Title update update
 

Publisher (505) is willing to submit Title Update to Sony this week.
This mean, it should be available in three weeks after that.

Sorry for delay.
I know, most of players don't give a shit about whose fault it was, or what were the reasons of the delay - and they are right. So just - we are very sorry.
For those, who are interested, the reasons were:
Latest issues (also presented in release version, but haven't appeared during final QA) were for multiplayer sessions for more than 12 players if they were using VoIP and playing using Wi-Fi connection (not Ethernet connection).
Probably, WiFi router in publisher's QA wasn't good enough, I don't know.

But it took a lot of time (three weeks) of us even to get information that they were testing with WiFi... WiFi is loosing a lot of data packages. After that we solve problem as good as possible, by mostly increasing pings timeouts (still, however, you can get disconnected with 12+ WiFi session, but it's rare now. If player isn't pinged for a minute, he is disconnected, which is likely on intense session for WiFi).
And, of course, as the results are highly dependent on network configuration, physical router/PS3 position, weather, etc - nothing strange that they were not discovered during submission.
Once again - it is issue only for 12+ session with WiFi players.
Unbelievable story.

Good news - we made some additional minor improvements.

P.S. I wasn't posting on forum - because after latest update on update, publisher's forbids to tell anything about updates at all on public. I guess, now it is not an issue, so I've posted info.

what about 360?

Great, thanks for that Anton, Very much appreciated :)

anton is the 360 patch not coming or something?

Yes, we need info on 360 patch also PLEASE.
In four weeks time will we get the Xbox patch too????

thats just wonderful , he pops online . posts about the irrellevent version of the game , then leaves

"irrelevant version of the game"?? :rolleyes:

Thanks for the update Anton.

yes , the version that is irellevent to more than half the people who bought it

Thanks for the info :). Good to finally know what the actual problem was. Let's hope it passes Sony's check right away this time :rolleyes:.

I've not seen the sales figures, but it seems a bit foolish to say that one platform is irrelevant just because its slightly in the minority.
And besides that, most of the people on these boards seem to be PS3 players....

Seriously Anton, What is the deal w/ the 360? Are we getting a patch or not?

As the other update threads mentioned, the first patch would be for ps3, after which they'd send it to Microsoft. So you wouldn't see the xbox patch first, the next step is the ps3 release, which we've known quite a while now. So that's what they give us news about. The xbox patch will probably follow the ps3 patch shortly.

Спасибо очень товаришь разработчик.

As far as I've heard there's no problems with the 360 patch and it's finished, it's just the PS3 patch that didn't come through. The XBOX patch has definitely been sent to MS, and haven't heard it's come back with problems.

360 update will be no earlier, than PS3 will pass.
As it was originally planned.

Hey, I have work to do also.

Thank you Anton, I dont care if its any earlier or not, just wanted to make sure microsoft wasn't enough of a pain in the ass to warrant dropping support.

Cheers!

AX

It wasn't platformholders - yet. It was publisher's QA.
Let's hope, it will pass Sony from first attempt.

Awesome! Can't wait for the update. Also a quick question, are the German cockpits included in the patch or will they be in DLC? Either way is fine, i'd buy them just to support this game.

I think what he was trying to say is that the patches will be released at the same time: the XBOX not before the PS3 one. The XBOX update should be ready.
They said it would be included in the update.

Alright! News! I am kinda glad the patch releases in 3 weeks (crosses fingers), that gives me time to play CoD 6 till the awe wears off, and come back to IL-2 fresh. Fixing other issues? Cool, I hope we can see the flight models on everything but the ruskie and brit planes recieved a tune up, those fly decent... Almost there guys, dont despair! (p.s. didnt guiltyspark get banned before? Was it for excessive dorking? Because I read his posts, and for some reason I get the urge to grab him and dunk his head in a toilet then flush it like 3 times...more if he keeps wimpering.)

Actually last time I checked, the game had sold 0.14 million on PS3 and 0.12 million on XBox. But thanks for contributing. You represented yourself well...


Cheers for the info, Anton. Great news, and great work :)

thing is you didnt check a real source

Thanks for the news Anton, and thanks for a great game. But I'm still wondering why 360 people have to wait for the update to get through Sony?

No, it is exactly as said.
X360 update is going to be tested after PS3 will pass :(

It will be in next update, not this one. This one was expected to be 'fast' :(

No clue, actually.
Probably, because of 1st parties policy or something like that.

This isn't strictly a question about the update, but will we be getting the A6M2 Zero in the Wings of Prey trailer as part of a future DLC pack?

In other words, lawyers. Now I understand.

