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ironfelix 10-08-2009 10:53 AM

New downloadable content for IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds Of Prey
 
The first round of downloadable content for IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds Of Prey has been released on October 7th for Microsoft’s Xbox LIVE service and on October 8th for Sony’s PlayStation Network. The package adds six new single player missions to the campaign mode across the existing six theatres of war featured in the game. A new plane, the American P47D, previously only available to pre-order customers, is also included.

Stuka28 10-08-2009 08:28 PM

Are any of the bugs fixed

Ancient Seraph 10-08-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuka28 (Post 109662)
Are any of the bugs fixed

Not yet, this will come in the title update. Not certain when it'll come, but I hope in a few weeks.

baldwin8 10-08-2009 10:36 PM

I was just on the network a couple of hours ago and it didn't show anything available for BOP. Is the update released for the North American market as well?

Raw Kryptonite 10-08-2009 10:52 PM

It's dlc, not an update. It came out 2 days ago, not today. (360 that is)

Houndstone Hawk 10-08-2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ironfelix (Post 109425)
The first round of downloadable content for IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds Of Prey has been released on October 7th for Microsoft’s Xbox LIVE service and on October 8th for Sony’s PlayStation Network. The package adds six new single player missions to the campaign mode across the existing six theatres of war featured in the game. A new plane, the American P47D, previously only available to pre-order customers, is also included.

£7.99 on UK PS3? for 6 missions that players could've happily thrown together with great joy & satisfaction, if the trademark mission editor was present? and for 1 and a half airplanes? (being that only 1 plane having a cockpit & even that one's in the 'game' already as a big glaring mistake). And to fly said planes on said missions with the same broken 'game'?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I'll have the laugh for you shall I?

PERSPECTIVE: £7.49 online buys you IL-2 1946!!!!!

Ancient Seraph 10-08-2009 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk (Post 109723)
£7.99 for 6 missions that players could've happily thrown together if the trademark mission editor was present? and for 1 and a half airplanes? (only plane having a cockpit & even that one's in the 'game' already).

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I'll have the laugh for you shall I?

Dude, seriously. Go send an email to the publishers or whatnot. This forum is visited by the developers. They have practically nothing to do with the price. They try to help us best they can, took into account our feedback for the update, don't go bitching to them about something they can't control. It's disgusting.

MorgothNL 10-08-2009 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk (Post 109723)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I'll have the laugh for you shall I?

PERSPECTIVE: £7.49 online buys you IL-2 1946!!!!!

how the *** is that giving perspective:confused: . Did you go 'what the heck, 65 bucks for COD5?? --> perspective: COD1 is 5 bucks online!'.
How can you compare anything to the price of a 10 year old game... srsly
This game was at least 15 bucks cheaper than any other new release, so you still have 'saved' money even if you buy the DLC.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I will laugh for myself, but not at the DLC, but at you.


srlsy, try to post something to help people, help the devs make a better sequel... anything. But dont rant about 8 bucks you cheapskate

Houndstone Hawk 10-09-2009 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MorgothNL (Post 109734)
how the *** is that giving perspective:confused: . Did you go 'what the heck, 65 bucks for COD5?? --> perspective: COD1 is 5 bucks online!'.
How can you compare anything to the price of a 10 year old game... srsly
This game was at least 15 bucks cheaper than any other new release, so you still have 'saved' money even if you buy the DLC.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I will laugh for myself, but not at the DLC, but at you.


srlsy, try to post something to help people, help the devs make a better sequel... anything. But dont rant about 8 bucks you cheapskate

An obviously below par comeback to be expected from someone that thinks a 'buck' & a UK 'pound' are of the same worth. Try something like '13' bucks & you're pretty much there.

Regards.

The Cheapskate

Sherbanator 10-09-2009 12:09 AM

I'm not gonna even talk about the price anymore.

But can someone tell me if this game pack has any trophies/achievements? I don't think it has, but could be surprised

Ancient Seraph 10-09-2009 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sherbanator (Post 109737)
I'm not gonna even talk about the price anymore.

Thanks.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherbanator (Post 109737)
But can someone tell me if this game pack has any trophies/achievements? I don't think it has, but could be surprised

It does not.

MorgothNL 10-09-2009 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk (Post 109736)
An obviously below par comeback to be expected from someone that thinks a 'buck' & a UK 'pound' are of the same worth. Try something like '13' bucks & you're pretty much there.

Regards.

The Cheapskate

yeah, lets focus on the number '8' , instead of the point that you compare this game with a 10 year old title.

