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13th Hsqn Protos 01-23-2010 05:33 AM

not really ..... if the ship is not buffetting why would the pilots head (your body/neck acts as a damper ;) ) ..... I have run into all sorts of low altitude turbulence ..... and it never does to a plane/glider what it does in IL2 or that vid ...... as RAF Winger confirmed there is nothing close to that kind of amplitude or violence.

The comment about dropping a wing or a short 'bump' are much more accurate.

airmalik 01-23-2010 05:37 AM

thanks for the great update Oleg and team. Loved the movie.

I'm not a Spitfire expert but according to this site (Anatomy of the Spitfire cockpit - great site BTW):

The panel and most of the other instrumentation were painted in black, providing contrast from the Interior Green of the structural elements.

http://www.spitfiresite.com/referenc...02es09_016.jpg

Regarding the amount of turbulence, it does seem excessive but then I've only been in such turbulence in a much slower plane. As someone else mentioned it seems the frequency of the bumps is too high. It almost seems like the engine is about to come apart. I also wouldn't expect the RPM needle to jump around like that in turbulence but I WOULD expect that from the canopy handle/wire ;-)

Love to see a complete overcast video next!

cheers

diveplane 01-23-2010 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuxaHuk (Post 138561)

no audio hmmm?

wops visuals are every bit as good imo.

plz have a option for cockpit shake on or off. for many like me its horrid , and can affect track ir movements.

13th Hsqn Protos 01-23-2010 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airmalik (Post 138713)
The panel and most of the other instrumentation were painted in black, providing contrast from the Interior Green of the structural elements.

http://www.spitfiresite.com/referenc...02es09_016.jpg

Regarding the amount of turbulence, it does seem excessive but then I've only been in such turbulence in a much slower plane. As someone else mentioned it seems the frequency of the bumps is too high. It almost seems like the engine is about to come apart. I also wouldn't expect the RPM needle to jump around like that in turbulence but I WOULD expect that from the canopy handle/wire ;-)


What ????? ............ Protos said cockpit was washed out ...... hmmm = wtf does Pro know ........
Oleg and Luthier that is a 'realistic' pit ... how about making it look like that (at least colors) and forget about 'weathering cockpits'

tagTaken2 01-23-2010 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diveplane (Post 138714)

wops visuals are very bit as good imo.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!

Book in for an eye test.

KG26_Alpha 01-23-2010 07:52 AM

Regarding the buffeting shaking comments.

Its bouncing due to the way its being flown, looks like some fast hard manoeuvring speed indicates over 220mph in most of those turns and dives.

The first 30 secs are smooth and the last few secs are too when not flown aggressively.

Again nice bonus and looks great well done all at 1c Team and thanks again for a long awaited video :)

Edit.

You can see the low level flight buffeting in similar cloud conditions in this vid, look at the pilots shoulders and canopy release handle, now imagine what the buffeting would be like if he pulled the same moves as in the SoW video clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRjR99lR_7c

Flanker35M 01-23-2010 07:53 AM

S!

Nice video indeed, shows some of the effects etc. That shaking is maybe a bit overdone IMO from what I have been in prop planes (military and civilian). As mentioned before the shaking is rough near the ground and near certain terrain areas. But nevertheless, great show! And I am sure things are not final in this video so still WIP ;) (waiting for the purist bandwagon to jump in ;) )

Abbeville-Boy 01-23-2010 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13th Hsqn Protos (Post 138712)
not really ..... if the ship is not buffetting why would the pilots head (your body/neck acts as a damper ;) ) ..... I have run into all sorts of low altitude turbulence ..... and it never does to a plane/glider what it does in IL2 or that vid ...... as RAF Winger confirmed there is nothing close to that kind of amplitude or violence.

The comment about dropping a wing or a short 'bump' are much more accurate.

:grin::grin::grin: raf74 winger only confirmed because he is you and you are him ;):rolleyes::rolleyes:

Chivas 01-23-2010 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13th Hsqn Protos (Post 138712)
not really ..... if the ship is not buffetting why would the pilots head (your body/neck acts as a damper ;) ) ..... I have run into all sorts of low altitude turbulence ..... and it never does to a plane/glider what it does in IL2 or that vid ...... as RAF Winger confirmed there is nothing close to that kind of amplitude or violence.

The comment about dropping a wing or a short 'bump' are much more accurate.

It only appears that the ship is not buffetting because the camera is mounted solidly to the airframe, so you won't see the cockpit framing bounce from that perspective. Take note of the pilots head bobbing around, from this point of view the cockpit framing would be moving relative to the terrain. I have no idea how much it would bounce, the last time I was in a dual seat CF104 Starfighter 40 years ago, I was just trying to keep my lunch down. ;)

Abbeville-Boy 01-23-2010 08:05 AM

best update that we have had great job!!! :)


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