That is not good.
It's sounded like we've been lucky 505 has even agreed to this current title update. To say the cockpits come in the next one doesn't sound very promising. Have they already agreed to fund another update? If not, perhaps we should just not expect to get the cockpits?
The way 505 has apparently been treating this, I'm thinking we should just forget about the possibility rather than keep our hopes up.

wait, are you saying that the PS3 update will be ready in 3 weeks (like you said in this topics first post), and after that, the xbox update will be tested?
Does it mean we can expect the update in 6 weeks or ?

Thank you Anton :)

Hmmmm.... And where's the "real" source then?

Thanks for the update Anton. Can't wait :D

Any idea how long after the update, the next DLC comes out? is there going to be anymore DLC??

haha this just keeps getting better and better

so now the cockpits are not coming in update like they said right from the start but coming in the next update sorry but i smell a rat here

i think the publishers have seen a way to make more money out of us and release the cockpits as dlc that way they can charge us for it

lets look at it logicaly how many times have you yourselfs or someone on this forum mentioned the german cockpits ?? now the publishers are not dumb they have picked up on this and now they want to charge us for them money grabbing *****s

i think anton and crew have done a great job but why oh why did they decide to go with 505 games all 505 have done is screw over anton and his loyal customers


please anton dont make the sequal for 505 get a better publisher please mate :(

hahahahahahahahahaha so you guys are still waiting, for a patch thats gonna need another patch thats gonna need another patch..

Yep.:rolleyes:

It's not like BoP is the only game on the shelf.

How do you know? What do you consider a "real" source? Given that you've made this statement without knowing any antecedent information.

I could provide links, but... Why should I bother, when all I'm doing is disproving one stupid statement from you in response to one of your previous stupid statements. And no doubt you have many more...

Life is too short.

505 / 1c company are a great publisher

without them il2 BOP wouldnt have even been published. a flight sim on a console would be looked at as a potential non seller. 505 games took a big monetary risk publishing the title with no knowledge of what a sales outcome would be , they were suprised with the great sales of the title and are most likely in the future going to bring some more of the more PC centric titles to consoles as a result.

As far as this ps3 first and 360 at a later time bullshit is concerned , i have never EVER heard of this. They release patches for both systems at the same time all the time. i think there is just some lack of communication between dev and publisher

because there are nearly twice as many 360 systems out there as ps3's

its basic math

the 360 sold more by a wide margin

basicmath
 

Listen dickhead,

Its numberof game sales, not console sales.....

not once in the history of this generation has a multiplatform game sold better on ps3

not once

its simple math , there are more 360 owners , alot more

bla bla bla et bla

who care about this....:confused:

evidently you do by even quoting me

lol vg charts?
are you this stupid?

You realize VG charts is off of the actual NPD statistics every single month by sometimes hundreds of thousands of units right? That website was founded by a neogaf fanboy who literally calls up corperate offices of (select) retailers to find the income made by certian software (of which cannot be calculated due to things like shipping irregularities and packaging of collector editions)

Not to mention they do not cover all of the retailers that sell games , mainly they just go through gamestop in the USA due to the fact they are the only ones who give out the info.

By posting that "source" you are mearly just proving to everyone around you that you are a gullible little tyke who believes that if there is a pretty website giving you retail numbers , then it must be real data.

Its all estimates , you are linking me guesses.

good job bro

owned

Hey, I could've told ya that 5 years ago, but no one listened?!

see? told ya.

No it's retardo-maths. LMAO OMG I knew you had many more, but I didn't realise we hadn't seen the best yet.

So this is your "real" source is it? Because you reckon?

OK, because you're obviously more inclined to spout drivel than to look something up for yourself, here:

BoP 360 sales vs BoP PS3 sales


EDIT: also, if you go to the home page of that site, you may notice that your rose-tinted XBox specs are collecting dust. Unless you choose to forget there are countries besides the USA. And even (console) sales figures need to be taken with a pinch of salt because of hardware failure rates (of which I believe the 360 is the current leader by a long stretch).

But I'm sure you've considered all this.

In your face Xbox360 users!

It is only fair, I mean you got the demo first, now we get the patch first!

By the way

PS3 RULES!!!

What if we use both systems? :P Actually, I purchased BoP for PS3 only. ;)

I thought I would never see the day when this forum would get a console fanboy war. What happened to the mature people on this forum, I guess we need the patch so that everybody stops bitching. :evil:

Really Really couldnt agree more

look asshole i couldnt care less if they sold more copys of bop on xbox or ps3

so you came onto this thread saw a gapping wound and decided to pure some salt on it and start a consol fanboy war! typical you still havnt evolved into anything more than a forum troll :evil:

whats that you say you want prove.....

well look at your last post on this thread
i have to commend you!!
you managed to screw up any credability you had in one single word lmao

you shouldnt care less , you were not a part of the conversation you ******* retard.

