@ Zapatista,

Best posts I've read in here in a long time....Bravo.

We all just want to know what's going on, that's all. You see I challenged Oleg for a response yesterday, and Ilya responded quickly with some info. That's all we want, is just a little info now and then letting us know they are still breathing, and working on the new sim.


Silence is deadly, and I'm sure several have given up and moved on to something else because of it.

i re-read the post again and i see how one of the paragraphs phrasing implied that he was deliberately lying and was a bit blunt, i've edited that part.

regarding the console demo not looking like BoB scenery, sorry folks but i dont buy that it is a simple reskinning of the old il2 engine. you can clearly see the new tree and hedge shapes, the BoB road/village/town housing layout, and even the plane sets are all battle of Britain era.

Why is it so hard to understand that if you, Oleg, 1C, Microsoft, or any other person/studio/developer made a title about the Battle of Britain that the terrain would look like, well, Southern England?

Is that really surprising? Even the folks at the modder's place make maps that look like the area they are depicting.

And is it really necessary to call Luthier, in effect, a liar?

I really don't understand you lot at all. You are acting like children who cannot reach the cookie jar on the top shelf, even though you have plenty to eat as it is.

Oh PLEASE let more of these children 'give up' and move on. The few babies that make a lot of noise here would do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to hurt Olegs sales of BOB. There are 100 at best, compare that with the millions of sales of IL2.

Perhaps if Oleg doesnt release anything for a few months we would lose these whiners...hint hint ;)

I am begging you Monterey, Zapatista and the other children, PLEASE give up and move on....

This was a year ago. http://vodpod.com/watch/49899-oleg-i...a-about-sowbob

Oleg was flying SoW/BoB then, and showing off lots of stuff that was already done.....a year ago....I say again...a year ago. Pay close attention to the 15:00 mark.

You're telling me he has nothing to tell the people other than a few screenies? Oh, c'mon. Just now entering Alpha?

Us asking for a little more substantial info on a sim that was this far along...A YEAR AGO...is not asking for much.

Gimme a break. My questions are not out of line. I am not whining for more planes and more additions, just some info about how it's coming.

Chill out, dude.

And I take it that not many here have seen this video, because many of the questions that have been asked here on the forums were answered...a year ago in the interview.


I would like to see the full video that was showing on the laptop. :)

Millions?? Millions of copies? I doubt there are hundreds of thousands of copies sold, let alone millions. If Oleg had sold millions of copies of IL2, we wouldn't be considered a niche market.

As bad as the whiners are, the opposite extreme of fans who land hard on every negative comment about Oleg and Bob:SoW are equally annoying. Everyone relax, it'll be here soon enough. Enjoy some sunshine in the meantime. :)

Great now this thread is only about who a "whiner" is and who isn't. You know what? Those who point at people and say "whiner" are bringing the least constructive material to this thread. They are the true and only negativity around here.

I already answered most of these questions before, but apparently my explanation needs repeating.


1. I got absolutely no reason to lie to anyone. If I don't want you to know something, I simply won't talk about it, but I take huge offense to people calling me a liar. Everything I said is 100% accurate.

2. The console project has nothing to do with Storm of War. This is a development of the IL-2 source code done by an an external developer for the 1C Company (which is much larger than Oleg's team). Oleg's team is not involved. Oleg's guys have not done any development on the console version. I don't know how to prove a negative in this case, but it's a fact nevertheless.

3. Look for all the negativity, accusations and criticism in this thread. Peope are not looking at what's there. They're looking for something that's not shown, and are coming up with wild conspiracy theories. Which is exactly the reason you're not seeing alpha shots. Alpha, by definition, means that things are incompete. And it's very clear to us that, if people are shown something that's incomplete, that's where all the attention will focus. This is why we're waiting until everything is picture perfect, because otherwise it'll be "oh no we waited a year and what do we get, manifold pressure in that video goes down .2 seconds too soon after carburetor impact ice forms, how dare you sirs!"

4. There's really no point in bickering at this point. Work is ongoing. The proof will be in the pudding. I can write here back and forth for hours, but it'll just be rehashing the same old points. We have nothing to do with the console game. Oleg's team is working as hard as they can. The game is extremely complex, and I would even say it's much more revolutionary than Il-2 was in its day. And It'll come out when it's ready.

Don't bother, Ilya. Some people believe only what they want to believe and won't be satisfied unless you pay them a trip to Moscow, show them everything and hand over the source code along with comments to each and every line, all 3D models and texture examples. And then they'd still make the self opinionated claim of being able to do better and quicker work themselves. :roll: