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OberstDanjeje 12-23-2010 02:32 PM

I must admit I'd like to have even more Spit, Bf109 and Fw190, so keep working on this line, many person will be very happy ;)
And hope for some other Bf110 version too.
And thanks again for this patch very fully of big improvement!!!

KWM_Schnaps 12-23-2010 03:06 PM

I highly respect the job done by DT.
All the more that you do it for free, and seemingly without a hope of getting a single buck out of it.
Thanks a lot for taking up the gauntlet, for your efforts and for bringing new evolutions to our beloved sim.
This said, I agree with Wutz (probably because I too am an old grinch...)
What good will it bring to have a dozen new Spitfire models if AI still sees through clouds?
Or if AI planes are still able to fly @ 110% power without overheating?
Or if some russian guns still keep their 0° dispersion?
Frankly, except receiving hurrahs from the Spit's fans, let me doubt.
I agree that it's very efficient. Useful is another matter.
You probably took quite some time building up a full functional cockpit for the CW21.
Could you remind me how many did fly in operations? And how many victories were scored with it?
In the meantime, we're still stuck with 0 flyable french plane, just to take another example...
Even though some 3D models are already included in the "old" stock game.
As far as I can remember, the MS406 did fly in significant numbers, and shot down quite a few German planes in French hands, and Russian ones when flown by the Finns.
So it would have been no bigger deal, and there's at least as much documentation available for the MS406 as for the CW21.
I know and accept the fact that you cannot please everybody in the community.
And that you will develop what pleases one or the other member of the team.
Just my 2 cts.
PS: Merry Christmas to you all!

ECV56_Guevara 12-23-2010 03:28 PM

Great DT!
there are some features I am waiting anxious others not at all but I take this patch as mi chritsmas present. Thanks!!!
DT Two question : are you taking vacations after the release or are you start working in the next pacth?
There are more features than those that appears in the PDF?
Thanks again DT! Merry Xmas !!

indy 12-23-2010 03:29 PM

Hey, Guys. Thank you for all your hard work. BTW does IL-4 have any chance to be presented in future patches? As I know it looks like that IL-4 is almost ready. But I'm not sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFUoDp9di5Y

csThor 12-23-2010 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWM_Schnaps (Post 206181)
What good will it bring to have a dozen new Spitfire models if AI still sees through clouds?
Or if AI planes are still able to fly @ 110% power without overheating?
Or if some russian guns still keep their 0° dispersion?
Frankly, except receiving hurrahs from the Spit's fans, let me doubt.
I agree that it's very efficient. Useful is another matter.

There are those who can code, those who can research and those who model 3D stuff. Nobody can do everything so it's not realistic to say "you have x people, why didn't you y ?". AI stuff is not easily done, if it was we'd not have real pilots in the military and commercial airlines but AI pilots. And that stuff isn't forgotten, it's merely delayed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWM_Schnaps (Post 206181)
You probably took quite some time building up a full functional cockpit for the CW21.

Actually that plane was another leftover from the PF development. It was reasonably advanced, Daidalos was given the model and data and so it was finished. Another example of efficiency. ;)

Merry Christmas. :)

steeldelete 12-23-2010 03:44 PM

Thanks TD, can't wait. It seems you will be around for a long time.

I guess you became my favorite pastime. (reading through this thread)

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 12-23-2010 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ECV56_Guevara (Post 206187)
Great DT!
there are some features I am waiting anxious others not at all but I take this patch as mi chritsmas present. Thanks!!!
DT Two question : are you taking vacations after the release or are you start working in the next pacth?
There are more features than those that appears in the PDF?
Thanks again DT! Merry Xmas !!

Thanks for your kind words!
Q.1: Of cause we are going in vacation, as we are going into bed each evening. We are simple people. This is not our 'daily work to earn money' - it is kind of hobby. Maybe we find time for a hobby during a vacation... :-P
Q.2: Yes! We already found one new thing, that we missed to name in the readme/guide. I'm curious if you find it. But generally we didn't left out something on purpose, just to surprise you. Sorry. :rolleyes:

TinyTim 12-23-2010 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWM_Schnaps (Post 206181)
I highly respect the job done by DT.
Or if some russian guns still keep their 0° dispersion?

Which guns would that be?

waffen-79 12-23-2010 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy (Post 205886)
what kind of ammoload of already existend 109s were wrong ?

or is ment the change from default MK108 to MG151/20 in G-14 and G-10 with this ?

Hi guys

Does patch 4.10 invalidates earlier version tracks?

Would that ammo change would affect my G-10 and G-14 tracks?

What about the new G factor? would that break those tracks?

I asking this because I have archived tracks with my online victories since 2007

F19_Klunk 12-23-2010 05:47 PM

That was one of the best read I have had the passed couple of months... this is a huge patch, and I am as excited by the list of "fixes" as I am with the new stuff... great!

oh and FINALLY my morse code education in military service comes to use in civilian life :D

merry xmas to the team and thanx for a job "soon" well done!


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