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skullblits 09-26-2009 03:05 AM

This game could die.
 
Heres why i think why, Theres like 4 games coming out next month.
operation flashpoint dragon rising
MW2
Assassins creed 2
& borderlands

I Fear with the Mp problems people may just leave this game & get theses new one's.

Unless this game is patched soon, i fear all will be lost

caphead 09-26-2009 03:28 AM

Im sick of FPS's , so Ill be still waiting patiently for the patch..

trk29 09-26-2009 03:44 AM

I will get OFP and COD MW2 but I am going to be playing this game for a long time I am having to much fun with alot of the people from the squadron and a few that I have met online.

I don't think it's gonna die.

skullblits 09-26-2009 03:47 AM

Will damage it at least

Riceball 09-26-2009 04:44 AM

I'll play OFP DR, COD 6, and Forza 3. But, once BoP is ironed out it will be one of my favorite games of all time. And will probably play BoP longer than anything.

juz1 09-26-2009 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skullblits (Post 105010)
Heres why i think why, Theres like 4 games coming out next month.
operation flashpoint dragon rising
MW2
Assassins creed 2
& borderlands

I Fear with the Mp problems people may just leave this game & get theses new one's.

Unless this game is patched soon, i fear all will be lost

bye then...


there are quite a few diehards, me included, that will still be playing...
________
VAPIR NO2 VAPORIZER

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx 09-26-2009 06:49 AM

I will play this game until I die o.O

Not really, lol. But for at least a year or two.

Marchochias 09-26-2009 06:57 AM

Hahaha, skullbits do you have any idea of how the game industry works?

Flight sims are a niche genre. IL-2 never had a chance at selling nearly as many copies as a mainstream juggernaut like MW2 or AC2 will sell.

That said, unless they kept the dev costs down for Birds of Prey, I don't know how they could keep it profitable.

Zeroptimus 09-26-2009 07:55 AM

I finally found a game to where I can dent the leaderboards. And while I have had Borderlands preordered since 2007...hell mate, I love flying. I will never leave Sturmovik.

edal86 09-26-2009 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 105014)
I will get OFP and COD MW2 but I am going to be playing this game for a long time I am having to much fun with alot of the people from the squadron and a few that I have met online.

I don't think it's gonna die.

cool man, im getting OFP and COD MW2 too. see you there too. I hear we can pilot helicopters :)

I still think IL2 will be my favorite game for a long time though, why? four words; WORLD WAR TWO PLANES!!!

Zeroptimus 09-26-2009 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 105063)
cool man, im getting OFP and COD MW2 too. see you there too. I hear we can pilot helicopters :)

I still think IL2 will be my favorite game for a long time though, why? four words; WORLD WAR TWO PLANES!!!

Three words:

Capture the Airfield.

trk29 09-26-2009 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 105063)
cool man, im getting OFP and COD MW2 too. see you there too. I hear we can pilot helicopters :)

I still think IL2 will be my favorite game for a long time though, why? four words; WORLD WAR TWO PLANES!!!

I want to see a review of OFP before I buy it, HauptmannMolders has this game reserved as well, I'm afraid it might have bugs in it or may not live up the original for pc. It does look awesome though. But I am def getting MW2.

Riceball 09-26-2009 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edal86 (Post 105063)
I hear we can pilot helicopters :)

Sorry, but no. OPF DR may have vehicles later on. And MW2 has no vehicles. As of now.

If you want good Heli action play Thunderstrike: Operation Phoenix. The gamepad is unbelievibly perfect for Heli flight, It's as good as it gets on consoles. I for one would love to see a sequal.

Molgera 09-26-2009 10:31 AM

i really agree with this topic.
for now BoP is still the only game i'm playing but i don't even try to look for a multiplayer game anymore, it's too disappointing. i'm doing the solo missions over and over again.
even resident evil 5 (a mainly solo game design) makes it easier to find a multiplayer game.
and i really doubt all our problems will be solved with the update.

and i found some funny bugs too ^^
for example, shoot a plane, and continue shooting while it's on fire, you will still hear the pilot scream "i got hit, i got hit", even if you saw him bail out a minute ago ^^
also, when you crash next to anti-aircraft warfare, it will still be trying to shoot you, so you see the little black clouds just above your burning wreckage, i love it ^^

trk29 09-26-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Riceball (Post 105075)
Sorry, but no. OPF DR may have vehicles later on. And MW2 has no vehicles. As of now.

If you want good Heli action play Thunderstrike: Operation Phoenix. The gamepad is unbelievibly perfect for Heli flight, It's as good as it gets on consoles. I for one would love to see a sequal.

Where are you getting your info? Have you not seen any of the videos on their main site?

