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DH1979 12-07-2009 03:26 PM

PS3 patch 1.01 live
 
only 12mb too

irrelevant 12-07-2009 03:31 PM

seriously? that's great news! the work day is going to be looooooooong...

Robotic Pope 12-07-2009 03:33 PM

Geez FINALY. Now the 360 patch can be released.

Let us know how much better the multiplayer is now the crashes count as kills. How quickly in a turn does the red/black out occur now?

Steyr_amr 12-07-2009 03:40 PM

Does this affect the tournament in any way? Regardless I can't wait to see how the new P-51 performs.

Ancient Seraph 12-07-2009 03:45 PM

Now let's hope MS doesn't get in the way :).
Let's hear some comments about the patch.

Houndstone Hawk 12-07-2009 03:46 PM

Tearing Issue
 
SCREEN TEARING IS FIXED AS PROMISED!!!!

Much better. The look around fps are now not as smooth as 360 but the tearing is a thing of a past.

Worth the wait on that alone!!!!!!!!!:)

EDIT
I shouldn't have been so hastey. Got 5 minutes into the flight, climbed up to 10,000 ft & for some reason it's now tearing as bad as before. GUTTED!!!

stealth finger 12-07-2009 03:51 PM

hows the p-51 now?

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx 12-07-2009 03:53 PM

OMFG!!!! YES!!!! OMG!!!! YES!!!!

When I saw this, I think I cried a little. (jk, but it adds to effect XD)

irrelevant 12-07-2009 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xX-SiLeNCE-Xx (Post 126048)
OMFG!!!! YES!!!! OMG!!!! YES!!!!

When I saw this, I think I cried a little. (jk, but it adds to effect XD)

you cried, i wet myself. 'tis a good day.

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx 12-07-2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irrelevant (Post 126050)
you cried, i wet myself. 'tis a good day.

'Tis it is :grin:

trk29 12-07-2009 04:09 PM

I started up the game. The United States doesn't have the patch yet. It never started a download. Maybe later this evening.

Anton and dev team. Can we now get a full list on what is in the patch?
Thanks

haitch40 12-07-2009 04:17 PM

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSS


i started it and it said patch i feel more exited than when i got the game


now to test it

irrelevant 12-07-2009 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 126055)
I started up the game. The United States doesn't have the patch yet. It never started a download. Maybe later this evening.

i think i'll join silence and have myself a cry now. :sad:

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx 12-07-2009 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irrelevant (Post 126057)
i think i'll join silence and have myself a cry now. :sad:

I'm crying now to, but not a happy cry. :( I was never prompted to download :(

philabong2 12-07-2009 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xX-SiLeNCE-Xx (Post 126058)
I'm crying now to, but not a happy cry. :( I was never prompted to download :(

me neither, woke up this morning feeling like a kid on christmas morning when reading this... guess we'll have to wait just a bit more:mad:

InfiniteStates 12-07-2009 04:37 PM

I wonder if v1.00 can play v1.01...?

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx 12-07-2009 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates (Post 126062)
I wonder if v1.00 can play v1.01...?

Well Rhah just sent me an invite (though I never tried to accept it) but maybe that means we can still play together?

P-51 12-07-2009 04:54 PM

I was carrying the laptop when I read this, i resisted the urged to drop it and dash to my PS3. Will trial it ASAP!

ThatYoungGameGuy 12-07-2009 04:56 PM

an upset and distraught 360 owner here :(, can anyone tell me if the flak has become more effective? maybe try flying past the guns at dover on training?

haitch40 12-07-2009 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-51 (Post 126067)
I was carrying the laptop when I read this, i resisted the urged to drop it and dash to my PS3. Will trial it ASAP!

lol
btw patch is good

trk29 12-07-2009 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haitch40 (Post 126071)
lol
btw patch is good

Go on sim and let us know how easy it is for us to redout/blackout.

Robotic Pope 12-07-2009 05:12 PM

Come on guys we need FEEDBACK!!!

P-51 ??
Crashes are kills ?
Red/Black outs on sim?
FW190??????????

trk29 12-07-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 126081)
Come on guys we need FEEDBACK!!!

