To the brave few......
 

who tried to take me on in Arcade mode over the last few days; Nice try, but no cigar.

Seriously though, since christmas there has been a definate up surge in online play for 360. Its nice to get plenty of online play now to satisfy. Plus the bonus for me is that I pretty much went to town on everyone I played against. So much so that I have had a few player make note of me joining a game now on arcade and usually say something to the effect of "We're going to get hammered by Lexandro".

Not tooting my own horn, but I have had a few games where I just know some pilots are sitting there hating my guts while wishing they could fly & fight like me. I've even had one or two choice messages from those of the moronic persuasion, calling me a cheat or hacker. To be fair though racking up a 15-1 kill ratio when playing a 3vs1 game (me solo) does suggest something fishy. However I NEVER EVER cheat when it comes to playing vs a human, I'm simply not that kind of person.

Of course I have been beaten also but it has been extremely rare, iirc 3 games since xmas I've been beaten on Arcade dogfight or team battle. So if your one of those chaps who's flown against me and actually beat me, then I salute you. And to the rest, persevere! I am only human, so you need to punish my mistakes hard.

Good luck out there chaps, see you in the skies!

hey man i'd like to play with you sometime, my gamertag is the same as my username. I dont play on arcade mode though, not enough damage to affect targets and too much speed to turn.

Lexandro, you are so humble, modest. It's a real pleasure to read your post...

bum hunting on arcade mode? do you think it's time to try sim?

LOL, just try listening to how ridiculous you sound mate. A good flier you may be, but why the hell did you make a thread about it?

You chose the perfect line out of that post, its like one of those people who just cant get enough of the sound of their own voice. and to make a thread about it is plain ignorant

To the brave few?
 

Clicked on this post thinking someone was paying homage to the brave pilots of the RAF during the Battle of Britain!
What did I read, some geezer ranting on about how he is the dogs bollocks at arcade flying!:mad:
I guess that if you need to start a post telling the world how good you are we should all listen:grin:
It's not April 1st is it?

Oh man talk about ego. I sorely wish you were on PS3, I would knock you down a peg or two

:rolleyes:+1. I did exactly the same thing; thinking I was gonna read some respect & dedication to real life pilots of yesteryear, & end up reading about some 'Prince of Stabilizers' (arcade mode).
Hey mate. Dare you to take me on at Mariokarts. I'll have a red shell up your tail pipe before you can even think about singing your own praises, lol. :grin:
So you're good!! Big deal. Better than most!! Big deal. I'm also bloody brilliant at F1 World Championship (N64) with every aid on but after crossing the line 1st I can't help feeling that it just felt like a scalextric car race with hyper-super handling. I had the safety net knowing that nothing was gonna go wrong if I went off or hit anyone & the wins felt very very empty until I moved up, turned off the aids, dropped down to manual shift. Hey sure, I hardly win anymore but, man, the feeling of achievement that's bestowed on you when you make the podium atleast. Catch my drift?
BTW; that was years back. I grew up long ago!!!

I thought arcade was for the newbies? Have you considered unlocking the next level and moving up! It's called Realistic (just in case you weren't aware) and then, there is 'Simulator'. (If you are looking for a more challenging experience that is.) Us regulars will look out for you when you get to Sim level as will the Realistic peeps. Let us know how you get on.........pretty sure you will!

EvangelusE (gamertag)

he's right about the upsurge...great free4all dogfight sim over 10 players...

shame about the tdm...got spanked 3 times in a row (organised team) and only registered a couple of kills in the last one...cta and strike wins were nice...

all between 2-4 am AEST...(yawn)
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Og kush

If your so good playing with the beginners maybe you should up the ante and play with the big boys on sim. Then come back and post how good you are ;) lol.

I see this becomes another oportunity to talk down arcade mode. Op makes an idiot out of himself and the forum siezes an opportunity to say how rubbish arcade mode is and how it's for beginers.
I may be following shadowcorp out of this forum soon

It wsnt a dig at arcade at all. The OP said he was playing against rookies etc (who sent him a few choice messages) indicating that they are beginners to the game. He's blowing his own trumpet at beating guys who have probably only just got the game. WOW, something to be proud of. All im saying is that if he thinks he's THAT good then come on to sim and see how he fares.

Simply because on sim you can all fly at the same speed, pull the same turns and have everythign pretty much on a level playing field. Sim gives him something extra to think about, such as stalls, spins, top speed, rate of climb, NO ICONS showing where everyone is, no other views except for cockpit.