Anyways, the 8 bucks was just a number I found somewhere else on this forum. I have a xbox, so I didnt see the PS3 price myself. And no, I do not think the UK pound and buck are the same. I;ve never mentioned the UK pound anywhere. I use euros, and those actually are about the same as bucks.

I will stop the name calling here. So you dont get tunnelvision and can focus more on the rest of my post. And try to find a counter argument for that.

Sherbanator 10-09-2009 12:30 AM

Ok, everyone is titled to there opinion. It's just a shame the PS3 DLC and the Xbox DLC is priced differently.

I'm sure some of you Xbox users would not be mega impressed if it was priced £3.99 - $5.99 on the PS3 and yet it be 800M$ on the XBox.

But could an XBox user tell me if they think it's worth the £7.99 price tag on the PS3?

towman 10-09-2009 12:31 AM

It is US$9.99 on the PlayStation(R)Store, 6 new campaign missions and 2 planes: P-47D and the Ta-152.

No matter how you look at it it is overpriced, sure there are no competing DLCs in this genre, but but asking 1/5th of the price of the original game for 1/20th of content...

Ancient Seraph 10-09-2009 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherbanator (Post 109746)
Ok, everyone is titled to there opinion. It's just a shame the PS3 DLC and the Xbox DLC is priced differently.

I'm sure some of you Xbox users would not be mega impressed if it was priced £3.99 - $5.99 on the PS3 and yet it be 800M$ on the XBox.

But could an XBox user tell me if they think it's worth the £7.99 price tag on the PS3?

I don't mind anyone giving an opinion, as long as they don't do it in a demeaning or otherwise insulting way.
I can say I would mind if the prices were the other way around, but would probably blame MS right away, instead of ranting about it on a forum where there's nobody to blame.
Here's a very nice review by PedroTheGoat. Try that.

Sherbanator 10-09-2009 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph (Post 109749)
I don't mind anyone giving an opinion, as long as they don't do it in a demeaning or otherwise insulting way.
I can say I would mind if the prices were the other way around, but would probably blame MS right away, instead of ranting about it on a forum where there's nobody to blame.
Here's a very nice review by PedroTheGoat. Try that.

See i did not know Sony and Microsoft gave the prices. I assumed it was the developers choice.

I just hope for future DLC (whatever the price) they will add some more trophy/achievements. Oh and a Lancaster bomber

Houndstone Hawk 10-09-2009 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MorgothNL (Post 109740)
yeah, lets focus on the number '8' , instead of the point that you compare this game with a 10 year old title.

Anyways, the 8 bucks was just a number I found somewhere else on this forum. I have a xbox, so I didnt see the PS3 price myself. And no, I do not think the UK pound and buck are the same. I;ve never mentioned the UK pound anywhere. I use euros, and those actually are about the same as bucks.

I will stop the name calling here. So you dont get tunnelvision and can focus more on the rest of my post. And try to find a counter argument for that.

I'd be honoured sir. You do realise that IL-2 1946 (the title I mentioned remember?) was released in December of 2006. By my reckoning, that's 7 years out by your extremely weak argument. Yes the original was founded 9 years ago but 1946 raised the bar with all new content, aircraft, sceneries, campaigns.
COD1 if my memory serves me right (I'm not too well up on arcade shooters) was released in 2004, before the next gen consoles even.
1946 landed in a time when the 360 had been out more than a year & it shone as brightly as the titles of the time.

Compare a combat flight sim with over 250 flyable, cockpit-given aircraft, unrivalled realism to flight models & characteristics, loads of lengthy campaigns & missions, a simple-to-use mission editor, allowing the player to create every imagineable scenario with ease & confidence, total camera control & fully functioning replays & on ...& on.....

to

COD1. A great 1st person shooter that ... well, lets you shoot the opposition & perform irish 'river dances' as the player weaves & dances his way round thousands of grenades. (Thank the lord for Op. Flashpoint 1).

I don't get phased by name calling & so there's no tunnel vision here. The fact remains that the games industry is going backwards in immersion & content for a higher price & that's why I can readily & openly compare the nowaday price of a 3 year old PC release to a pathetic DLC. Hey sure it's on the PC too. Rise of Flight (latest WWI air combat sim) has all aircraft in the title but half of them are locked down to the user until he or she foots the bill each time.

Ancient Seraph 10-09-2009 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk (Post 109753)
I'd be honoured sir. You do realise that IL-2 1946 (the title I mentioned remember?) was released in December of 2006. By my reckoning, that's 7 years out by your extremely weak argument. Yes the original was founded 9 years ago but 1946 raised the bar with all new content, aircraft, sceneries, campaigns.
COD1 if my memory serves me right (I'm not too well up on arcade shooters) was released in 2004, before the next gen consoles even.
1946 landed in a time when the 360 had been out more than a year & it shone as brightly as the titles of the time.