C'mon guys.
 

Let's try to show some class around here.

Hey buddy I have warned you in the past about your language.
And no they don't always release patches for both systems at the same time. So get over the fanboy attitude and don't try to make this a console war. Xbox receives stuff all the time before the ps3.

(Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising), I know you've heard of this game because of your comments you made in the past about it.
Xbox received the patch two weeks ago and ps3 isn't getting it till or after the 26th. So you are wrong.

Please refrain from using foul language.

Cussing is only going to fuel the fire please everyone watch what you type.

could we have a biatch-o-meter (tm) for threads...one that goes up to 11 :rolleyes:
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Update will be submitted to Sony today.
Will take two weeks to get approved (hopefully) by Sony.

Great, cheers Anton.

Fingers crossed

Any specifics on what the update will change, besides the latency issues? Like a changelog, maybe? That would cut down on the number of questions, since there are about 1000 changes requested in the "suggestions" thread. What were the winning suggestions

too little, too late. Do they think there's more than a handful of people to release a TU to???

Cool
 

Cool,2-3 weeks for ps3 update.Longer for the Xbox update.Most Xmas games will be picked by then.Forza and CODMW2 will have its new content download by then.and forza has three new CDL between now and then .Yes This game will Be GOOD and DEAD by then.Hats off to all involved ..

CODMW2 is one of the fastest returned games I have ever seen. In my local store there is already a full shelf of 360 and PS3 pre-owned versions, where as the PC version has not sold a single box.

And to be fair, Forza 3 is an MS title. It has millions spent on making it, and MS know that the DLC packs are a great way to milk the fanbase for more money for data that could and should have been free and in the title at release. Dont forget that most DLC is actually created before the game is even released.

No patch is ever "to late", getting one is good in any time frame. Just be thankfull this game is actually getting one. I have seen countless games in the past that were never patched once and were broken beyong belief.

I have been playing the game for less time than you guys. I got it only about a month ago since it was not available in Mexico.

The game is fantastic as it is. Sure, the P51D feels like flying a riding mower, however I am able to shoot down 4 Bf109G-6 veteran drones in training mode with it. I love to ZnB with the Emil on a flight of Hurries and tear them up.

The patch will be welcome when it comes. In the meantime I'm enjoying my game as much as I can.

Assuming his error margin is roughly consistent, the ratio of the sales figures is still representative of the fact. Prick. I don't care if the figures are true - you raised an issue of relativity not absoluteness.

And I'm not the fool that quotes himself to add one word.


EDIT: toned it down. Sorry trk - this just got back on topic. I promise I'll ignore any further posts from guiltyspark :)

Yeah, like Asobo's FUEL. I loved it, but man was it broken!!! And not one teeny weeny patch ever turned up!

And why should PC gamers buy IW's crap PC version? They tried to shove a console game down PC gamer's throats.

1. No dedicated server
2. No lean function
3. NO tools for level editing, means no mods
4. No control of your game experiene - no kicks, no bans

Hackers have already destroyed online play for the PC version. Players can't kick or ban them.

What is IW's response to the hack so far? To have videos of the hack removed from youtube to keep it quiet.

Expect to see more of this crap as developers design games on consoles first and port that junk straight to the PC version - you'll be lucky if they don't start requiring you to use a gamepad on your PC.

I hope this console generation last a LONG time, so more players go back to playing better looking and more sophisticated games on PC.

I bet a year from now, way more PC gamers will be playing the first MW than are playing MW2. I know I will. I cancelled my MW2 order as soon as I learned about the lack of dedicated server.

no cockpits in the update?! what did i miss? we have been informed for over a month that the update would include the missing cockpits and now they're not in it?

when did this happen?

Just now I guess... first time I heard as well.

no cockpits oh well at least we got us an easter egg to make up for it lmao!!

Anton did say they were going to try to get the 109 in and maybe the 190. But I guess publisher told them otherwise...

That's just my speculation.

+1

haha that was my first thought too!
And I would put money on the fact that most the MW2 returns are from single player only players, coz the MP is super addictive!

It doesn't matter too much to me how long the update will be, I know I will always come back to BoP, although no MP adversaries will be sad

this is kinda what im thinking at the mo do i hang on to bop till the update comes or trade it in but if i do hold on is it gonna be worth it if there isnt gonna be anyone left online to play against ?:(

Depends how partial you are to the occasional ruck with several AI drones. Bearing in mind the AI is getting a face lift in the patch too...

