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JG52Krupi 04-21-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kimosabi (Post 269637)
A Buchon is the bastard stepdaughter of a 109.

THANK YOU, buchon is FUGLY.

JG52Krupi 04-21-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron (Post 269638)
Fine, in that case we should all petition so that everyone else have to press ctlrF2 to lean forward and hence get the zoomed in restricted field of view per default.

U know, im perfectly capable irl of leaning to the left WITHOUT zooming in/lean forward.

I mean, we all want it to be realistic, right?

Yes, thats why its going to stay like it is right now :cool:

Lixma 04-21-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 269629)
Your wrong, you had to lean with slightly with the 109 and 190.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Blem3FlkaMc

How many eyes does a camera have? = 1

How many eyes does the virtual pilot in CoD have? = 1

How many eyes does a (healthy) 109 pilot have? = 2

An illustration....

Here's what a Cyclops would see if he flew the BF-109. As you can see it's exactly the same standard view we have in CoD. On eye, straight down the centerline....

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/8366/cyclops.jpg


Now here's what a real 109 pilot would see. A pilot with binocular vision. A pilot with the reticle being projected fully into one eye.....

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4853/109kb.jpg


At the moment people are taking the current Cyclops view as 'Realism'.

Erkki 04-21-2011 11:58 AM

As it is, it gives a huge unrealistic advantage to 6dof users. I dont have a TrackIR and I'm not going to get one. The great majority of the people buying the game will be similar to me in that regard.

I cannot see why simple offset camera position(without leaning forward, zooming, restricting views) is not possible.

Either offset camera position OR full reticle visible, pseudo-simulating 2-eye stereo vision, with 50% of the reticle glowing maybe 50 or 25% of the intensity.

JG52Krupi 04-21-2011 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Erkki (Post 269649)
As it is, it gives a huge unrealistic advantage to 6dof users. I dont have a TrackIR and I'm not going to get one. The great majority of the people buying the game will be similar to me in that regard.

I cannot see why simple offset camera position(without leaning forward, zooming, restricting views) is not possible.

Either offset camera position OR full reticle visible, pseudo-simulating 2-eye stereo vision, with 50% of the reticle glowing maybe 50 or 25% of the intensity.

Get a free track then?

Erkki 04-21-2011 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 269658)
Get a free track then?

I'm not going to get any kind of head tracking. I've survived now 10 years without.

edit: how silly is this really? TrackIR 6dof crowd forcing people to adapt to THEIR hardware, and unrealistic advantages? Is this a simulation game or not? By whose standards, and to what extent?

b101uk 04-21-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 269121)
LOL I kind of agree, in real life you would close one eye when using the offset gunsight but if you have track ir or freetrack its easy to lean slightly to the left.

I have nearly always shot guns with sights with both eyes open regardless of if they are iron sights or telescopic sights as my brain will happily merge the two images, about the only time I will close one eye is if I want to be deathly accurate to hit the proverbial pea on a post at 600 yards (never managed to hit the pea but have hit the post many times in the past knocking the pea off :rolleyes:)

Redroach 04-21-2011 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lixma (Post 269344)
Or in the middle....BF-110.

Here's a (very) rough mock up of what the 109 pilot would see (assuming he wasn't a Cyclops). Never mind this leaning over to the right nonsense. If CoD wants to be as realistic as possible then this is what we should have.

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/4070/revi.jpg

I call BS.

FFS, go play something easier, will ya? I really can't stand people that want to ruin even the last of this sim (emphasis on "ulation") because it's too f*cking hard for them.
People with learning disabilities belong to a wholly different class of games.

BigPickle 04-21-2011 12:26 PM

maybe thats why you mostly knock the pea off, close one eye

:-P
maybe then you'll hit it :-P

@Redroach - why dont you go to another forum if you wanna speak to its members like this! he is allowed his opinion so acting like a petty child calling him a retard is just plain rude.

unknwn 04-21-2011 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Erkki (Post 269661)
I'm not going to get any kind of head tracking. I've survived now 10 years without.

edit: how silly is this really? TrackIR 6dof crowd forcing people to adapt to THEIR hardware, and unrealistic advantages? Is this a simulation game or not? By whose standards, and to what extent?

That's your choice not to get tracking hardware. You can also try flying only with a keyboard. But don't blame others for having some king of advantage. Trackir simulates head movements in game, like joystick simulates real controls in a plane.

P.S. Even with the gunsight in the middle you will have problems while manoeuvring and trying to aim without any tracking software/hardware.


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