All im saying is let him try that with a few of us and see if he's still calling himself amazing.


Take a chill pill. Chillax :D

I play all three modes..

Arcade is fun. It is not just point and shoot (although most on there think it is)
all the best dogfights are in Arcade mode.. (I'd prefer it if all of you "never play Arcade" types didn't start flaming me because if you haven't played arcade you can't comment!).

I also love the depth of Sim mode, but, most dogfights and team battles end about 10 feet off the ground. Now correct me if I'm wrong, in every account of WWII air combat that I've read (a lot) they all repeat the same mantra.. Altitude, Altitude, Altitude... If sim mode is sooo realistic why is everyone flying sooo bloody low? I'll tell you why.. because it's not realistic. There are loads of technical posts on here about turn radius and rate of climb and so on but it's all made totally irrelevant because everyone's hiding down near the ground. None of these planes were designed to fight at such a low level.

Like I said, I love the feel of sim mode and like playing it.

That said I'm looking forward to the tourney because I believe that it will actually be fought in the sky.

The sim games go low because the ground provides us with cover, somewhere to hide. Makes it hard for the enemy to see you. Yet if we play with cloud cover on the fights are at a medium altitude using clouds for cover or hit and run.

The fact is I enjoy all game modes but play arcade mode because I enjoy it most. My freind list play arcade and we have a great blast .
The point here is, as has been stated by others in other threads, sim players on here always run down arcade mode. I could grab quotes from this thread about noobs and all that but cant be bothered.
I don't pile into sim threads saying stuff like "drop your anoraks and trainspotting books and join me for some fun in arcade mode"
I respect that people enjoy sim and don't see any need to suggest another mode has more depth and their mode is populated with shallow score chasers.
It just seems any arcade thread takes about 6 posts max before someone posts a comment about how the planes turn on a sixpence or how arcade dogfights are mindless turn battles.

Please let's not turn this into a sim vs arcade debate. It's only an issue because that's the mode the OP said he played. I believe everyone's point was that if he thinks he has his game mastered (arcade) then he needs to try a different sport (realistic or sim). The modes are different, not better, just different. I doubt any of us are defending our homeland from a cockpit Monday morning, so it's all good. :)

To the OP, nobody likes a braggar dood (but I'm sure you have figured it out by now).

You make a good point about cover.. I was kinda being deliberaltey provocative tho.. It's a boring Sunday after all. I hardly ever get into a sim game and find any sort of weather other than clear or hazy..

I was pointing out to all the "come play with the real pilots" posts that in fact the real pilots are all mostly flying so low to the ground that they may as well be driving, not piloting. To call Arcade unrealistic is a little rich.

I have questions about IL-2 1946/WoP. Does the same thing happen there online and do they have a target 'padlock?' view in sim mode? The only other Sim games I've really played were the MS Combat Flight Sims 1,2 & 3 and they had that option. (I loved CFS2.. the pacific one). I'm curious as this is the first IL game I've played and was wondering if target view in sim was frowned upon by the hardcore simmers?

I, for one & probably not the best qualified to answer such a question because I much prefer the single payer skirmish, player constucted missions & campaign experiences ijn place of the wham, bam, gone & deliberate crashing of multiplayer but what I do know from 1946 is that the host can set all parametres before the game, such as allow target padlock etc. Wings of Prey I understand, is no different to Birds of Prey other than in SIM, you now have the benefit of playing in third person, but still without the padlock.

I personally believe that the whole target padlock thing contradicts what a flight game should be all about, as part of the skill of a real life pilot & a gamer, is to be aware of his surroundings at all times & not having the game engine do it for you. I know I'm in the minority here & that's just one reason why I prefer single play over multiplay. This is why I place so much emphasism on the motion tracking system. Everyone plays differently.

Thanks.. I really struggle without padlock and wondered why it's not included as a Sim option.


The reason I would like it in is that if it's a simulation then it should simulate the pilot as well.. By that I mean that there should be a way to padlock onto a target that is visable through the canopy. Once your eyes have locked onto a target it should stay locked on unless it wouldn't be visable in real life (underneath or behind etc). Then you have to look around to re-aquire. This would behave more realistically because it's the way the human eye works. But, I can't think of a way that it would work other than on a timer (so if you look in the direction of a target for more than 10 seconds it locks on) to me that would make more sense than having to worry about 'controlling' your eyes and trying to fly a plane.

Well I can see I have hit few nerves by posting. I shall ignore some of the childish remarks and answer some of the more salient points.