P-51 ??
Crashes are kills ?
Red/Black outs on sim?
FW190??????????

I just read on Yuplay that crashes count as kills so do collisions.

P-51 12-07-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 126084)
I just read on Yuplay that crashes count as kills so do collisions.

Woooooop!!! Ima downloading it now!! Ill be back!

trk29 12-07-2009 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-51 (Post 126085)
Woooooop!!! Ima downloading it now!! Ill be back!

Sweet, do the forum proud we want details :-P

winny 12-07-2009 05:27 PM

Red outs and blackouts are now very quick to appear and go close to total red/black in sim mode when you start getting aggressive with the controls. Not managed a total redout or blackout but I've only been on for 5 mins or so..

I'm a little puzzled coz I use a HOTAS and I still can't look to my six... Am I doing something wrong or do I have to go into the custom layout?

The zoom feature seems to zoom in closer, most of the screen tearing seems to be fixed.

Not been online with it yet..

edal86 12-07-2009 05:30 PM

aww man :(

no patch for America yet, I tried using a UK account to download the patch but to no effect.

We will probably get it by 6 pm

InfiniteStates 12-07-2009 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winny (Post 126088)
I'm a little puzzled coz I use a HOTAS and I still can't look to my six... Am I doing something wrong or do I have to go into the custom layout?

You can't with a pad either, can you? Probably cos there's a bloody great fuselage in the way...:-P

trk29 12-07-2009 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winny (Post 126088)
Red outs and blackouts are now very quick to appear and go close to total red/black in sim mode when you start getting aggressive with the controls. Not managed a total redout or blackout but I've only been on for 5 mins or so..

I'm a little puzzled coz I use a HOTAS and I still can't look to my six... Am I doing something wrong or do I have to go into the custom layout?

The zoom feature seems to zoom in closer, most of the screen tearing seems to be fixed.

Not been online with it yet..

Since most fly with the virtual cockpit, do these blackout red outs happen in that mode as well?

Just this feature will definitely change the way MP is played.

What about adding different peripherals has anyone tried a pc flight stick? I hope my MS sidewinder works, if someone can hook up a mouse and or keyboard and let us know how easy it is to assign buttons that would be great.

winny 12-07-2009 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates (Post 126092)
You can't with a pad either, can you? Probably cos there's a bloody great fuselage in the way...:-P

You can look backwards with a pad (I think!)... You can see the headrest of the seat etc.. With the hat switch the furthest you can look back is either 3 or 9 o'clock or straight up. Which is the same as before the update... like I said, am I missing something? Or am I being thick..

f1rebrand 12-07-2009 05:43 PM

Just unlocked a TA-152. Is that news?

trk29 12-07-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f1rebrand (Post 126098)
Just unlocked a TA-152. Is that news?

Yes you must have used the FW190.

winny 12-07-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 126095)
Since most fly with the virtual cockpit, do these blackout red outs happen in that mode as well?

I was flying with the cockpit visable (I'm not sure if that's virtual cockpit!)
Not the full screen thing.. I apologise for my stoopidity!

trk29 12-07-2009 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winny (Post 126096)
You can look backwards with a pad (I think!)... You can see the headrest of the seat etc.. With the hat switch the furthest you can look back is either 3 or 9 o'clock or straight up. Which is the same as before the update... like I said, am I missing something? Or am I being thick..

Your not using the AV8R are you? You must be using the Thrust master.

Virtual cockpit is where you can't see the cockpit
Real cockpit is well... real. :)

winny 12-07-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 126108)
Your not using the AV8R are you? You must be using the Thrust master.

Yep.. thrustmaster. I thought that it was gonna be fixed :(

Sandylowlead 12-07-2009 05:51 PM

No u admin

trk29 12-07-2009 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandylowlead (Post 126110)
[IMG]http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll48/Ragenbeef/fuuuuu.jpg[/IMG

I just sent you a pm quit posting these ridiculous pictures it makes the forum hard to read and is not needed.

edal86 12-07-2009 05:55 PM

PATCH HERE FOR AMERICANS :)

will try it now and will be back

Sandylowlead 12-07-2009 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 126112)
PATCH HERE FOR AMERICANS :)

will try it now and will be back

make haste i want to know if they fixed the MANY problems in the game!

trk29 12-07-2009 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandylowlead (Post 126110)
No u admin

I think you need a vacation from the forum.

trk29 12-07-2009 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winny (Post 126109)
Yep.. thrustmaster. I thought that it was gonna be fixed :(

If I remember correctly the button is different one is analog and the other is digital between the two. And they only thing they said they were going to fix is the brake on the flight sticks.

