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ECV56_Guevara 07-01-2013 12:08 PM

Oleg has left the building a long time ago.

76.IAP-Blackbird 07-01-2013 12:17 PM

I know, all il2 stuff was handed over to TD, sad the Ju is lost. But I still cant believe thats completly gone?!

Sita 07-01-2013 01:24 PM

as far i know DT was in contact with author ... and he gave to DT what he can ... all rest was lost

gaunt1 07-02-2013 05:38 PM

Still, I think it would be quite easy to add the A-14 version at least. For external model, only the MG-FF should be added to the nose of the A-4. For cockpit, the A-4 torpedo bomber version would be a good starting point, the torp equipment should be deleted, and the gunsight replaced by the Stuvi.

IceFire 07-02-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gaunt1 (Post 506094)
Still, I think it would be quite easy to add the A-14 version at least. For external model, only the MG-FF should be added to the nose of the A-4. For cockpit, the A-4 torpedo bomber version would be a good starting point, the torp equipment should be deleted, and the gunsight replaced by the Stuvi.

In terms of bang for our buck, what does the A-14 give us? Having a forward firing MG-FF is interesting (we have it in the torp version after all) but not immensely so. All I can see is that it has cable cutters and a MG-FF.

While I fully advocate for having a variety of sub models (i.e. a Ki-61-I Tei with the lengthened nose, revised armament configuration, etc.), sometimes it can be a lot of extra work for little gain. On the other hand... with things like Spitfire versions its relatively little work for lots of gain. Especially when the changes are engine related and entirely internal for example.

gaunt1 07-03-2013 09:47 AM

A-14 was primarily an anti shipping bomber, but was also frequently used on the eastern front. The MG-FF was especially useful for strafing trains and soft targets like trucks.

Wutz 07-08-2013 10:55 AM

http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploa...zwpi2lek8h.jpg
http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploa...ljku5r4dy2.jpg
http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploa...e2zuiq3r9b.jpg

This might interest some?

IceFire 07-09-2013 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by gaunt1 (Post 506139)
A-14 was primarily an anti shipping bomber, but was also frequently used on the eastern front. The MG-FF was especially useful for strafing trains and soft targets like trucks.

I think I'd go for the C-6a before the A-14... more bang for the buck in terms of giving us something we don't already have. The Ju88A-4/Torp and A-17 both give us essentially the same things. Unless the A-14, for example, has improved performance or defensive firepower.

Baddington_VA 07-09-2013 02:20 AM

Late war Luftwaffe bomber for missions and maps
 
Ideally the easiest option might be to work from existing models to add a JU88 S-3 in the future. The nose was streamlined and the gondola gun position removed. Loadout was lightened and only one defending gun was used.
The A17 is half way there already.

Building a late war mission in FMB, the A4 just seems out of it's place.

The above is a suggestion not a demand.

IceFire 07-09-2013 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Baddington_VA (Post 506497)
Ideally the easiest option might be to work from existing models to add a JU88 S-3 in the future. The nose was streamlined and the gondola gun position removed. Loadout was lightened and only one defending gun was used.
The A17 is half way there already.

Building a late war mission in FMB, the A4 just seems out of it's place.

The above is a suggestion not a demand.

True! From what I've read, many of the KG squadrons were picking up a variety of aircraft in it's place... the Me410 and Ju188 in small numbers. I think many units were simply disbanded as the emphasis switched to fighters and fighter-bombers.

EDIT: And having looked at the Ju88S... that might be interesting. Has the kind of difference and performance boost that could be useful.


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