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zakkandrachoff 12-12-2010 06:03 PM

second sino-japanese war 1937-1940
 
I have another really Forgotten Battle:
CHINA JAPAN 1937-1940 AIR WAR
(second sino-japanese war 1937)

Another conflict to consider in a far away series of Storm Of WAr
Ugly war, but nice 1930-1935 era planes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi6wI...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qENLZS4wJsM
http://warandgame.com/2007/12/03/air...alone-1937-41/

air forces

china air force

* Curtiss Hawk II
* Curtiss Hawk III (two .3 inch Browning machine guns and could carry only one 500Ib bomb.)
* Fiat CR32
* Polikarpov I-16
* Polikarpov I-15
* Polikarpov I-153
* Boeing P-26C model 281 (fighter)
* Northrop 2-E
* Chance-Vought V-92C Corsair
* Martin 139 B-10B bomber

japanese air force
* Mistubishi A5M (fighter carrier fighter)
* Nakajima A2N (carrier fighter)
* Nakajima (A4N1) Type 95
* G3M1
* Aichi D1A1
* Yokosuka B3Y
* Mitsubishi B2M2
* A5M1

http://www.acesofww2.com/china/HawlksOverChina.jpg

http://www.1-72scaleplanes.com/galle...art/claude.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...6d/az-7243.jpg

baronWastelan 12-12-2010 06:28 PM

You forgot the He-111?

Wutz 12-12-2010 06:33 PM

Yes +10000000 on that! But I fear most kiddies are only keen on late war planes that are armored like tanks and are extremly fast. Slow and weakly aremed planes are more for freaks like me and other early war planes fans!
Your list is missing a plane that is a real favorite of mine the Kawanishi H6K built from 1934 till 1942
http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/jap...anishi_h6k.jpg
http://www.corbisimages.com/images/6...1/NA008031.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...anishi_h6k.gif
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...97_Transpo.jpg

Wutz 12-12-2010 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baronWastelan (Post 204138)
You forgot the He-111?

You are right
http://de.academic.ru/pictures/dewik...-111A_CNAC.jpg

pupo162 12-12-2010 06:56 PM

If i recall correctly, this cnat be done due to china and politics...

cheers

SaQSoN 12-12-2010 07:13 PM

You also forgot SB (which was most numerous Chinese bomber) and DB-3. Also, most of the I-15, sent to China were I-15bis. Soviet-made planes were flown by both Chinese and Russian crews.

There were also D-510, flown by French volunteers, few Hs-123 and some other types.

Wutz 12-13-2010 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pupo162 (Post 204144)
If i recall correctly, this cnat be done due to china and politics...

cheers

I really wonder if China would make a fuss, if this was brought into a flight sim? Is there anything half ways official known?

@SaQSoN yes you are right the Chinese airforce is almost totally made up of Russian aircraft and a few others from other western countries. Most we already have in IL2 1946 only the Japanese side has major gaps in aircraft.

IceFire 12-13-2010 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wutz (Post 204205)
I really wonder if China would make a fuss, if this was brought into a flight sim? Is there anything half ways official known?

@SaQSoN yes you are right the Chinese airforce is almost totally made up of Russian aircraft and a few others from other western countries. Most we already have in IL2 1946 only the Japanese side has major gaps in aircraft.

Apparently they would... Seeing as the war was fought by the Nationalist government. Can't be seen supporting them...even if they have moved to Taiwan.

The air war here sounds really interesting equipment wise. A very eclectic set of aircraft. I had no idea the Peashooter actually had combat use.

Splitter 12-13-2010 04:06 AM

I would LOVE to play a campaign with those planes!

Heck, i really wouldn't even care if it was "historically accurate" or even a theoretical conflict. There was a ton of advancement in the years between the wars and the transitions are fascinating, at least to me. Everyone was working off of theory, some turned out to be right and some far off.

Splitter

Wutz 12-13-2010 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceFire (Post 204206)
Apparently they would... Seeing as the war was fought by the Nationalist government. Can't be seen supporting them...even if they have moved to Taiwan.

The air war here sounds really interesting equipment wise. A very eclectic set of aircraft. I had no idea the Peashooter actually had combat use.

Hmm odd, but then politics has little to do with logic.:cool:
On the other hand chinese skins have been around for years, never really heard anything....is China so influencial in the sim market that they could have an impact in any way?
Good Chinese - Japanese squabbels are nothing new, and if China had its way
I guess no sim would also have any WWII Japanese aircraft flying at all. Let alone chinese nationalist planes.

The topic is very interesting and it would be a bummer if politicians can just so block for the rest of the world something like that.


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