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DKoor 02-11-2012 09:14 AM

For MudMovers: What kind of tanks cannot be destroyed with Mk103?
 
I've managed to destroy T-34/76s and T-34/85s with Mk103s, those are mediums, but am interested to see whether this weapon has capability to destroy larger tanks? KV-1s heavies or alike?

Thanks.:)

csThor 02-11-2012 09:28 AM

KV-1 or IS-2, while historically possible to destroy, aren't possible in 1946. The vehicle DM is far too crude for that and artificially boosting the Mk 101/103 was not a good solution.

DKoor 02-11-2012 10:54 AM

Thanks...;)
I've just wondered what may be the most effective way to take out tanks in IL-2 flying on axis side?
Mk103 just may be the best option for JABO fighters if we know that we are dealing with smaller tanks and lighter armour... Bk 3,7cm is mounted on dedicated ground attack planes only such is Hs-129, Bf-110, such large cannons are not available for FW-190/Bf-109.
I'll experiemnt a bit with AB250 (those used to work better than AB500s for some reason:eek:) and AB23 (AB230?). Hopefully those bomblets can pack some punch and have probably better chance of hitting tank than conventional SC250/500 (let alone smaller).

Saying that, I just recalled that Soviets actually installed 4,5cm cannon in their Yaks (besides already enormous 3,7cm), that thing must take out just about any tank in game:shock:.

csThor 02-11-2012 11:48 AM

Historically no other aircraft but the Bf 110 and the Hs 129 carried Mk 101/Mk 103 gunpods and the former only for a very very short time. The Bk 3.7 on the Hs 129 was an aborted development, given up after only two test flights, and should not be used at all. The Mk 103 gunpods on the Fw 190 are also not historical and should not be used at all, either.

DKoor 02-11-2012 12:31 PM

OK thanks. That leaves me with AB bomb type experimentations :) .
I've just read on UBI forum that AB500 has different load than AB250 & AB1000.
I.e. AB500 has anti-tank droplets while AB250 and AB1000 have droplets intended for soft targets... may explain why aiming with AB500 is somewhat harder (most likely there is fewer droplets loaded in AB500).:-|
Not sure about it tho.

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...=1#post8137603

BadAim 02-11-2012 12:38 PM

You could always sneak behind enemy lines, bayonet between teeth, and capture an IL2m or a yak3 ut. :)

Seriously though, aren't you forgetting about the cannon armed Stuka? Granted the thing is a bloody deathtrap and nearly impossible to hit anything with, but it served Rudel well.

BTW, I was online the other day flying a Yak ut and boy is that thing a monster! I was able to easily take out 4 or 5 tanks per mission, and would probably have done better had I not kept getting greedy and lawn darting.

csThor 02-11-2012 01:31 PM

Historically the Fw 190 fighter-bombers were sent against the soft-skinned soviet supply vehicles or their artillery positions and only very rarely used directly over the battlefield. This changed with the introduction of the Panzerblitz anti-tank rocket but that was quite late in the war.

swiss 02-11-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BadAim (Post 389799)
Seriously though, aren't you forgetting about the cannon armed Stuka? Granted the thing is a bloody deathtrap and nearly impossible to hit anything with, but it served Rudel well.


I get about 8-10 tanks each sortie, with 12 shots.
That thing is a killer. 8-)

DKoor 02-11-2012 02:11 PM

Hehe I'd fly Stuka all the way unfortunately many servers doesn't have it in the planeset for some weird reason.:mad:
Although I find it to have limited use, being in need tof an escort since of very low speed, same can be said about Henschel too... think Hs is even slower:-|.

I find FW to have best survivability/punch around...

DKoor 02-11-2012 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csThor (Post 389809)
Historically the Fw 190 fighter-bombers were sent against the soft-skinned soviet supply vehicles or their artillery positions and only very rarely used directly over the battlefield. This changed with the introduction of the Panzerblitz anti-tank rocket but that was quite late in the war.

Please tell me you guys have a plan to make it in game...:)
Wfr.Gr.21s (once you chew some time on aiming) are nice but I feel those panzerblitzs would be real salt on a wound for tanks.


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