Yes you can fly helicopters, little bird, cobra to name two they even show first person cockpit view in the littlebird, tanks, hummers, railbuggy, there is all sorts of vehicles.http://worthplaying.com/article/2009/9/24/news/68738/

In multiplayer it is confirmed
http://www.flashpointgame.com/index....32&pagenumber=
Quote:

In the video, players are shown using surveillance to recon targets, infiltrating buildings, engaging in close and ranged fire-fights and deploying vehicles including the AH6 and MI-17 ground attack helicopters and the M1A2 battle tank.

MW2, yes it has vehicles did you not see the snowmobile?

If your talking strictly MP FourZeroTwo said no vehicles in MP on MW2

PantherAttack2 09-26-2009 12:00 PM

Personally I'm waiting for some reviews and some gameplay footage before I buy MW2. To be honest I'm sick of them (Infinity Ward and Treyarch) churning out COD games every year, so unless MW2 is going to be really innovative and something different from MW, I'm not buying it.

Riceball 09-26-2009 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 105087)
Where are you getting your info? Have you not seen any of the videos on their main site?

Yes you can fly helicopters, little bird, cobra to name two they even show first person cockpit view in the littlebird, tanks, hummers, railbuggy, there is all sorts of vehicles.http://worthplaying.com/article/2009/9/24/news/68738/

In multiplayer it is confirmed
http://www.flashpointgame.com/index....32&pagenumber=



MW2, yes it has vehicles did you not see the snowmobile?

If your talking strictly MP FourZeroTwo said no vehicles in MP on MW2

Well, I suppose i have not followed the game closley enough. And yes, I was referring to MP.

Sorry all.

Riceball 09-26-2009 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantherAttack2 (Post 105097)
Personally I'm waiting for some reviews and some gameplay footage before I buy MW2. To be honest I'm sick of them (Infinity Ward and Treyarch) churning out COD games every year, so unless MW2 is going to be really innovative and something different from MW, I'm not buying it.

That's what I thougth as well. But I'm sure I will get a few months of fun out of it, so that is worth $60 to me.

Dubbedinenglish 09-26-2009 12:50 PM

Possibly, but none of those are flight games. I may be getting OF:DR and Uncharted 2 but both can't measure up with any dogfighting.

Yeah there are helos in the game but remember it is an FPS that sprouted wings, so air to air will be weak. The only game to get the air-to-air combat great in a snadbox enviroment was Warhahk and that is because it was a flight game that sprouted a ground war.


Unless the two can match up with air-to-air combat IL-2 will still be my mainstay.

HauptmannMolders 09-26-2009 12:58 PM

I completely undertsand your concerns and I am a little dissappointed in the lack of realistic players on line BUT with some patches (Bf109 cockpit!!!!!!!!) I'll be playing a while. It is quite simply a unique game with nothing like it on the horizon. I've met some seriously awesome people playing this game so far trk29, irrelevant, haitch 40, seekatze, Das Reich 2, zeroptimus, edal86 etc etc these guys are GOOD and are making me better. If anybody wants to fight some of us VAS boys you better holler fast before we really get our shit together cuz once we do its over!!!

Mwahaha MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


As for MW2 I'm pretty pumped but again its different... I am very excited about the 11 kill streak feature which allows you to gun down your opponents from an AC130 smokewagon!!!!

Yossarian 09-26-2009 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 105069)
I want to see a review of OFP before I buy it, HauptmannMolders has this game reserved as well, I'm afraid it might have bugs in it or may not live up the original for pc. It does look awesome though. But I am def getting MW2.

OPF/DR = 4v4 P2P MP on 4 maps, 2 per mode, what a let down. The single player game is 12 missions of 20-40mins so the campaign is about 8 hours long, added to that the crappy MP on consoles = no thanks I might rent it.

I'm also boycotting activisions games, the fat w@*%ker bobby kotick can stick his £55 price up his arse. I will pick up MW2 once a few pre-owned copies are available but activision will not make a penny out of me.

Borderlands and Dragon Age FTW this holiday.

Ferigno 09-26-2009 01:31 PM

Once I get credit for a kill where I blow a hole in his wing and he crashes, I'll feel a lot better about the longevity of this game. As of right now, it's a blast

beaker126 09-26-2009 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yossarian (Post 105110)
Borderlands and Dragon Age FTW this holiday.



I can't agree enough. I am interested in MW2, but only if they made a SP campaign that's more than 4-6 hours long.

trk29 09-26-2009 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yossarian (Post 105110)
OPF/DR = 4v4 P2P MP on 4 maps, 2 per mode, what a let down. The single player game is 12 missions of 20-40mins so the campaign is about 8 hours long, added to that the crappy MP on consoles = no thanks I might rent it.

I'm also boycotting activisions games, the fat w@*%ker bobby kotick can stick his £55 price up his arse. I will pick up MW2 once a few pre-owned copies are available but activision will not make a penny out of me.

