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moozicmon 11-03-2009 01:54 AM

what the hell happened while I was away!?!
 
Greetings all,

The gods decided to bless me with both an RROD AND throw my MBP in a tizzy so I have been gone from the BOP community. I return to find it in chaos. What the hell is going on with this patch?!? Die hard fans are abandoning this game at an astonishing rate. I have yet to find a game on realistic with more than one person AND MW2 comes out tomorrow :(.

Is there any hope for this game?

mattd27 11-03-2009 01:59 AM

MW2 is on the 10th I'm pretty sure. ;)

And I like to think there's still a bit of hope left down there somewhere. It's not like I can be one of those "yeah this sucks I'm going back to 1946" guys.:(

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx 11-03-2009 02:01 AM

Most are just fed up waiting for a patch that may never come out...

moozicmon 11-03-2009 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mattd27 (Post 116910)
MW2 is on the 10th I'm pretty sure. ;)

And I like to think there's still a bit of hope left down there somewhere. It's not like I can be one of those "yeah this sucks I'm going back to 1946" guys.:(

Ha, I had my calender open and was looking at the wrong week :rolleyes: Daylight savings is
really fookin' with my head

mattd27 11-03-2009 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moozicmon (Post 116913)
Ha, I had my calender open and was looking at the wrong week :rolleyes: Daylight savings is
really fookin' with my head

Daylight savings is awesome.:) I felt so great all day today because it felt like I had gotten an extra hour of sleep.:)

*achem* Slightly more in the general direction of the topic, if BoP really does go under (god forbid!), are there still alot of guys out there playing Ace 6? That seems like a great game to get into for some modern jet action. If it's still got a good community it might make a good fail safe for me.

Still, I'm really hoping this whole thing will just blow over with the arrival of the patch.:)

dazz1971 11-03-2009 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xX-SiLeNCE-Xx (Post 116911)
Most are just fed up waiting for a patch that may never come out...

i dont think it will come out i think its been abandoned
look at it this way
ofdr came out way after bop and look at the chaos on there forums over the bugs that game had anybody would think codemasters had raped and killed you grandmother!!!!
but guess what they said a patch was on its way last week and today they released a post saying its been passed by sony and microsoft and will be avalible in the next few days
they actually cared about the fact that the game was broken in parts and customers were upset about it so they got things moving and got the patch out before too much damage was done

now why cant 505games do that the devs made the patch for them with there own money so it hasnt cost 505 a dime to make and yet nothing no statments they dont answer emails nada nill nothing
doesnt look good does it ???:evil:

dazz1971 11-03-2009 02:15 AM

oh and matt i got ace combat 6 and there are loads of games on there still mate ive never failed to get into a match within minutes buddy looks like that is gonna be the only flight sim option for 360 users only thing i dont like about ace 6 is the 86 missiles and unlimeted guns etc kinda spoils it abit but still a great game to get into and most of the action ive had online has been up close and personal no shooting at black specs from 20 miles away :grin::grin:

flynlion 11-03-2009 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazz1971 (Post 116917)
oh and matt i got ace combat 6 and there are loads of games on there still mate ive never failed to get into a match within minutes buddy looks like that is gonna be the only flight sim option for 360 users

Ace Combat as NOT a flight sim, not by any stretch. BoP isn't really a flight sim either but at least it is an attempt, albeit a flawed one.

Draupnir2 11-03-2009 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flynlion (Post 116936)
Ace Combat as NOT a flight sim, not by any stretch. BoP isn't really a flight sim either but at least it is an attempt, albeit a flawed one.

I totally agree. I sold AC6 after a few weeks. It doesnt even come close to BoP.

dazz1971 11-03-2009 11:09 AM

that maybe true but at least it works and you can find games to join online unlike bop where i could sit around for hours to maybe find 2/3 games have a very limited choice of planes as most of them dont fly like they should


BOP = long tedious hours trying to find a game but when you do its very good fun

ACE6 = instant fun online loads of planes to choose as they all work correct

i wasnt bashing bop and trying to big up ace6 i was simply answering mattd question regarding ace6 :(

Ancient Seraph 11-03-2009 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dazz1971 (Post 116974)
(..)
ACE6 = instant fun online loads of planes to choose as they all work correct
(..)