Compare a combat flight sim with over 250 flyable, cockpit-given aircraft, unrivalled realism to flight models & characteristics, loads of lengthy campaigns & missions, a simply-to-use mission editor, allowing the player to create every imagineable scenario with ease & confidence, total camera control & fully functioning replays & on ...& on.....

to

COD1. A great 1st person shooter that ... well, lets you shoot the opposition & perform irish 'river dances' as the player weaves & dances his way round thousands of grenades. (Thank the lord for Op. Flashpoint 1).

I don't get phased by name calling & so there's no tunnel vision here. The fact remains that the games industry is going backwards in immersion & content for a higher price & that's why I can readily & openly compare the nowaday price of a 3 year old PC release to a pathetic DLC. Hey sure it's on the PC too. Rise of Flight (latest WWI air combat sim) has all aircraft in the title but half of them are locked down to the user until he or she foots the bill each time.

How come you're still on this forum, instead of on the 1946 forum actually making a point or something? I mean, sure, hate the game, whatever, but why bother us with it?

Houndstone Hawk 10-09-2009 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph (Post 109754)
How come you're still on this forum, instead of on the 1946 forum actually making a point or something? I mean, sure, hate the game, whatever, but why bother us with it?

I'm still on this forum because a forum member asked for a response which I have given!!!

MorgothNL 10-09-2009 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk (Post 109753)
I'd be honoured sir. ETC

For the sake of this topic I will stop this discussion.
I could ask why you say I compare COD with IL2. I was Comparing Cod1 with COD5 and BOP with Il2 1946.
Or I could ask why you compare this game to a PC Il-2 + 3 extension packs and 10 updates... not giving this game even the chance to bring 1 update before you judge. (the first IL-2 had only 31 planes).

But... im not going to do that..

So..back on topic:
Got the DLC yesterday, and I personally like it :). The missions are great, too bad the P-47 doesnt fly well though :(. Still a great experience :)

juz1 10-09-2009 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk (Post 109753)
I'd be honoured sir. You do realise that IL-2 1946 (the title I mentioned remember?) was released in December of 2006. By my reckoning, that's 7 years out by your blah blah blah.

your pedantry is epic...

now go troll elsewhere........please
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Houndstone Hawk 10-09-2009 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juz1 (Post 109829)
your pedantry is epic...

now go troll elsewhere........please

Isn't it funny ppl that you only read the words like 'troll' from the true fanboys.
What's pretentious in quoting a fact to rectify a point??? Try again mate!!!!

Pup 10-09-2009 04:54 PM

Regarding the price setting, from threads on here and at yuplay I'm led to believe that its Sony that set the price, yet when I look at the EU PSN blog for this weeks update I see a comment from who I believe is the PSN Store manager in reply to someone who complains that the fallout dlc is too expensive :

Quote:

Again, WE do NOT create the prices for 3rd party content, therefore we are NOT ripping you off.
So, who exactly does set the prices for these dlc packs?

Ancient Seraph 10-09-2009 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pup (Post 109974)
Regarding the price setting, from threads on here and at yuplay I'm led to believe that its Sony that set the price, yet when I look at the EU PSN blog for this weeks update I see a comment from who I believe is the PSN Store manager in reply to someone who complains that the fallout dlc is too expensive :



So, who exactly does set the prices for these dlc packs?

Publishers. Still, I can hardly imagine it was just up to the publishers to set a higher price on the PSN than XBL.

Crusader00001 10-09-2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juz1 (Post 109829)
your pedantry is epic...

now go troll elsewhere........please

shhh...is he gone yet?????

sir70 10-09-2009 07:48 PM

The PS3 disc sold for $50,($60 is the prevailing price for PS3) did the xbox
version sell at a similar reduced price?

Perhaps the publisher wants to make up some of the cost for the blu-ray disc.
Or, bandwidth costs for the upcoming patch.

Bandwidth costs for the dlc can't be offered as a reason, it's not big enough
to justify an additional $5.

Houndstone Hawk 10-09-2009 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader00001 (Post 110031)
shhh...is he gone yet?????

Oh dear .... another one is born!

sir70 10-09-2009 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk (Post 110057)
Oh dear .... another one is born!


I am not a " one ".

I would actually like to know, is the xbox version at the highest price point,
or is it lower?

Ancient Seraph 10-09-2009 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sir70 (Post 110065)
I am not a " one ".

I would actually like to know, is the xbox version at the highest price point,
or is it lower?