BoP will never be leaving my collection.

OK
 

I will not address the difference between COD and FORZA compared to this game.its hard to compare games that sold MILLIONS of copys and has TENS OF Thousand's of players on EVERY night.To a game selling in the thousand`s and had 6 guys playing last night.

What ever is in the update,When ever it comes out,it does not matter.The damage is done,the community has dwindled and the game is in the last troughs of death.

By time the update hits even CPR will not save it.

... but your still posting on the forum :confused:

right there with you gunny, they pissed about and neglected the fans, to earn a cheap buck. And they've paid for it.

And the reason we still post on the forums Cyclone, is because most of the people here are good people, and we all play other games together, and this is a good community, which means we dont have to stop posting just because the game THIS forum is based on, is a very poor effort, filled with broken promises.

1 easter egg, for promised cockpits is NOT acceptable.

So yes we still post.

And play, if I can get over my current Borderlands addiction. :) Oooooh noooo it's calling meeeee!!

lol i hear that :) im engrossed in CoD at the mo, struggling with the decision to prestige or not :) Do I want the extra create a class slot???? :)

yep don't have a problem with that, just saying most of the 'too little too late' stuff has been said a hundred times already.

I paid 30 quid for the game and I've got 30 quids worth of enjoyment out of it easily. Single player campaign is worth 30 quid on it's own.

well when i prestiged in cod 4 i instantly regreted it lol i mean there is more than enough class slots as is i mean i have a sniper class a assualt class and my special ninja class akimbo p90s with rapid fire etc so i dont see the point myself unless you want the spangley badge you get for it ???


oh and house i got the stingers now mate awsome i must have shot down hundreds of choppers and harriers lol ive even got the rewards for shooting down so many lol :grin:

you can instantly tell which one is me as soon as a enermy chopper/harrier appears im the one who breaks cover looking skyward with a stinger lol like a dog after a bone :-P

i LOVE the stinger, its amazing, I've tried to get into the javelin, but its just nowhere near as good, and you only get 1 round, whereas with the stinger you get 2 rounds, and that extra round makes ALL the difference!

Did you know that a Javelin missile costs £60,000 a shot?

but yeah so far I've only shot down one chopper with the Javelin, and accidentally killed 3 team mates.

Whereas with the Stinger I've shot down over 100 air vehicles, and NOT killed any team mates :)

LOL, the Javelin is good because you can lock onto the bomb/flag site. WhenI play Sabotage, I just find somewhere and lock onto the bomb, let it fly and get like 2-4 kills XD

lol you sure you killed them by accident ?? once or twice ive killed a team mate ussually the gobby one who is getting on my nerves purely by accident tho i swear ;)

LOL standard practise for me is to open the score board as soon as the match starts, and mute everyone whether they're talking or not.

I know I hate the new "You cant be in a party" thing, that REALLY sucks, I hope they get rid of that.

However, my friends and I have discovered a fun game... finding new and ingenious ways to annoy the other people into muting us.

As immature as that sounds, it has actually lead to us meeting some really cool players who like to use tactics and teamwork.

With Cyclone70, this thread is about BOP title update, you want to post COD related comments then start a thread on that! Us BOP players can skip it as of 'absolutely no interest'...........:rolleyes:

Great that there is news about the title update crap that its ps3 first :P
Just wish there where more players in my timezone, tried last night to have some fun but well i can only play around 3-4 am because then americans come on.
Almost everyone i know in my own timezone isnt even playing the game anymore.
:(

dont like it? dont post, ignore it and read on.

Actually he is right this thread has went off topic and is about the title update. Sorry just posting forum rules.

you'd think they could just import some nice cockpits from the earlier pc versions of IL-2, as they undoubtedly already exist.

Targetware, a free user-created sim in beta, has great cockpits for its German planes. You have to control everything in the plane, too, fuel mixture, fuel tanks, wheel brakes, weapon selection, etc. And there's no HUD, so you actually HAVE to look at the cockpit instruments.

The thing I don't like about having to look at the instruments is that the only really practical way to do it is with TrackIR.. which is way too expensive. Else you'd be messing around with your hatswitch all the time, trying to center it, you'd probably need zoom, etc.

It's pretty easy with a controller.

I know a controller is not in the spirit of a flight sim but, consoles don't ship with a flight stick.

