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lbuchele 04-12-2011 05:00 PM

Bf-110 is THE fighter
 
It´s a new beast compared to Il2 in my opinion.
If used with B&Z tatics you can eat spitfires and hurricanes for lunch.
The visuals in this game are so incredible too,I was catching a Spitfire with diffficulty, almost in tree top height,with no hope to reach it,when decided to do a high yo-yo,and suddenly have a brief firing solution: give it a 2 sec burst and just saw one single hit in the left aileron when the spit was in a 90 degree turn.
It slowly turn even more to te left and crash to the ground exploding beautifully.
There are so many of this beautiful moments happening, but it´s really difficult to me to express in words because I´m not a native english speaking person...

Ze-Jamz 04-12-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lbuchele (Post 261203)
It´s a new beast compared to Il2 in my opinion.
If used with B&Z tatics you can eat spitfires and hurricanes for lunch.
The visuals in this game are so incredible too,I was catching a Spitfire with diffficulty, almost in tree top height,with no hope to reach it,when decided to do a high yo-yo,and suddenly have a brief firing solution: give it a 2 sec burst and just saw one single hit in the left aileron when the spit was in a 90 degree turn.
It slowly turn even more to te left and crash to the ground exploding beautifully.
There are so many of this beautiful moments happening, but it´s really difficult to me to express in words because I´m not a native english speaking person...

Lol its a beast in IL2 too..

exellent guns, loads of ammo, fast and in IL2 if you get on its tail that rear gunner will own you if it gets your engine, in a spit or hurri anyway

lbuchele 04-12-2011 05:24 PM

Yes, it´s like a german P38, but not so sexy, of course...

bongodriver 04-12-2011 05:29 PM

it didn't do so well in real life though, I think they withdrew it during the battle of britain and made it a night fighter because they lost so many.

Anvilfolk 04-12-2011 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 261238)
it didn't do so well in real life though, I think they withdrew it during the battle of britain and made it a night fighter because they lost so many.

Read that too. Can't remember exactly why. Bad turning ability? Maybe speed (although with two engines that sounds strange).

Then they used it for low-level bombing experimentally, and it worked wonders. I don't think the technique was widely adopted though, for some reason.

bongodriver 04-12-2011 05:36 PM

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Read that too. Can't remember exactly why. Bad turning ability? Maybe speed (although with two engines that sounds strange).

Yep...not very manouverable, and being quite large with 2 engines and quite heavy (not being made of wood a la mosquito) made it slow.

JG3_Hartmann 04-12-2011 05:52 PM

And you can build nearly two 109´s out of one 110. So I would stick to the smaller plane. ^^

The huge problem was that they used the wrong tactics. "Enger Geleitschutz" (the fighters staying near the bombers) instead of "Freie Jagd" (Search and Destroy)

Rattlehead 04-12-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 261238)
it didn't do so well in real life though, I think they withdrew it during the battle of britain and made it a night fighter because they lost so many.

That was because they were throttled back, by order, to escort the bombers. The 110 lacked the acceleration of the single-engined planes and was a sitting duck against enemy fighters as a result of the throttling back.

But when given license to roam they were quite formidable, at least against the Hurricane.

bongodriver 04-12-2011 06:15 PM

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That was because they were throttled back, by order, to escort the bombers. The 110 lacked the acceleration of the single-engined planes and was a sitting duck against enemy fighters as a result of the throttling back.

But when given license to roam they were quite formidable, at least against the Hurricane.
not fully convinced by that, they would have all the free licence they wanted if being attacked, from what I read they just couldn't defend themselves let alone the bombers, an escort fighter doesn't just keep formation with the bombers, they break off and fight when the formations are attacked.

Kurfürst 04-12-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 261238)
it didn't do so well in real life though, I think they withdrew it during the battle of britain and made it a night fighter because they lost so many.

Actually, it gave a pretty good account of itself. Recent studies of actual kills vs. actual losses suggest that it did just as well if not better than 109s. But 110s were few in number compared to the numerous 109s (roughly 300 vs 1000+ 109s), and their losses (200 or so) compared to their number were severe for the heavy fighter arm. Every 110 that fell, it left a gaping hole; when a 109 was lost it was just one member of a big hive..


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