Borderlands and Dragon Age FTW this holiday.

Yes the size of multiplayer sounds like
a disappointment.

Soulsurfer 09-26-2009 02:26 PM

I'll be playing this game for a long time to come and as for MW2 I can't stand the COD games, they are shit IMO. There is no strategy in the single player campaign because the enemy just keep spawning untill you hit a checkpoint. If only 'Hidden and Dangerous' from the pc would come to console, that was an awesome WW2 game.

Yossarian 09-26-2009 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulsurfer (Post 105136)
If only 'Hidden and Dangerous'....

Now that was a great game, even with the random sudden death bugs.

manintrees 09-26-2009 05:53 PM

I have had nothing but problems with the BOP MP. No games available, lost connections, losing a wing everytime I spawn over and over aover again, only being able to play arcade mode, having to restart after a match, etc. It is really pissing me off.

But...BoP is the game I have been waiting for since I got my first console (Colecovision). I love WW2 planes and BoP is a truly awsome game. I daydream about it all day at work. I pray the MP issues get sorted out but even if they don't I will never get rid of it. Thank you to all those that had the vision and courage to bring us BoP!

FOZ_1983 09-26-2009 05:57 PM

as long as ONE person is playing this game..... it wont die.

Irishmandkg 09-26-2009 06:01 PM

I'll be getting mw2, but i won't leave this game. They are two different types of games. Get sick of running around shooting, just pop in BOP for some dog fighting. I wish I could keep on playing codW@W though instead of having to buy mw2. I know all of the people I have on my friends list will be getting mw2 and Treyarch will cut off support soon anyway. At least I get cod1 with the hardened edition. :grin:

Irishmandkg 09-26-2009 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 105134)
Yes the size of multiplayer sounds like
a disappointment.

Just wait for bfbc2. You can fly the same helis from bfbc1, but now they have black hawks as well.

bussinrounds 09-26-2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yossarian (Post 105110)
OPF/DR = 4v4 P2P MP on 4 maps, 2 per mode, what a let down. The single player game is 12 missions of 20-40mins so the campaign is about 8 hours long, added to that the crappy MP on consoles = no thanks I might rent it.

I'm also boycotting activisions games, the fat w@*%ker bobby kotick can stick his £55 price up his arse. I will pick up MW2 once a few pre-owned copies are available but activision will not make a penny out of me.

Borderlands and Dragon Age FTW this holiday.

I agree about Dragon Age:grin: But i'm gonna go with Ofp2 as my 2nd upcomming title.

trk29 09-26-2009 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irishmandkg (Post 105187)
Just wait for bfbc2. You can fly the same helis from bfbc1, but now they have black hawks as well.

That was a fun game but I never bought the original just downloaded the demo. I did like it though.

trk29 09-26-2009 09:47 PM

Oh and by the way. OFP2 is only getting the demo for pc

http://community.codemasters.com/for...d.php?t=379904

skullblits 09-26-2009 10:36 PM

OFP is gunna be sooo cool, BF:BC was always very laggy online 4 me

Zeroptimus 09-27-2009 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HauptmannMolders (Post 105109)
I completely undertsand your concerns and I am a little dissappointed in the lack of realistic players on line BUT with some patches (Bf109 cockpit!!!!!!!!) I'll be playing a while. It is quite simply a unique game with nothing like it on the horizon. I've met some seriously awesome people playing this game so far trk29, irrelevant, haitch 40, seekatze, Das Reich 2, zeroptimus, edal86 etc etc these guys are GOOD and are making me better. If anybody wants to fight some of us VAS boys you better holler fast before we really get our shit together cuz once we do its over!!!

Mwahaha MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


As for MW2 I'm pretty pumped but again its different... I am very excited about the 11 kill streak feature which allows you to gun down your opponents from an AC130 smokewagon!!!!

I know I'm late to this forum party, but I feel genuinely honored to be counted among you guys. Especially with someone calling me a good pilot. I for one sir, will be playing this game for a very long time, and you can count on tearing up the skies with me. Never before has a game captured my passion for flying like Sturmovik has. And while I know it's hard to find a game online...it's pilots like you guys that make the multiplayer the best I've ever played. I've had amazing dogfights, memorable matches, I talk about it all the time at work. Sturmovik is a permanent addition to my collection of games. And since it has came out, it has not left my PS3. That will change a bit when Borderlands comes out, but it will be back in and giving me amazing game play. I will fully support this game in any way I can. I take every chance I can to sell Sturmovik to customers at work. I will buy any DLC, no matter the cost (Although free never hurt anyone, except the developers I suppose...), I will do my best to promote the multiplayer community by hosting great matches and playing fair and honorable. I will do everything I can do to keep this game a great one for me and everyone else. And with people like us to support this game...it will never fade away. It will never die.