Yes I do believe I have mastered arcade mode, which is evident to the people I have been playing. Many of them are not infact new players, they are old hands I have been playing against for a while. There has been an upsurge in recent weeks of people actually playing BoP on 360. In order to try and improve this somewhat I had an idea.

The intention of my post was to perk more interest in playing. You see as soon as someone makes a post such as mines, many people will them seek out that person online to play against them. This means that other players may come back to "show me up" as it were. Its inviting a challenge, a point that a number of you failed to realise. If some players see my post and then think "im going to take that bugger down a peg or two", then it means that there will be more people online playing.

As a few of the older members will remember I have in the past given a number of tips and pieces of advice to improve a players ability to play when faced with certain difficulties (such as taking out an IL on RL/Sim easily). I do play realistic on the odd occasion but as I have said before I dont have a flight stick so the subtle movements required for RL/Sim are extremely tricky for me with a pad due to a number of factors.

So, with any luck when I try and find a game online in the next few days I should see one or two of you peeps out there intending to give me a beating at BoP. The final part of my previous post was paying homage to the ones I play against and that beat me, and issuing a challenge to the ones that haven't.

I hope that about covers it.

Interesting approach. You're still a tool.

lmao, "Prince of stabilizers". Totaly agree. You should see how amazing I am at darts when standing 1 foot away from the board, I get like 140 or 180every time.

Seriously though, A lot of people with very fast broadband connections take it for granted. They forget that the people they are playing may have some degree of lag as they dont have a god like connection. The faster the game action, the more the lag makes the differece between a hit or miss. So arcade shows it up much more than realistic or sim.
15 kills and 1 death would not be posible in a arcade style uberfurball if every player had equal chance to hit another plane.

Especially when the game tells you where to aim.

on the times i have gone over to arcade mode when there is no sim matches i've noticed that the little reticule telling you where your bullets will hit is a little off.
e.g. aiming the little reticule ahead of the target plane will up your chance of hitting the enemy plane

Wether thats all down to a matter of distance i dont know, but thats what i believe will garuntee you a kill in arcade

I think that's a very good illustration of lag, even in the later model 109's with the MK103/MK108 cannons which have a low muzzle velocity, aiming directly at the lead indicator ensures a direct hit in offline training. Going online I always have to lead the lead indicator. Sometimes by up to as much as twice the distance indicated by it to score hits.

Ahhh i see, that makes perfect sense

There are other ways...
F.i. the guys who are trying to organize tournaments...
Or maybe we should start an XBOX league...
Where people register to a website, then can organize their matches...
With some leaderboard etc...

If you want to play, please add GT: LGorrit.

Lessandro The Great gives homage !

What a great honour ! Can we have a dedicated photography please ?

;)

Oh everybody look to Lexandro he is an ace in Arcade!

All hail Lexandro, the great master of Arcade!


Big, big fail....

Change the record mate

TOxCrazyVULCANx is mah gamertag, i fly arcade add me if you want i will be quite happy to provide you with a target to shoot at.

Reverse phsychology?

I've seen the way you fly, im pretty sure you'd give him a run for his money :D

you flatter me:grin:

Not really, you've had the game long enough and fly often. You know how to handle your aircraft of choice now and have on occasions made the step upto realistic/sim with me.

You know how to handle yourself in combat now. :D


which is more than can be said for me after a couple of month of no combat flying :( i now cannot fly like i used to and find myself struggling. If im going to get my skills back though then a patch needs to arrive quickly because im starting to remember all the reasons why i stopped and grounded myself from combat in the first place :(

dont think ive ever flown with you on IL2 only on Over G.
My one game of sim was a disaster tried keeping my head on a swivel but couldnt see a damn thing and ended up looking like a flaming swiss cheese.

You have flown with me on here ;)

you just didnt know about it lol.

the chloroform rag trick again?

haha. possibly :P

*Shakes Fist* No doubt during this time i was forced to use the Hawker?

nope i dont believe you was. cant remember what it was you were flying. just remember joining in progress. :D

I stopped reading after "who tried to take me on in Arcade mode" cause i kinda figured you were just one of those cocky b-tards who is to full of themselves cause they shot down a bunch of FNG's in arcade mode...

people, people have war films taught you nothing?
remember the cocky ace allways gets a load of kills and is then shot down by a plucky yet underdog challenger.

Or killed by a one in a million shot by a ground based squady with a vickers

Failing that it will a 9 year old with a BB gun, getting the 1 in a billion shot.

yet no matter what this plucky challenger will have a cut glass southern english accent and a handlebar moustache.