Sandylowlead 12-07-2009 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 126115)
I think YOU need a vacation from the forum.

^

InfiniteStates 12-07-2009 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winny (Post 126096)
You can look backwards with a pad (I think!)... You can see the headrest of the seat etc.. With the hat switch the furthest you can look back is either 3 or 9 o'clock or straight up. Which is the same as before the update... like I said, am I missing something? Or am I being thick..

As sorry - yeah that is significantly more handicapped than a pad. I can't see a way around that without using an analogue control though...? Or is the hatswitch analogue?

winny 12-07-2009 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates (Post 126119)
As sorry - yeah that is significantly more handicapped than a pad. I can't see a way around that without using an analogue control though...? Or is the hatswitch analogue?

It's digital on the hotas.. I think I may have misread an earlier post about this then.

Maybe I should see if the mouse support works...

Sandylowlead 12-07-2009 06:17 PM

Is the greatest dog fighter in the world fixed?!?!?!?!?

winny 12-07-2009 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandylowlead (Post 126125)
Is the greatest dog fighter in the world fixed?!?!?!?!?

I imagine Edal will be back on here soon with a comprehensive list of what's what. I'd wait for that. If I were you.

edal86 12-07-2009 06:20 PM

Patch test description
 
You guys will love this:

* did not noticed screen tearing yet
* control custumization is great (about 5 new options for control setup, option for PC stick (my old logitech extreme3d works lol)
- Every button on the controller can be assigned whatever you want

* Flak is great, you feel the blast, it moves your plane. I got shot down by bullets from a ship, but the flak damaged a Bf 109 that I was chasing, he started smoking.

* no cockpit view for BF 10's or fw 190's
- p-51D-5 cockpit was not fixed (still has p-47)

*P-51 now flies better than the bf 109 (you can really notice this in turns)
* Fw 190 was slightly fixed, I think the p-51 turns a little better, and the gun platform way more stable than fw 190.

* blackouts are good, I have not gotten completely balcked out, but blackouts are there on both cockpit and virtual views (this is good news for me)

* I will try red outs, and machine and cannon separation in a bit.

(any other requests for things that I may check?)

Sandylowlead 12-07-2009 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 126128)
You guys will love this:



*P-51 now flies better than the bf 109 (you can really notice this in turns)
)


QQ the P-51 should be the HANDS down best plane in the game :(

edal86 12-07-2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandylowlead (Post 126129)
QQ the P-51 should be the HANDS down best plane in the game :(

I will try it online right now against a spit, trk29 will fly the spit, I will let you know of the results

irrelevant 12-07-2009 06:34 PM

man, i wish i was home right now. would love to be playing with you guys...

edit: i really hope the 109/190 cockpits come as DLC in the future.

Sandylowlead 12-07-2009 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 126130)
I will try it online right now against a spit, trk29 will fly the spit, I will let you know of the results

ty

edal86 12-07-2009 06:44 PM

more patch test info
 
P-51D vs SpitIX
(p-51 won, but in a turning fight the spit will win by small difference now, the difference can be compared to that of a yak3 vs la5)

Blackouts play an important role (you will notice them a lot, fun fun fun), redouts are less frequent but are there.

Online points 1 kill = 5 points, 1 death = -1 point
- crash no kill problem still there but is less frequent

Houndstone Hawk 12-07-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 126128)
You guys will love this:

* did not noticed screen tearing yet
* control custumization is great (about 5 new options for control setup, option for PC stick (my old logitech extreme3d works lol)
- Every button on the controller can be assigned whatever you want

* Flak is great, you feel the blast, it moves your plane. I got shot down by bullets from a ship, but the flak damaged a Bf 109 that I was chasing, he started smoking.