Have you actually done research on the planes in AC6? I'm guessing that a lot of it won't work out to be correct. I've tried the online multiplayer, but it's just like BoP Arcade: you won't stall, you can turn as sharply as you want, and it's obvious to see where everybody is.
For me AC6 online is rubbish, although I like the SP (inverse of what I normally like :P).

mattd27 11-03-2009 11:34 AM

Ace 6 definitely isn't realistic, that's pretty much an undisputed fact I think. But it should be pretty fun for an alternative when I can't get a game on BoP and need a flight "sim" fix on my 360. ;)

caphead 11-03-2009 01:10 PM

question should be as follows..
"what didnt happen while I was away?!"

Doktorwzzerd 11-03-2009 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flynlion (Post 116936)
Ace Combat as NOT a flight sim, not by any stretch. BoP isn't really a flight sim either but at least it is an attempt, albeit a flawed one.


Really, you don't think the sim mode of BoP is truly a Sim? It seems pretty simmy to me. What makes it not a sim to you?

Ancient Seraph 11-03-2009 03:00 PM

Kind of hard to define 'real sim'. For recreational use BoP is sim enough for me, and I do believe it's in the sim category. Of course it can't be compared to a FNPT II sim, like some people want it to be.

dazz1971 11-03-2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph (Post 116979)
Have you actually done research on the planes in AC6? I'm guessing that a lot of it won't work out to be correct. I've tried the online multiplayer, but it's just like BoP Arcade: you won't stall, you can turn as sharply as you want, and it's obvious to see where everybody is.
For me AC6 online is rubbish, although I like the SP (inverse of what I normally like :P).

funny but i dont remember actually saying ace6 was a realistic sim ???
i remember saying it is fun to play and you can allways find a game online without waiting ages tho ??

oh and come to think i did mention the realism of ace combat the point i made about it being unrealistic becuse you start of with 80 odd missiles and unlimited guns !!!

maybe you should do some reaserch before you decide to jump on everybodys post with your holyer than tho attitude ???

90% percent of your posts are beating ppl down for not posting in the right thread ! or maybe when you are jumping on ppl for starting a thread when there might allready be a simular thread allready (how dare they!!)
or just plain beating ppl down becuse you happen to know something better than they do !!!

why dont you just go and ask the admin to make you a mod allready or get over yourself

sorry but in the last week your posts have been grating me quite a lot

Ancient Seraph 11-03-2009 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazz1971 (Post 117017)
funny but i dont remember actually saying ace6 was a realistic sim ???
i remember saying it is fun to play and you can allways find a game online without waiting ages tho ??

oh and come to think i did mention the realism of ace combat the point i made about it being unrealistic becuse you start of with 80 odd missiles and unlimited guns !!!

maybe you should do some reaserch before you decide to jump on everybodys post with your holyer than tho attitude ???

90% percent of your posts are beating ppl down for not posting in the right thread ! or maybe when you are jumping on ppl for starting a thread when there might allready be a simular thread allready (how dare they!!)
or just plain beating ppl down becuse you happen to know something better than they do !!!

why dont you just go and ask the admin to make you a mod allready or get over yourself

sorry but in the last week your posts have been grating me quite a lot

Calm down, cowboy. Wasn't attacking anyone, sorry if you felt I did. Was just commenting on the "all planes work correct" part. I don't have any facts, but I'm guessing the planes work just as correct in AC6 as in BoP.

As a reaction on the personal attack: find 5 posts in which I complain it's in the wrong thread, and find 5 posts in which I think the OP shouldn't have created the thread because it's a double. Good luck.
As for the mod comment: I can see how people think that, excuse me for wanting a nice forum. The only people that really seem to mind are those that my comments are aimed at. If there's others, feel free to not post it on the forums.

MorgothNL 11-03-2009 05:21 PM

What happened when you were away?... reading the replies in this thread at least tells you what it did to the people :rolleyes:

dazz1971 11-03-2009 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph (Post 117026)

As a reaction on the personal attack: find 5 posts in which I complain it's in the wrong thread, and find 5 posts in which I think the OP shouldn't have created the thread.

sorry but i have better things to spend my time on like cooking rice crispy cakes with my step daughter

maybe later i will if i can be arsed
but ive said my piece and im not going to justify it

flynlion 11-03-2009 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doktorwzzerd (Post 116999)
Really, you don't think the sim mode of BoP is truly a Sim? It seems pretty simmy to me. What makes it not a sim to you?

