well, Oleg and team got money for their work, TD not...........................................

There must be some way to bypass this rule. Maybe alter the code to accept just one specific "unofficial" add-on? Can we have Grumman Avengers if they are not called by that name, but rather something similar like "Gorman Attackers"? If I'm not mistaken, the Brits called it "Tarpon" and were modified by the Blackburn company, which may be an adequate change. (ie "Blackburn Tarpon"). What about examples produced by GM (General Motors)? They are currently used as fire-fighting aircraft in Canada, which may provide some loophole? Is a written petition asking for permission to add pits still out of the question?

I'm just throwing some ideas up here, don't take it the wrong way :-P

That's a terrible idea! :eek: The aircraft are totally different anyway! The Japanese currently don't have anything comparable to the Beaufighter for instance. I'm glad that didn't have to stay AI.

As I understand it, there is no 'rule'. It seems quite likely that if it ever came to court, Grumman would lose. That isn't the problem though. Grumman threatened to sue, and Ubi/1C:Maddox couldn't afford to take the risk, so they apparently came to an agreement with Grumman. Since this agreement presumably still stands, trying to find a way around it risks ending up back in the original situation, and it makes no business sense at all to take the risk now if it wasn't worth taking to start with.

Without knowing exactly what was agreed, speculating about ways around it is fairly pointless. Both 1C:Maddox and TD have made their positions clear though - no new Grumman products in the sim.

Hum,perharps,a naval update (what if Graf Zeppelin and Bf-109T would be added?),a night fighters update (planes with radar,P-61,british medium and heavy bombers,like Wellinton,Lancaster) and an early war update (France and Poland),and maybe a ground objets update (ships,tanks,arty,maps).

No P61 is possible, it's part of Northrop Grumman you know.

Sh...you right...
Is there any other similar fighter for USAF?

YES i like much the P61 is multirole airplane bomber-recognition-fighter anti sommerigible FANTASTICK the p61.
P61 BLACK WIDOW is good NIGHT FIGHTER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtom7c1rkn8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny-fr...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhxfu...eature=related

You guys should get paid for this sh**!! It takes a lot of dedication to come up with all of this.

Fearfactor

Speculating and ranting about money for addons and stuff is just so much more of what we have all read 1,000s of times in previoius postings.

Remember, Ubisoft is still in the loop for IL2 distribution and there might not be a workaround for add-ons without Ubisoft participation.

Afterall, paid for add-ons were retail shelf items for IL2 as it progressed over the years.

Patches were free download items

P-70 :

"In October 1940, the USAAC felt a need for long-range fighters more than attack bombers, so some of the production run of A-20s were converted to P-70 and P-70A night-fighters. They were equipped with SCR-540 radar (a copy of British AI Mk IV), the glazed nose often painted black to reduce glare and hide the details of the radar set, and had four 20 mm (.79 in) forward-firing cannon in a ventral bomb bay tray. Further P-70 variants were produced from A-20C, G and J variants. The singular airframe P-70B-1 (converted from an A-20G) and subsequent P-70B-2s (converted from A-20Gs and Js) had American centimetric radar (SCR-720 or SCR-729) fitted. The P-70s and P-70As saw combat ONLY in the Pacific during World War II and only with the USAAF. The P-70B-1 and P-70B-2 aircraft never saw combat but served as night fighter aircrew trainers in the US in Florida and later in California. All P-70s were retired from service by 1945."