* no cockpit view for BF 10's or fw 190's
- p-51D-5 cockpit was not fixed (still has p-47)

*P-51 now flies better than the bf 109 (you can really notice this in turns)
* Fw 190 was slightly fixed, I think the p-51 turns a little better, and the gun platform way more stable than fw 190.

* blackouts are good, I have not gotten completely balcked out, but blackouts are there on both cockpit and virtual views (this is good news for me)

* I will try red outs, and machine and cannon separation in a bit.

(any other requests for things that I may check?)

I can definately say that the screen tearing is NOT FIXED unfornately. Maybe I'm being picky as it was the single most needed aspect to warrant attention IMO. Curiously it doesn't tear now until a few minutes into a flight, then it's easily as bad as it was.

Although personally disappointed by this, the custom layouts, flak, black & redouts are great. A worthy effort in need of praise & worth the wait!!!!

Anton Yudintsev 12-07-2009 06:52 PM

If resulting framerate is less, than 30, V-sync automatically toggles off (than coming on back again). This was made to make MP dynamics as fast, as possibly.
However, in title update framerate is also improved, most of times - at least +15-20%

Houndstone Hawk 12-07-2009 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev (Post 126140)
If resulting framerate is less, than 30, V-sync automatically toggles off (than coming on back again). This was made to make MP dynamics as fast, as possibly.
However, in title update framerate is also improved, most of times - at least +15-20%

That would explain the intermitent tearing I'm experiencing. Very well done on the rest of the 1.01. Great work. :-)

winny 12-07-2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev (Post 126140)
If resulting framerate is less, than 30, V-sync automatically toggles off (than coming on back again). This was made to make MP dynamics as fast, as possibly.
However, in title update framerate is also improved, most of times - at least +15-20%

Hi Anton, Could you clarify that the HOTAS hatswitch will not let you check behind you? If so I need to start practising with the pad... Thanks.

edal86 12-07-2009 07:01 PM

custom layout
 
You can now assign anything to the keyboard :)

I love it, brings me il2 1946 flashbacks :D

trk29 12-07-2009 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev (Post 126140)
If resulting framerate is less, than 30, V-sync automatically toggles off (than coming on back again). This was made to make MP dynamics as fast, as possibly.
However, in title update framerate is also improved, most of times - at least +15-20%

Awesome job Anton loving it.
Can we get a complete list of what was fixed in the update?

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx 12-07-2009 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 126145)
You can now assign anything to the keyboard :)

I love it, brings me il2 1946 flashbacks :D

Can you look around with a mouse?

Steyr_amr 12-07-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 126145)
You can now assign anything to the keyboard :)

I love it, brings me il2 1946 flashbacks :D

Yeh loving it, havent been able to play 46 since i got this new comp :(. Have you tryed a mouse yet?

edal86 12-07-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xX-SiLeNCE-Xx (Post 126147)
Can you look around with a mouse?

sorry dont have usb mouse

Zatoichi_Sanjuro 12-07-2009 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 126137)
P-51D vs SpitIX
(p-51 won, but in a turning fight the spit will win by small difference now, the difference can be compared to that of a yak3 vs la5)

Blackouts play an important role (you will notice them a lot, fun fun fun), redouts are less frequent but are there.

Online points 1 kill = 5 points, 1 death = -1 point
- crash no kill problem still there but is less frequent

Yeah, the blackouts and the more frequent heavy breathing make it much more intense.

I've only played on sim so far and the damage/crash=kill doesn't seem to be working. I was downed a few times with shots to my wings and rudder but it didn't register as a kill. Perhaps the affected plane-part has to turn black to count?
I'll try some of the other modes to see if it's more apparent.

(Also, after your first online match is over you're met with a slew of unlocks :-P)

trk29 12-07-2009 07:09 PM

Haven't tried a mouse but 1 thing I noticed, when in cockpit view sim mode if you use the d-pad to look it no longer looks at the outside of your plane instead it pans from the inside!

I will try my new multi touch apple mouse it is bluetooth.

EDIT: Sweet even the apple mouse works. Left click and you can look everywhere, let off the button and view returns to center. Killer.