Hi Doc
A flight sim is a tool designed to train pilots in correct procedures by acurately "simulating" aircraft performance and handling characteristics. BoP, while it is lotsa fun, in no way replicates an actual aircraft. Take spin recovery, for example. In most aircraft, particularly a high powered prop driven one, the 2 steps in spin recovery are 1) power to idle and 2) opposite rudder. In many cases the plane simply flies itself out once power is reduced. BoP probably requires a different technique because the rudder and throttle are so difficult to employ seperately in the game, so it is understandable. Just don't try the BoP technique in a real plane (ouch!) LoL. But why are so many of the flight models so messed up? Why does the Spitfire try to snap roll every time you pull any G, when anyone who ever flew the real thing claimed that it "had no vices" ? Why does the FW190 Butcher Bird fly like a piece of bird crap? Please understand that I am NOT trying to bash the game, it is in fact one of my favorites. I just think that a true "Flight Sim" should be closer to the real thing. BoP is a toy, and that's fine 'cause we like toys. BoP is in fact a lot more fun than most "simulators" that I've dealt with in the past LoL

David603 11-04-2009 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flynlion (Post 117126)
Hi Doc
A flight sim is a tool designed to train pilots in correct procedures by acurately "simulating" aircraft performance and handling characteristics. BoP, while it is lotsa fun, in no way replicates an actual aircraft. Take spin recovery, for example. In most aircraft, particularly a high powered prop driven one, the 2 steps in spin recovery are 1) power to idle and 2) opposite rudder. In many cases the plane simply flies itself out once power is reduced. BoP probably requires a different technique because the rudder and throttle are so difficult to employ seperately in the game, so it is understandable. Just don't try the BoP technique in a real plane (ouch!) LoL. But why are so many of the flight models so messed up? Why does the Spitfire try to snap roll every time you pull any G, when anyone who ever flew the real thing claimed that it "had no vices" ? Why does the FW190 Butcher Bird fly like a piece of bird crap? Please understand that I am NOT trying to bash the game, it is in fact one of my favorites. I just think that a true "Flight Sim" should be closer to the real thing. BoP is a toy, and that's fine 'cause we like toys. BoP is in fact a lot more fun than most "simulators" that I've dealt with in the past LoL

If you don't like the Spitfire's handling, turn down the elevator sensitivity about 5 notches in the options menu, and you will end up with a plane that will hardly ever stall and can out turn a La7 easily. Can't fix the Dora9 though, because it is rather slower than it should be, and even with the elevator sensitivity turned down it is vicious to fly, but hopefully this is one of the planes that is going to have its flight model fixed in the patch.

Come to think of it, most if not all the planes are slower than their real life counterparts, but some (P51D, Spit II, Hurri II etc) are outrun by planes that should be considerably slower.

juz1 11-04-2009 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazz1971 (Post 117040)
sorry but i have better things to spend my time on like cooking rice crispy cakes with my step daughter

nice one...keepin it real..
I love the rice crispy cakes! The ozzies haven't a bloody clue about cakes (and beer but thats another story)...they even put jelly on Cheesecake...URGH!

Golden Crackle cakes over here=rice crispies, coco and lard=FAIL


oh yeah, back on topic..
What's happened since blah blah?
sweet football association
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Pot News

dazz1971 11-04-2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juz1 (Post 117219)
nice one...keepin it real..
I love the rice crispy cakes! The ozzies haven't a bloody clue about cakes (and beer but thats another story)...they even put jelly on Cheesecake...URGH!

Golden Crackle cakes over here=rice crispies, coco and lard=FAIL


oh yeah, back on topic..
What's happened since blah blah?
sweet football association




thanks bud yea we had a great laugh cooking them so today we are gonna do some cornflake ones when she gets back from school we make them with chocolate butter and golden syrup oh and rice crispies/cornflakes lol

i think i checked the fridge to see if they had set more times than my step daughter did lol :-P

Draupnir2 11-04-2009 10:09 PM

Sorry Dazz, I did not mean to bash your game/sim preferences.

It was just that I was so let down by the AC6 storyline and flightmodel, after high hopes after seeing the delicious graphics from the preview shots and videos.

Maybe I was missig out bigtime not exploring it online :)

dazz1971 11-05-2009 12:26 AM

[QUOTE=Draupnir2;117356]Sorry Dazz, I did not mean to bash your game/sim preferences.

It was just that I was so let down by the AC6 storyline and flightmodel, after high hopes after seeing the delicious graphics from the preview shots and videos.

Maybe I was missig out bigtime not exploring it online :)[/QUOTE

:grin::grin:


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