It's lower than the usual newly released games, if that's what you meant.

sir70 10-09-2009 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph (Post 110067)
It's lower than the usual newly released games, if that's what you meant.

Well I guess the publisher has no excuse, other than the fact that they
believe PS3 users will pay more(which I did).

I'm not complaining, if I didn't want to pay that much I would have waited
to see if the price dropped.

juz1 10-10-2009 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk (Post 109880)
Isn't it funny ppl that you only read the words like 'troll' from the true fanboys.
What's pretentious in quoting a fact to rectify a point??? Try again mate!!!!

Oh no, a troll has labelled me a true fanboy.:rolleyes:
Pedantry and pretentiousness are unrelated...and I'm not your mate.
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Anton Yudintsev 10-10-2009 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sir70 (Post 110088)
Well I guess the publisher has no excuse, other than the fact that they
believe PS3 users will pay more(which I did).

Agreed. Doesn't make sense :(

IiI GUNNY IiI 10-10-2009 01:31 PM

Any info
 
Is there any info on a date of the title update.
Most U.S Players are a little upset about the only real U.S fighter
the P-51 not having good fight characteristic`s .
and the player numbers are dwindling.We really need this up date to
Boost "lets say " MORAL ..!!

Araqiel 10-10-2009 11:06 PM

This is just a guess, but I heard the reason MS uses points rather than real-world currency on XBLA is for tax reasons. I don't know what the difference works out at in dollar amounts, but it could be that the extra is a tax addition if the % range looks about right. Either way it sucks for you PS3 players to have to pay more for the same thing; moreso if it was a conscious decision on the service provider's behalf, though.

Lexandro 10-11-2009 12:36 AM

Im waiting on the patch before I even consider the DLC pack on LIVE. But as far as it goes for it;

Extra single player missions ; CHECK!
Extra aircraft with cockpit; CHECK!
For sale dirt cheap; CHECK!

So thats 3 outa 3 on my check list, which means its 99% certain I will get it eventually.

Headset 10-11-2009 12:54 AM

Info:

The German XBOX 360 Store has changed the Price for DLC from 400 MS Points to 800 MS Points (German Store).The Price from 400 MS Points seems to be an error (or a gift to XBOX Users). Happy people who get it for 400 MS Points. No difference for DLC Price on XBOX360 and PS3 anymore (German Stores).

Ancient Seraph 10-11-2009 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headset (Post 110293)
Info:

The German XBOX 360 Store has changed the Price for DLC from 400 MS Points to 800 MS Points (German Store).The Price from 400 MS Points seems to be an error (or a gift to XBOX Users). Happy people who get it for 400 MS Points. No difference for DLC Price on XBOX360 and PS3 anymore (German Stores).

That's... odd. Maybe the publishers agreed it wasn't fair, and in stead of lowering PS3 price they raised the XBOX price. That's one way of doing it :rolleyes:
(I have it already though :P)

mattd27 10-11-2009 01:35 AM

I can confirm the price has been raised in the US too. I left a post on the devs forum, and maybe they have some idea about all this.

sabby_po 10-11-2009 06:40 PM

I just registered to say that while I love the game, I will not be purchasing this DLC for $10. Drop it to $5 and you'll get my money.

Good day sirs

Sherbanator 10-11-2009 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabby_po (Post 110416)
I just registered to say that while I love the game, I will not be purchasing this DLC for $10. Drop it to $5 and you'll get my money.

Good day sirs

Well i suppose they sorted out the price difference. Of course they would increase the price for the XBox than lower it on the PS3.

It still would of been nice to hear an official responce from them about this though. If there has then ignore this that comment!

Das_Ubersoldat13 10-11-2009 08:44 PM

it didnt come with any trophies. but It did add at least 20 minuts of single player playing time.. and a new Strike plane in essance.. you can escort your teams B17G.. and drop bombs of your own. that actually DO something.. 2x 1000lbs and 1 500lb bomb... its deadly

NephilimUK 10-12-2009 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Das_Ubersoldat13 (Post 110428)
it didnt come with any trophies. but It did add at least 20 minuts of single player playing time.. and a new Strike plane in essance.. you can escort your teams B17G.. and drop bombs of your own. that actually DO something.. 2x 1000lbs and 1 500lb bomb... its deadly

I'll ditto that..

Sure, it was a pretty steep price (my cash-nipples feel sore from the milking), but hey, no one FORCED me to buy it and, as I like to believe, (however naively), buying this pack may encourage the powers that be to release a bigger, better pack in the future

20 mins eh? :rolleyes: ;)

RCfalcon 10-12-2009 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NephilimUK (Post 110496)
I'll ditto that..