Houndstone Hawk 12-07-2009 07:13 PM

Custom ZOOM on SIM
 
Does anyone know why there are two Zoom Cameras on the customise Pad screen?
Everything seems to be mapping ok but not the Zoom Camera (when playing on SIM mode).

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx 12-07-2009 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 126152)
Haven't tried a mouse but 1 thing I noticed, when in cockpit view sim mode if you use the d-pad to look it no longer looks at the outside of your plane instead it pans from the inside!

I will try my new multi touch apple mouse it is bluetooth.

EDIT: Sweet even the apple mouse works. Left click and you can look everywhere, let off the button and view returns to center. Killer.

HELL YES!!! OMG that's awesome! Target tracking just got a whole lot easier. How's the deadzone?

SgtPappy 12-07-2009 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandylowlead (Post 126129)
QQ the P-51 should be the HANDS down best plane in the game :(

Erm, no. Great, yes. But the fact that everyone thinks its the best is complete fooey. Going into that discussion is for another thread.

First off, I'd like to thank the devs for all their hard work and their patience for torture from all of us and the publishers :-P

Anyway, the P-51D was a little better. It feels like the Spitfires are easiest to blackout in, but they feel more unstable... kinda weird since the 109 never seems to go into spin, though WWII pilots found it very unstable.

Something I find very important is that the zoom button will NOT WORK if re-assigned. I assigned it to down on the Dpad, tried square, etc. Nothing works except the default L2. There's also 2 options for zoom as well for some reason. I think the control list lists all the controls in all three modes.

I think that controller setups should be split between sim, realistic, and arcade because there are double options for a bunch of things.

trk29 12-07-2009 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xX-SiLeNCE-Xx (Post 126154)
HELL YES!!! OMG that's awesome! Target tracking just got a whole lot easier. How's the deadzone?

Haven't tried with a the AV8R yet. I did try my MS Sidewinder and all the control mapping worked great except the throttle the game wouldn't recognize the movement on the throttle switch.

Houndstone Hawk 12-07-2009 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SgtPappy (Post 126155)
Erm, no. Great, yes. But the fact that everyone thinks its the best is complete fooey. Going into that discussion is for another thread.

First off, I'd like to thank the devs for all their hard work and their patience for torture from all of us and the publishers :-P

Anyway, the P-51D was a little better. It feels like the Spitfires are easiest to blackout in, but they feel more unstable... kinda weird since the 109 never seems to go into spin, though WWII pilots found it very unstable.

Something I find very important is that the zoom button will NOT WORK if re-assigned. I assigned it to down on the Dpad, tried square, etc. Nothing works except the default L2. There's also 2 options for zoom as well for some reason. I think the control list lists all the controls in all three modes.

I think that controller setups should be split between sim, realistic, and arcade because there are double options for a bunch of things.

EVEN more important, when playing on SIM mode using the custom layout, the zoom will not work atall, even on the default L2. SIM players using a pad have always had to fly with the wireless aviator setup for pad option to give freedom to looking around without having to depress the R3 button but the downside was losing the zoom function & now it seems, you stillcant have a dedicated look around feature on R3 & have zoom when playing SIM?!?

trk29 12-07-2009 07:47 PM

Hey guys I tested out all the layouts they have 4 defaults now. I believe Gaijin got it right with layout 3 it is just like wireless AV8R layout except now rudder is L2 and R2 and throttle is L1 and R1 and you can set throttle to what ever you want it.

This will be my choice with pad and I should say you should try this.

To look you just move right stick and to get different views click it.

D-pad does Rockets bombs and flaps
Square zooms
X guns
triangle commands to flight ? I haven't tried this one yet
o map

the only thing is there is no trim button

Houndstone Hawk 12-07-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 126162)
Hey guys I tested out all the layouts they have 4 defaults now. I believe Gaijin got it right with layout 3 it is just like wireless AV8R layout except now rudder is L2 and R2 and throttle is L1 and R1 and you can set throttle to what ever you want it.

This will be my choice with pad and I should say you should try this.

To look you just move right stick and to get different views click it.

YES!!!!!! GREAT ADVICE. Finally. Workable views & a zoom feature on SIM mode. Thanks alot trk.

trk29 12-07-2009 07:54 PM

I believe Deadzone on the AV8R is fixed but the rudder problem is still there either on or off.

