Sim Players, do you want a Cockpit View only option?
 

Coming across so many sim players who would love to the option of only allowing cockpit view in the setup of a game, why not make a poll?

Hopefully many vote and developers take note!

Edit 19/12/09: Standing at 39 votes, 37 pro 2 con. If you haven't voted yet, please do. You have to register for the forum which just takes a minute.

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lol, I really want this option. I hate flying in virtual cockpit, but I fell at a disadvantage if I don't because alot of people seem to.

this would of course require german pits too :P

) ONLY in combination with limited ammo. Since it makes it much more difficult to shoot, except if you have so many rounds that it doesn't matter.

) only if the WEP levels are made more realistic. As of now they add about the right amount of power to level flight. But I think they're still too powerful in climbs and turns. So the initial gun solutions are always high-aspect so the target is below the fuselage.

With limited ammo, and a 1 on 1 or team battle, it would be a good addition because it would mean a lot more maneuvering necessary to get the target visible and still have enough lead to hit it. In FFA dogfights it's not important, since FFA mode is basically a matter of being bounced once or twice a minute, and trying to shoot someone down before it happens.

I hate cockpit view, especially when it gets dirty, and I love my virtual cockpit. But I voted yes because it would definitely be cool to be forced to use it if I know everyone else has to too. And the sense of accomplishment would that much greater. Also, the feeling of shooting feels much more, er, "solid" in cockpit view, if you get my meaning. It feels like there's a lot more weight behind your tracers. I can't really explain it better than that.

I'm not against the idea, but it would split the community even further and be that much harder to find a random game.

Oh yeah, didn't think of that...

How about if it was compulsory for simulator mode? Then it might flesh out realistic a bit more with guys that aren't quit ready for the full leap - because as it stands, sim and realistic aren't hugely different.

I do find it easier to fly in Cockpit view (Sim) when I'm panning the view to keep tabs on my opponent and maneuvre at the same time, I don't lose track of where my plane is relative to the ground (which I do in virtual) quite so easily. Once I'm on a tail then I switch back to virtual but if it were compulsary for everyone then I wouldn't mind. Flying your plane when the cockpit is covered with oil would be a bail out for most and hitting the engine of your oppenent (if too close) often creates oil smearing on the canopy (which clears after a few seconds). Sim flying would be a lot tougher. Also, have you noticed the change in contrast when switching between views? I voted yes as I'm a glutton for punishment.....:grin:

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i too have the feeling my guns do more damage in cockpit view, if this is what u meant

That's a host option that should be across the board, not just in simulation.

I say no there should be no forced option. See the way I see it is if sim players want to play in the pit view thats fine and dandy and good on you. But forcing it is another limitaion that the community really doesnt need. You see some players simply wont play if they are FORCED to use a pit view, which means less players for that particular room and therefor less chance of a full room.

With the way the playebase is atm, everyone is spread out across different modes and this would only serve to further spread players out.

I'd love it, but all cockpits would need to be in the game.

Me too, somehow my aim is better - or less awful:grin: - when in cockpit

i find my aim is better just by playing sim instead of arcade or realistic lol

played a few tb matches yesterday with about 6-7 guys where we all used the cockpit view... It was really fun tho incredibly hard, for me atleast. I think I only managed 3 or 4 kills in about 5 games - not counting the number of friendly kills :mad: Hardest thing is to keep an eye on the enemy, even when he's right on my 12... couples of turns and he ends up in one of the deadspot created by the cockpit massive framework, i lose sight for a fraction of a sec, and I'm a dead guy. I just think the POV in the cockpit is def not good (esp in the spits), I mean in real life i would just have to tilt my head a little to see whats behind that huge frame...

Guess i'll need some more practice

thats the point. its much more easier to spot and identification the enemy plane in virtual cockpits. it would be unfair , when u have the choice in game.

Any more votes?
 

We're at 37 collected votes, 35 pro, 2 cons. If you haven't voted yet, please do, the more we have the easier to convince our valued developers!
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I say Yes! Fight in cokpit view are more realist.. It's more easier to save your life when you are under attack and the time of a dogfight is better! (Sorry for my bad english lol)
And i m dreaming cokpit view for axes planes too!

Thanks Varcus.

The more planes with cockpits the better (IMO they all should have cockpits...).

I find the Cockpit view to be useful when there's a lot of enemies on the screen and when you want to know things that the instruments are telling you... once it's dirty it's virtually useless unless you have a high degree of situational awareness.

However, if a game were forced into this mode it would make it fair for everyone...

I'd also like to be able to super impose the HUD over the 3rd person view in some situations... also changing the color of the everything should also be an option... it's very hard to see the recticle on my shatty TV... lol

Totaly agree with you

Fly-by
 

If you are saying "No External View" options available, then my vote is - No. No matter how "cutting edge" a SIM game may be, w/ out the cockpit view I would never buy it. However, I cannot completely enjoy the game w/ out including the external views as well (ex: FLY-BY camera view) - Yes, I kind'a regret buying BOP for this simple reason but I'm sure there are others who will agree... the "FLY-BY" camera view is a necessity, for creating a fine movie and bringing one's imagination to life! Isn't the best part of an air show or movie the Fly-By affects/ effects? I think so. Check out some of these fly-by views! ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt8G3...eature=related

Wow, what a great story! i wonder what happened to the rest of them

Just tried this out with Macademic, and found out I could get worse at this game...

Would love to see this option though, does seem way more realistic (obviously) and adds to the experience. Wish I would have tried this view more before!

Man I miss Dogfights, what a great show. Thanks for posting that clip.

why not have the options for 'view' in the MP create game session menu? I would like to have a go if all the other players were prepared to try it. Seems straightforward..(or would it require a dedicated server?) .. 'Cockpit view' or 'all' selected and everyone is catered for. I would imagine that SIM combat would be at slightly higher altitudes as a result (which would be a refreshing experience). Of course, as already pointed, we would need all the cockpits and that isn't likely to happen. But any sequel.......?

I think Wings of Prey shows that they always intended the Cockpit view to be locked on Sim mode in BoP. It would extend the length of dogfights and make them so much better if you could use the cockpits blindspot to evade attacks.

+1 Cockpits are meant to be on Sim, since it's supposed to be SIMULATOR (not an Arcade or Realistic) game. Simulator is supposed to give you the most detailed and authentic capabilities, and views that the pilots of this or that plane would have had.