into the current oleg BoB forums to get some updated news and find out the latest ! hahahaha , gotta love the irony :) instead he got deliberately given misinformation from tree's with his moronic monotone singsong of lamenting discontent and negative depressive banter. "highness" presumed it was accurate because he had it directly from somebody on the 1C forums who has a high post count "and has been there awhile", and hey presto another damaging unsubstantiated rumor got started (all of which harms sales !!) i think tree should be booted for his persistent deliberate destructive behaviour, he's been temp banned for it before but obviously he has no intention to change. its not even some minor personal aberration he has, a quirk that might be overlooked otherwise. he is doing it deliberately and constantly, and yes it is not only plain rude and ungrateful of him (given the amount of information we get here and being given the access to "constructive input and feedback on WiP), but it is also has some damaging effect as has been clearly illustrated by this series of events |
Zapatista...you dont half talk a load of twaddle...no offence of course.
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presuming of course you have an attention span that allows you to perceive cohesion in a series of individual events that are related, no hard feelings if you cant ! |
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I cant Tree...its like listening to a ex-girlfriend of mine.
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To The Moderator:
there are no reasons to specifically lock this thread right now, and plz ignore whatever frivolous little insults tree might further add in an attempt to get it locked and create a smoke screen on what just happened. plz leave it open at least for a little longer so my statement can be either confirmed or denied by the OP of this thread (at which point you can confirm it by ip and mac address if needed) |
I wonder what your "mate" might say :rolleyes:
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The sales figures are tumbling as we speak,:grin: Now the real funny thing is that as you will clearly see in my post that I make no mention about SOW being released in 1 years time or that the development has been put on hold or postponed for a year, I said and i quote, "now try and get back some dignity before release, im guessing you've got about a yr, so not too long" emphasis on the words 'Im guessing'. Now if your daft mate (if she really exsists) takes that as an official statement then im afraid she's more stupid than you are, which is an achievement in itself. No offense of course.
Anyhow Im getting bored of your pathetic and continual attempts to get me banned even though they have amused me, but for the first time I can see you are actually serious, which makes me just a little bit sorry for you honey. |
So, a guy who's been out of touch with the IL-2 world comes here and asks "what's going on with this new sim guys?" and what does he get?
A forum regular responds in an ok tone stating his opinion that the game has quite a few months of development to go. Another regular then explodes into a shower of rage. Then they take it up among themselves to battle it out in a case of "he said, she said" escalating to the point of clinging at whatever possible straw to try and out each other as the one who's wrong. I don't know about you, but game or no game, if i was a new or returning player/virtual pilot, such a poor show from the forum regulars would leave me greatly discouraged from participating in such a community even if i bought the game :grin: We all know Tree is a pessimist, but that doesn't detract from the fact that he's got a right to state his opinions. I don't necessarily agree with him but as long as he's not insulting people and going ballistic i don't have a problem with him either. Then again, that doesn't change the fact that so far he's been right in his predictions. Does anyone of you have SoW on his hard-drive? Did anyone come up and say "Tree you were right when 2 years ago you were saying we won't see SoW until 2010, i'm sorry" as a means of bridging the gap? Yup, guessed so. I know that someone will say his negativity is rubbing off the wrong way on people and it's bad publicity for the sim. So what? Did my opinion on the quality of SoW change because of Tree's opinion? No, it didn't. Can he or anyone else make me not buy the sim? Again, no. So what's the freakin big deal? As far as i'm concerned, the only way for me not to buy SoW would be if SoW got released as an incomplete product with a stupid DRM implementation. In a similar fashion, there's loads of people criticizing everything from the rivets to the shape of trees. Well, they don't influence my decisions and i don't influence theirs, we're all just excited and talking about what we like and dislike and guess what, different people can't like the same things all the time. To think that Tree alone can make or break the sales of SoW is either overestimating him or underestimating the development team. Come on, let's all have some common sense here and give the devs some credit :-P |
100% spot on post mate.
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Oh no, just as it gets interesting and i've placed the popcorn by my side someone has to be reasonable.
SHAME ON YOU! :-D :-D :-D |
for me, STORM OF WAR is not the correct name for a flight simulator. this is a cover i think.
will be better MADDOX FLIGHT SIMULATOR, MADDOX SIMULATOR GAME or maybe a russian name will be very nice. russian name without translation will be a success! the people are tired of shit english propagandistic names of products and all are shit. oleg, think in russian, not english. |
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