And the adjustment of the dead zone works great as well.

On another note, I landed the first time successfully using the AV8R stick and on sim... No tipping over! yay!

PantherAttack2 12-07-2009 08:00 PM

I can't wait to play it with the patch! :)

Finally!

Houndstone Hawk 12-07-2009 08:01 PM

If only there was a workaround where SIM players could use a controller layout like default layout 3 but have easier access to the zoom when viewing around the cockpit as it's very difficult reaching for the square button when say, viewing your 9 O'clock position whilst manouevring.

The zoom ideally needs to be on the L3 (thumbstick click) for a perfect layout for the SIM player using the pad.

trk29 12-07-2009 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk (Post 126171)
If only there was a workaround where SIM players could use a controller layout like default layout 3 but have easier access to the zoom when viewing around the cockpit as it's very difficult reaching for the square button when say, viewing your 9 O'clock position whilst manouevring.

The zoom ideally needs to be on the L3 (thumbstick click) for a perfect layout for the SIM player using the pad.

Maybe you can copy the layout and then make a custom layout and switch the zoom to click right stick and change view to square. Try that.

dealwolydnas 12-07-2009 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 126128)
* Fw 190 was slightly fixed, I think the p-51 turns a little better, and the gun platform way more stable than fw 190.

Can you explain a lil better on "slightly fixed"? does it handle around the bf109 G-6? Also did they fix both of the P-51 and FwWolf?

Houndstone Hawk 12-07-2009 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 126178)
Maybe you can copy the layout and then make a custom layout and switch the zoom to click right stick and change view to square. Try that.

Tried it. Unfortunately the Zoom function wont work atall when flying SIM on a custom layout. It registers on realistic though. It's really strange & massively annoying as it was always the zoom/easy viewing combination that was the only downfall to the otherwise ok SIM pad layout. :confused:

mattd27 12-07-2009 08:48 PM

sweet!:) Now bring on the 360 patch! I haven't played this game in almost a month (too many other awesome releases), but I'm ready to jump back in with the patch hopefully.

ThatYoungGameGuy 12-07-2009 08:51 PM

so pleased the flak is fixed. Does it blow up the plane in one hit? Or do bits blow off, e.g. wings, tail section etc.

flynlion 12-07-2009 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 126166)
I believe Deadzone on the AV8R is fixed but the rudder problem is still there either on or off.

And the adjustment of the dead zone works great as well.

On another note, I landed the first time successfully using the AV8R stick and on sim... No tipping over! yay!

This is great news! I know the deadzone can not be "tweakable" with the 360 version, but maybe it will be less annoying. One can only hope :-P
And I'm really looking forward to trying the "patched" version of the FW-190, that plane is just so bad-assed :cool:

Yossarian 12-07-2009 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DH1979 (Post 126033)
only 12mb too

I'm assuming that the German cockpits we were promised would be included in this update (as we were told before the game even shipped) are still MIA then.

SgtPappy 12-07-2009 09:03 PM

Awesome! Thanks, that zoom in works wonders.

If only we could map it to our own buttons because now I'm having trouble trimming the plane while maneuvering. Oh well, not like WWII pilots could really maneuver well while trimming (if they were crazy enough to trim while fighting!).

But wow, that helps a lot. Now I just have to get used to the controls.

Doktorwzzerd 12-07-2009 09:10 PM

Thanks to Anton & Co. for coming through, can't wait until the 360 gets it!

Does this mean we won't have to see any more "The Patch Is Never Coming Out!!!!!" conspiracy theory threads on this forum:-)

trk29 12-07-2009 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yossarian (Post 126191)
I'm assuming that the German cockpits we were promised would be included in this update (as we were told before the game even shipped) are still MIA then.

No german cockpits :(

P-51 12-07-2009 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 126162)
Hey guys I tested out all the layouts they have 4 defaults now. I believe Gaijin got it right with layout 3 it is just like wireless AV8R layout except now rudder is L2 and R2 and throttle is L1 and R1 and you can set throttle to what ever you want it.

This will be my choice with pad and I should say you should try this.

To look you just move right stick and to get different views click it.