Stay tuned
 

Boys and girls,The question still to be answered..Will our fearless heroes wait another weekend before rescue.Will the evil lords of B.S save the dieing hero of internet pilots IL-2 .Or will they allow another weekend to go by, all the wile the evil lords of CODMW2 and forza3 steal the community.Will our heros act or stay in the bat cave.STAY TUNED .maybe next month same bat time same bat channel SAME BAT BS.

If you're placing so much emphasis on the patch, I think you're missing the point of the game and would probably be better off playing MW2 or something instead. Because that game is in no need of any patching whatsoever.

If you can't have fun with the game as is, then the patch isn't going to fix that for you.

DING DING DING! We have a winner!

Thats precisely the point, and in a nutshell.

Must admit the Patch moaning is getting soooooo tedious! Enjoy the game as is. Thankfully, lots of us do excatly that!

Well said, this game came out in great shape out of the box. Some tweaks would be nice in the MP, but not what you would consider a "patch" and hardly necessary to make it a great game.

lol no it bloody didn't, its half made, and BADLY coded, its broken, and is NOT great out of the box, hence the dwindling numbers, dont get me wrong its a good effort (sort of) but lets not kid ourselves. The only reason you think its great and you have everyone elses support, is because everyone else has left.

Now I've traded this disgusting half arsed attempt of a game, and I have no regrets, and I've already said why I stay around because of the good people myself and others have met here. But you guys are delusional, you are quite correct, the Patch will not fix a THING, because they have lied to you, there will be no cockpits as promised, and the GLARING flaws that everyone noticed the first afternoon of playing, will NOT be fixed.

SO lets not get all high and mighty playing the "No, because you think its crap and we don't, you're wrong, and because one person disagrees, we're the winners" you need to learn one thing, NO-ONE WINS, you lost hard earned cash to people who haven't earnt it, and those that bought it in high hopes lost out because we were lied to, and dealt a crap coaster.

And you accept that people who have made AMAZING PC versions, have made a simply appauling and disgraceful Console version. Don't hold them as heroes, hold them as ACCOUNTABLE!

How the HELL can you say this was perfect as is out the box?

Fly the P-51, fly the P-47, look at the range of motion of the gun turrets, look at the TERRIBLE net code, look at the dwindling numbers. I'm not saying GIVE UP, but what I am saying is, stop kidding yourselves that this is an amazing game that they can just give up on and say "meh, we''ve done enough"

I'm a VERY experienced Flight Simmer, I LOVE my flightsims, I LOVE IL-2 Series on the PC, But the xbox release was nothing short of an insult, and they let themselves down badly, partly by releasing a half finished game with no cockpits, which they arent even going to release as promised. but also they elt themselves down by hiring a simply AWEFUL publishing company.

Now you can flame and disagree if you wish, I'm not interested, but at least look at what you're typing, and playing, and be honest with yourselves.

I wanted this to be amazing, I waited a very long time eagerly watching this game, I thought it would hark back to my air warrior days, and was going to be amazing, and I, like a great many others have been sorely disappointed. We recognise that consoles are limited, e.g. we cant have 200 people in one match like you could on the PC, and we could ignore the pittiful room limits, BUT the glaring coding problems can't be ignored, and if you sit there typing your "It's amazing" BS, then you are ignoring very important problems. Because THIS game will get ignored, and the gamer's theyve insulted who paid £40 for an unfinished and unsupported game, will NOT buy a sequal if they even get to make one. And that is a great shame for all Simmers everywhere.

Because do you know how it will play out? People will say "That's why no-one creates sims for consoles, because the gamer's don't want them, Sims should stay on PC" but console gamers DO want them, we really, really do! but if you release an unfinished game, with no updates, and overpriced DLC that is also poor quality, then the gamers will be penalised for the publishers and developer's inabilities to do their jobs properly. And that goes for ALL Devs and Publishers, I'm not just singling out this game and it's team. Take Codemaster's abismal attempt at a very good and Classic Game, OpFlash1 was brilliant, it had its bugs and problems, but they did their best, but for the time it was great. But OpFlash2, is just aweful, and they've released 1 patch and given in to some of the communities requests, and that's a nice start, but the amount of problems with that game will never be able to be patched because they're too badly engrained in the coding. Not like IL-2 which COULD be fixed if they can be bothered.

But once again, low sales, and poor reviews, and people trading in the game, will lead people to say "Console gamers dont want sims" and that's not fair.

So yes people deserve to be berated for failing the gamers, because the gamers will suffer, NOT the companies.

Read all this / Don't read all this, Flame me / Don't flame me, Agree / disaggree, I don't care, WE WILL SUFFER because of people producing crap games, which SHOULD have been good.