We will stand by Sturmovik. She will never die.

/Berlin Wall o' Text.

irrelevant 09-27-2009 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HauptmannMolders (Post 105109)
I completely undertsand your concerns and I am a little dissappointed in the lack of realistic players on line BUT with some patches (Bf109 cockpit!!!!!!!!) I'll be playing a while. It is quite simply a unique game with nothing like it on the horizon. I've met some seriously awesome people playing this game so far trk29, irrelevant, haitch 40, seekatze, Das Reich 2, zeroptimus, edal86 etc etc these guys are GOOD and are making me better. If anybody wants to fight some of us VAS boys you better holler fast before we really get our shit together cuz once we do its over!!!

Mwahaha MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


As for MW2 I'm pretty pumped but again its different... I am very excited about the 11 kill streak feature which allows you to gun down your opponents from an AC130 smokewagon!!!!

Thanks man! It was GREAT flying with you the other night... and I agree, once we get our shit together... beware! :evil:

P.S. I personally think edal86 owns the skies. TRK and yourself are amazing in the air, but edal has completely owned me in the past. LOL. I love flying with you guys. ;)

irrelevant 09-27-2009 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeroptimus (Post 105309)
I know I'm late to this forum party, but I feel genuinely honored to be counted among you guys. Especially with someone calling me a good pilot. I for one sir, will be playing this game for a very long time, and you can count on tearing up the skies with me. Never before has a game captured my passion for flying like Sturmovik has. And while I know it's hard to find a game online...it's pilots like you guys that make the multiplayer the best I've ever played. I've had amazing dogfights, memorable matches, I talk about it all the time at work. Sturmovik is a permanent addition to my collection of games. And since it has came out, it has not left my PS3. That will change a bit when Borderlands comes out, but it will be back in and giving me amazing game play. I will fully support this game in any way I can. I take every chance I can to sell Sturmovik to customers at work. I will buy any DLC, no matter the cost (Although free never hurt anyone, except the developers I suppose...), I will do my best to promote the multiplayer community by hosting great matches and playing fair and honorable. I will do everything I can do to keep this game a great one for me and everyone else. And with people like us to support this game...it will never fade away. It will never die.

We will stand by Sturmovik. She will never die.

/Berlin Wall o' Text.


+ infinity

I've always enjoyed flying with/against you. Excellent post.

Riceball 09-27-2009 05:14 AM

Bromance? :grin:

Zeroptimus 09-27-2009 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riceball (Post 105315)
Bromance? :grin:

Bromance.

trk29 09-27-2009 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riceball (Post 105315)
Bromance? :grin:

Never heard that before. ROTFLMAO:-P

trk29 09-27-2009 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irrelevant (Post 105311)
Thanks man! It was GREAT flying with you the other night... and I agree, once we get our shit together... beware! :evil:

P.S. I personally think edal86 owns the skies. TRK and yourself are amazing in the air, but edal has completely owned me in the past. LOL. I love flying with you guys. ;)

Well thank you. I don't think I am that good I am still sharpening my skills.

Yes we all have had fun. This game is simply amazing and whenever I see you all online I hope you aren't in a match so we can all fly together. It's not the same personally to fly with people I don't know. The matches aren't as fun.

dandymountfarto 09-27-2009 10:28 AM

tried playing this online friday night, around 8pm gmt. no matter what game type or realism setting, i could not find a game.

set up my own lobby, waited 5 mins or so, 1 other person turned up. and he was way better than me so basically the match consisted of me slowly losing bits of my plane as i struggled to shake himm off. 10mins of that and the game finished, he left, that was it.

im sure the game will survive, but as for long term support, im not so sure.

trk29 09-27-2009 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dandymountfarto (Post 105377)
tried playing this online friday night, around 8pm gmt. no matter what game type or realism setting, i could not find a game.

set up my own lobby, waited 5 mins or so, 1 other person turned up. and he was way better than me so basically the match consisted of me slowly losing bits of my plane as i struggled to shake himm off. 10mins of that and the game finished, he left, that was it.

im sure the game will survive, but as for long term support, im not so sure.

That does suck I think everybody is seeing that and are wondering the same thing.

I have been playing a lot of CTA lately and I am loving it. That way you have more than one objective versus getting into turning dogfights if while talking to your teamates have one person land and everybody else defend him, I think that is the funnest.

haitch40 09-27-2009 10:39 AM

the game wont die but this forum could seeing as the devs went elsewhere

dandymountfarto 09-27-2009 10:46 AM

was wondering - do most of you play this individually or part of a virtual squadron?

trk29 09-27-2009 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dandymountfarto (Post 105387)
was wondering - do most of you play this individually or part of a virtual squadron?

V.A.S.?

When we are online at the same time and play TB we all pick the same team if there are more than just us.


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