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manintrees 08-27-2009 09:19 PM

Incorrect terminology?
 
I am a relative noob in the world of aviation but I think BOP has at least one goof regarding manouver terminology. I performed a simple aileron roll and an icon popped up indicating a "barrel roll". From what I understand a barrel roll is a much more complicated manouver. Has anyone else experienced this?

trk29 08-27-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by manintrees (Post 93559)
I am a relative noob in the world of aviation but I think BOP has at least one goof regarding manouver terminology. I performed a simple aileron roll and an icon popped up indicating a "barrel roll". From what I understand a barrel roll is a much more complicated manouver. Has anyone else experienced this?

These are going to be achievements in game if you do a split-s you get a card and a immelman you will get a card for that.

Kamak86 08-28-2009 12:04 AM

It is true, the term "barrel roll" is used incorrectly: THis was taken from Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_roll


Aviation
In aviation, the maneuver includes a constant variation of attitude in all three axes, and at the midpoint (top) of the roll, the aircraft is flying inverted, with the nose pointing at a moderate angle to the general path of flight. The term "barrel roll" is frequently used, incorrectly, to refer to any roll by an airplane (see aileron roll), or to a helical roll in which the nose remains pointed generally along the flight path. In fact, the barrel roll is a specific and difficult maneuver; a combination of a roll and a loop. One advantage of the barrel roll over the aileron roll is that it is possible to maintain positive "g" force throughout the maneuver. (If the interior is not immaculately clean any loose material will be thrown about under negative g force and also the aircraft fuel flow may be momentarily interrupted.)

Outside of aerobatic competition, the Boeing 367-80 and Concorde prototype were barrel rolled during testing. The Boeing 367-80 was rolled just once by Tex Johnston in an unauthorized demonstration maneuver while the Concorde was rolled multiple times by her test pilots, including Jean Franchi and Brian Walpole.

One of the best and most accurate depictions of a barrel roll in any aviation movie occurred in the 1966 film The Blue Max, when one of the two German pilots flying a pair of Fokker Dr.I triplanes executes one, as seen from directly behind the pair of aircraft in the film.

DigitalMan 08-28-2009 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by manintrees (Post 93559)
I am a relative noob in the world of aviation but I think BOP has at least one goof regarding manouver terminology. I performed a simple aileron roll and an icon popped up indicating a "barrel roll". From what I understand a barrel roll is a much more complicated manouver. Has anyone else experienced this?

Yeah, I know what you are saying. I do a simple snap roll and it says barrel roll, which is wrong. Oh well!

PF_Lizard 08-28-2009 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamak86 (Post 93598)
...the 1966 film The Blue Max

Awesome film! Packed with balls-to-the-wall stunts! :grin:

IIJ0SePhXII 08-28-2009 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by manintrees (Post 93559)
I am a relative noob in the world of aviation but I think BOP has at least one goof regarding manouver terminology. I performed a simple aileron roll and an icon popped up indicating a "barrel roll". From what I understand a barrel roll is a much more complicated manouver. Has anyone else experienced this?

You might be thinking of the Victory Roll, which is more of a corkscrew


VictoryRoll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY_IMZzs8WY

Barrell Roll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q65iqCnrx6U

P-51 08-28-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by IIJ0SePhXII (Post 93664)
You might be thinking of the Victory Roll, which is more of a corkscrew


VictoryRoll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY_IMZzs8WY

Barrell Roll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q65iqCnrx6U

Point 1) The victory roll is often a barrel roll.
Point 2) The spit seems to be doing a slow roll not a barrel roll.

loopdreams 08-28-2009 05:25 PM

There's a good example of a barrel roll in the video on this page (2.15 onwards):

http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/006784.html

Also lots of generally amazing flying from one of the world's best pilots.

Zatoichi_Sanjuro 08-28-2009 09:02 PM

The devs must play Starfox 64 too much me thinks.

http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...5afd4d42af.jpg

juz1 08-29-2009 04:48 AM

if the lancaster was pinned by searchlights it would execute a barrel roll to attempt to lose the "lock"...must have been hell of a ride as the tail gunner...
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