D-pad does Rockets bombs and flaps
Square zooms
X guns
triangle commands to flight ? I haven't tried this one yet
o map

the only thing is there is no trim button


Didn't check that! Sounds awesome! Thanks!!!!

kozzm0 12-07-2009 09:26 PM

Real planes!

The blackout/redout is SO GOOD that there is no way anybody's gonna be turning 10 to 12-second circles in any plane. They've got it back to the realistic 19 seconds. Pull max-g even at 300kph, and your pilot goes blind.

One major disappointment, you still can't set l2 and r2 to be rudder pedals as an axis. They still work only as buttons, where rudder is either full-on or full-neutral.

You have to reset the trim a lot more often as it is more drastically affected by speed and AOA now.

The tipping-on-landing problem appears solved, at least for the fw-190 which I landed in training mode.

I still haven't bothered to go online - it took some getting used to just fighting two fw-190's with an la5.

Lexandro 12-07-2009 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 126162)
Hey guys I tested out all the layouts they have 4 defaults now. I believe Gaijin got it right with layout 3 it is just like wireless AV8R layout except now rudder is L2 and R2 and throttle is L1 and R1 and you can set throttle to what ever you want it.

This will be my choice with pad and I should say you should try this.

To look you just move right stick and to get different views click it.

D-pad does Rockets bombs and flaps
Square zooms
X guns
triangle commands to flight ? I haven't tried this one yet
o map

the only thing is there is no trim button

Have you tried mapping the trim to the pads L3 button? Would that work or not?

Robotic Pope 12-07-2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zatoichi_Sanjuro (Post 126151)
I've only played on sim so far and the damage/crash=kill doesn't seem to be working. I was downed a few times with shots to my wings and rudder but it didn't register as a kill. Perhaps the affected plane-part has to turn black to count?
I'll try some of the other modes to see if it's more apparent.

Thats kinda disapointing. For me that was the most important thing to be fixed.

Oh and What about in cockpit stall shuddering sound effects, have they been added?

Zatoichi_Sanjuro 12-07-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 126202)
Thats kinda disapointing. For me that was the most important thing to be fixed.

Having played again I think it might just be a bug with the kill/crash display, as when I checked the score menu the number of kills our team got exceeded our individual kill count.

Robotic Pope 12-07-2009 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Zatoichi_Sanjuro (Post 126205)
Having played again I think it might just be a bug with the kill/crash display, as when I checked the score menu the number of kills our team got exceeded our individual kill count.

Thats not good. What about in a dogfight?

JG27CaptStubing 12-07-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandylowlead (Post 126129)
QQ the P-51 should be the HANDS down best plane in the game :(

Like all planes they all have their strengths and weaknesses. In reality depending on the era the 51 wasn't nessarily the best plane it depended on a lot of factors.

Good to see people are still interested in this title. I wonder how many will actually convert over to flying IL2 1946...

Houndstone Hawk 12-07-2009 10:12 PM

AM I SERIOUSLY THE ONLY SIM PLAYER THAT'S BEEN CALLING FOR A NON-CLICKABLE RIGHT STICK LOOK AROUND FUNCTION ASWELL AS A WORKABLE ZOOM?????
Can no one find a work around with this so-called total customizable mapping feature?
As trk29 has documented, the best SIM pad layout is the default 3 map but the zoom is on the square button & so is completely impractible to use when scanning around or manouevring etc.
I have spent the evening copying that otherwise workable map to the custom page & wish to put the zoom to the L3 (thumbstick click as this is redundant on SIM in this map) but whatever is attempted, the f****** zoom (the most wanted mappable button for SIM players with pads)will NOT register, no matter what button you assign zoom to (but will register in arcade & realistic, the modes that don't even require this due to the padlock view). I have tried disabling one zoom button (as the map contains 2 zoom slots & 2 target cam slots), then the other, & even mirroring the same button to both zooms but IT WILL NOT WORK.

This was the only button needed for SIM players who wanted the dedicated Rightstick look around & it's beyond frustration that, still, it is the only function that can't be customized.
PLEASE HELP. I'm hoping it's just me missing something stupid here!!!:(

edal86 12-07-2009 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dealwolydnas (Post 126185)
Can you explain a lil better on "slightly fixed"? does it handle around the bf109 G-6? Also did they fix both of the P-51 and FwWolf?

