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SpencerK 02-28-2009 03:59 PM

Great game - 2 issues though :(
 
Hi there.. I was thrilled to see a game come forth similar to my fav strat game SHOWW2.. This game is a clone of that, but with better graphics.

However, there are 2 major issues at present.

The first is the sounds.. where are they? Apart from speech, and odd brush of a bush when a solider runs past and gunfire, thats it.. I mean, I'm playing it and here absolutely nothing.. No wind, no farm animals.. It servilely impacts the atmosphere.. There is something seriously wrong with the sound.

The second issue pertains to the terrible AI. I mean, I was on the first mission, just after you get the tank, plowd into the villlage, to which I was swarmed by enemy mobs - but they just stood there, not shooting or nothing. One more came and healed himself by my tank, but after just stood there doing nothing, right by the tank.

Are these issues well known or am i just being too picky?

:)
Thanks

DMS|Instinct 02-28-2009 07:24 PM

The first soviet mission has dumbed down AI as it is a kind of in-game Tutorial.

Men of War is the sequel to Soldiers.

Mack the Knife 03-01-2009 12:48 AM

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terrible AI
i wouldn't say that and like someone else alluded to, demos are there for getting a taste of the game and are certainly not the polished product. but i want to go back to your, i believe, misguided analysis of the AI. when the AI happens to "see" a grenade coming, they jump away, hit the dirt, and cover their heads! FANTASTIC!

xorox 03-01-2009 03:08 AM

Try changing the difficulty in the Options panel before you play single player mode... Add the Fog of War to realistic and change the difficulty to at least normal... And the game is totally different. Enemy soldiers will try to flank your tank and well, throw some Anti tank grenades at it.. =(

Cant wait myself for the game to be released...

SpencerK 03-01-2009 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack the Knife (Post 68299)
i wouldn't say that and like someone else alluded to, demos are there for getting a taste of the game and are certainly not the polished product. but i want to go back to your, i believe, misguided analysis of the AI. when the AI happens to "see" a grenade coming, they jump away, hit the dirt, and cover their heads! FANTASTIC!

Hi

Firstly, this is the full game not the demo - and I'm only expressing what I saw with my own eyes mate, this is hardly a misguided view. When about 5 mobs stand right close to a tank, but do not bother shooting or moving - then something is afoot.

But, as I said this was my first play through on the first level of the game, on normal.

I'm more concerned about the lack of sounds, atmosphere, in the game. I cannot here a thing until someone stats talking or shooting. The music seems to stop and start with no apparent rhythm. I can see this is going to be a great game, after all I loved SHOWW2, but would just like to enjoy it from the start - rather than wait for someone to create a sound mod, like in the previous game.

The game clearly says you can here the wind, cats etc... but I cannot here anything...

Mack the Knife 03-01-2009 09:28 PM

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this is hardly a misguided view
let's not quibble but the AI may be lacking in some respects in your opinion, it may not be the best out there in your opinion but IT IS NOT terrible. we've ALL seen terrible AI in games and the AI in MoW is far from that as illustrated by my point with the hand grenades. had you said the AI is lacking in some respects, the AI needs some improvements in certain areas, then OK. but you're misguided to state that it's terrible, which was my point.

SpencerK 03-02-2009 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mack the Knife (Post 68396)
let's not quibble but the AI may be lacking in some respects in your opinion, it may not be the best out there in your opinion but IT IS NOT terrible. we've ALL seen terrible AI in games and the AI in MoW is far from that as illustrated by my point with the hand grenades. had you said the AI is lacking in some respects, the AI needs some improvements in certain areas, then OK. but you're misguided to state that it's terrible, which was my point.

Well, it turns out that the first level - which is all I have played - is a very dumb down version of things to come - therefore it is excusable that the AI does hardly anything in terms of AI intelligence - which is terrible!!! :) in the first level.

I look forward to playing through and getting my ass handed to me, thats of course after I run around with my arms held out trying to catch it after its been blown 50 feet high b/c of a nade.

I've been told the sound does improve a lot as well..

orsonic 03-25-2009 08:19 PM

Think it may be a problem at your side unless its been adressed in my version .

The wind effects had me checking our windows i was convinced the sound was coming from them:eek:

amazing game , bought 2 copies for LAN

firefox83 03-26-2009 02:03 PM

I agree with the sound. Unless I have my speakers cranked at max (which im running 6.1 surround) I dont hear anything. The wind/rain is the only loud noise I hear, on the levels that has it. Other wise, I might get a few cannon blast here and there, but other then that, its quiet. And unless Im zoomed in right on top of the tank, I cant hear them either. Checked all my sound settings, and the game settings, and everything is maxed. Am I missing something here as well?

thegrindre 03-26-2009 09:16 PM

Please, let me jump in here and make a comment about this sound issue.
What are you looking/listening for? The higher up in the sky you go, the less sound you will hear. Now, that's very realistic.
You want birds and squirrels? Hey, it's a battlefield and the animals have all run like hell. They're not stupid.
Get yourself down to ground level and listen, just like you were a real soldier.
The sounds are there. It's as real as it gets.
Use hear phones if you really want an experience... Sony makes ear buds for about $20 and are worth every penny.

Mater of fact, this is the most realistic war game I have every played. It's fantastic!

:grin:


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