Sure, it was a pretty steep price (my cash-nipples feel sore from the milking), but hey, no one FORCED me to buy it and, as I like to believe, (however naively), buying this pack may encourage the powers that be to release a bigger, better pack in the future

20 mins eh? :rolleyes: ;)

Indeed. It was a little steep, but hey, I've always had a thing for the Jug (or attack planes in general. Maybe its the explosions =D) so I decided to shill out the $10 to get it. I also felt that it might show my support for this game and help to encourage future releases (P-38 lightning? ...please? ^^ lol)

Of course it took 20 minutes. Don't you know how badass Das is? =O

lol

Der Übermensch 10-13-2009 01:12 AM

Hmm... I think I'll wait and see if the price drops...

Lexandro 10-13-2009 01:32 AM

Well since the price has gone up from 400 to 800 LIVE points I wont be buying it now. Sorry but 400 was the correct price for the amount of content it unlocks. 800 is the price of a FULL arcade game on LIVE, and Im not spending that on such a small amount of content for BoP.

Not good enough devs, you need to get on the phone to the publisher and give them an earfull about the price.

RCfalcon 10-13-2009 06:27 AM

Yeah, raising the Xbox price to match the PS3 price was kind of a dick-move. Seems like the better thing to do would be to lower the PS3 price. But that's just me, I guess.

stez_ibanez 10-14-2009 10:02 AM

Wont be buying it at that price, what's the saying "Dick Turpin wore a mask" LOL

Mjollnir1975 10-16-2009 10:13 PM

S!,

I've a bit to say bout this dlc price topic.
First,I've been enjoying this sim on the pc for YEARS. After countless updates and additions that were free I haven't a single prob paying for anything. Yes, the content wasn't what I would consider a ten dollar value BUT, when I look back at all the issues I had with patches to fix varying graphical,flight,damage,and compatibility problems even if they were free and long in coming(read: TWO WEEKS! ;) :lol: ) I do hafta say that more will come. Again: TWO WEEKS! The issue here is one has to realize that years ago Oleg said this title would never come to consoles. And if one figures in the peripherals saitek x-whatever,track ir etc, etc, that a console port of this title is a blessing.
This is a test bed of sorts. To me its surprising the devs didn't sit on this dlc for a bit to flesh it out a lil more. But the fact remains that they did release it. I will pay for the releases just on the strength that it is the ultimate WWII flight sim to date. Bar NONE! Fan boy am I? I dunno.I've raised my share of hell o'er at the other forums for years.The Grumman Avenger being my personal low of the whole danged series. But it is what it is. Ya cant please everyone all the time.I dont know what the devs agree or disagree to as far as the price rates.If they even have a choice. And yeah the Mustang is severely fudged. And I have an issue with the P-47 at WEP and the prop is stationary! :!::shock: I have pics of that! But as with the pc version if ya dont wanna hang 'round, theres always e-bay. Beat feet and try to recoup yer dollars,quid,ducketts or whatever in hades ya call 'em. I'll be here enjoying the utter simplicity of firin' up the ps3 for my quick fix of the most acurate WWII flight on a console. I just hope 1-C sees most of the revenue generated.


In closing, TWO WEEKS!!


S!,
Mjollnir1975

cdogblitz 10-21-2009 02:41 AM

im pretty dissappointed about the dlc. the p-47 is portrayed reallisticly at least but the ta 152 should be much better on the turn much better

Leweegibo 10-21-2009 05:16 AM

I think I'll wait to see what the next dlc will include and it's price, $15 AU is far too much, maybe if we pay this then all future dlc is free I would understand.

I'd expect (at least) 3 planes, a new multiplayer environment/mode and the missions for this price

monyetension 10-23-2009 03:30 AM

oh well...
 
whether i like it or not...you'll have my hard earned money soon...:(

Cheers!

Panzergranate 11-19-2009 06:04 PM

It would be nice if they added the same upgrade line for the Hurricane as they do for the Spitfire and Bf-109.

It would be nice to have the Hurricane II B, Hurricane II C (4 x 20mm. Hispano cannons) and Hurricane II D (2 x 40mm. 2 Pdr. anti-tank guns).

Also the P-36 Hawk and P-40 Warhawk (gutless Alinson engine) and Kittyhawk (Merlin engine). The P-40 was flown by the Russians in defence of Moscow in 1941..... along with Hurricanes.

A DLC with the Finnish Airforce plus maybe a Lenningrad and other suitable Baltic maps would attract my money. I enjoy flying Finnish Gloster Gladiators, Hawks and Buffaloes on IL-2 Forgotten Battles, so I'd quite like to fly them in BOP too.


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