* Fw 190 can out turn the bf 109 g2, so the bf 109 g6 should not be a problem
- this plane turns better now for sure

* the P-51 can now keep up with a Spit (I tried this), the spit can still out turn the p-51 but not by much
- P-51 I think, is now among the top 3-5 best planes on this game

* I kept the same sensibility for these planes, they still spinout if you lower the sensibility but kept the same they turn way better

Robotic Pope 12-07-2009 10:51 PM

How about the other planes that were crocked before (full of fuel?).

Bf110 and the P-51B (hasn't had its name corrected to Mustang Ia with 4 cannons by any chance? I was probably hoping for too much there.)

SgtPappy 12-07-2009 11:49 PM

Unfortunately, you are indeed hoping for too much.
It, like the P-51D has been kept exactly the same in terms of looks and name.

Yea, I'm personally impressed with the P-51D's new handling. It still seems like a beast to fly, but it DOES turn tighter. I don't think it's that close to a Spitfire in the turn, but it certainly feels a little better.

I wasn't able to test the speed though. Did the P-51D get any faster? It's supposed to pull more than 350 mph @ SL with no WEP. :?

Lexandro 12-07-2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 126234)
* Fw 190 can out turn the bf 109 g2, so the bf 109 g6 should not be a problem
- this plane turns better now for sure

* the P-51 can now keep up with a Spit (I tried this), the spit can still out turn the p-51 but not by much
- P-51 I think, is now among the top 3-5 best planes on this game

* I kept the same sensibility for these planes, they still spinout if you lower the sensibility but kept the same they turn way better

So Edal would you say that both those planes are now "competative"? That is to say could an average pilot fly them with some success, as apposed to before where it required a much more skilled hand at the stick?

InfiniteStates 12-08-2009 12:51 AM

The P51 is certainly capable in terms of handling, but as armaments go its like a neutered Hurricane.

Robotic Pope 12-08-2009 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by InfiniteStates (Post 126261)
The P51 is certainly capable in terms of handling, but as armaments go its like a neutered Hurricane.

What the P-51D's 6 .50 machine guns??? 1 short burst can make mince meat out of all but the IL-2's. Same for the Hurricane, its firepower is pretty awesome. Try the P-51B and the MC.202 now they ARE underarmed.

Robotic Pope 12-08-2009 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Deascendent (Post 126277)
You idiots, can't you guys figure out why zoom mode wont work on sim? Because it's efffin SIM MODE!

PILOTS DIDN'T HAVE TELESCOPES MOUNTED ON THE DASHBOARD YOU IDIOTS!

Now dear god, please release the 360 patch tomorrow, this is bullshit, we paid the same amount of money as those damn ps3 users did... watch it be 3-4 more months because of the same bugs that plagued the ps3 patch's release... : (

urmmmm. Sim mode does have a zoom function Deascendent, you might want to apologise quick lol. They are anoyed because it isnt working when they move it to a different button. I think you mistook zoom for the lock on that is only in arcade and realistic.


Also its nothing like the zoom a telescope or binoculars have. I see the zoom button more like a consentrate button. I imagine the pilot leaning forward slightly and scwinting his eyes to make out planes in the distance. Its quite realistic.

SgtPappy 12-08-2009 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deascendent (Post 126277)
You idiots, can't you guys figure out why zoom mode wont work on sim? Because it's efffin SIM MODE!

PILOTS DIDN'T HAVE TELESCOPES MOUNTED ON THE DASHBOARD YOU IDIOTS!

Now dear god, please release the 360 patch tomorrow, this is bullshit, we paid the same amount of money as those damn ps3 users did... watch it be 3-4 more months because of the same bugs that plagued the ps3 patch's release... : (

Dude gtfo now. :-P

trk29 12-08-2009 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kozzm0 (Post 126200)
Real planes!


One major disappointment, you still can't set l2 and r2 to be rudder pedals as an axis. They still work only as buttons, where rudder is either full-on or full-neutral.

You are wrong try the custom layout 3 the rudders are not on and off with control pad.


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