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Jaws2002 02-22-2012 04:53 PM

Don't rush it.....I won't be home for another two days.:mrgreen:


Now I'll run like hell before the mob catches me.:mrgreen:

bisher 02-22-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaws2002 (Post 393083)
Don't rush it.....I won't be home for another two days.:mrgreen:


Now I'll run like hell before the mob catches me.:mrgreen:

Get 'im boys!

ATAG_Doc 02-22-2012 06:38 PM

Jawzzy you are AOWL? Your bomber awaits you.

Jaws2002 02-22-2012 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc (Post 393114)
Jawzzy you are AOWL? Your bomber awaits you.

Thye made me work to pay for all those bombers I crashed, so it will be a while until they trust me with another Ju88. :-|:-P

Skoshi Tiger 02-23-2012 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 393023)
You might be a native English speaker but your also Australian and are still clearly butthurt over the ashes :P either that or you don't get the joke because it wasn't in fact meant to be one ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tvrdi (Post 393024)
We werent joking mate. Relax. Just, hes english was hard to understand and what he typed looked like patch is ready.
Blacksix, thanks mate.

Ah! So you guy's actually intended to bait our only consistant means of getting updates from the development team? Sorry for giving you the benefit of the doubt!

Choice actions guy's! Thanks for raising the tone of the forum!

Regarding the Ashes! I will let history speak for it's self!

Ashes match results from wikipedia

From 1882 to the 5th Test of the 2010-11 series
Matches won by Australia 123
Matches won by England 100
Matches drawn 87

Wasn't it something like 24 years since England won the series on Australian soil? :P

banned 02-23-2012 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 393178)
Ah! So what you guy's actually intended to bait our only consistant means of getting updates from the development team? Sorry for giving you the benifit of the doubt!

Choice actions guy's! Thanks for raising the tone of the forum!

Regarding the Ashes! I will let history speak for it's self!

Ashes match results from wikipedia

From 1882 to the 5th Test of the 2010-11 series
Matches won by Australia 123
Matches won by England 100
Matches drawn 87

Wasn't it something like 24 years since England won the series on Australian soil? :P

Not a bad result mate when you consider how many people the poms have on their little island compared to our patch of land. Oops, sorry, didn't mean to say patch.

Feathered_IV 02-23-2012 12:26 AM

Nobody tried to bait B6. As said earlier, the sukhoi' message got babelfished in such a way that it read like the patch was imminent. We asked if that was the case. Nobody made a joke.

ATAG_Dutch 02-23-2012 12:44 AM

Well I laughed, whether it was or not. ;)

Skoshi Tiger 02-23-2012 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 393181)
Nobody tried to bait B6. As said earlier, the sukhoi' message got babelfished in such a way that it read like the patch was imminent. We asked if that was the case. Nobody made a joke.

Ok! No Problems!

FS~Phat 02-23-2012 03:19 AM

I can't wait for a patch either but I wouldn't hold your breath for Friday, these things always have a way of taking longer than you want them too! It's great news that they are getting closer though!! So don't kill the messenger on Friday if the patch doesn't show up! It's just great to hear what challenges they are dealing with so we get a sense for what we can look forward to and why there are delays.

Keep up the good work devs! :cool:

Tvrdi 02-23-2012 08:49 AM

Just realized, tomorrow is...friiidaaay, friiidaaay


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPI6g_XG7ck

BH_woodstock 02-23-2012 12:38 PM

any clue on "when" we will see this patch?

banned 02-23-2012 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BH_woodstock (Post 393279)
any clue on "when" we will see this patch?

In two weeks mate. It's Friday in Australia so we will find out first :)

Verhängnis 02-23-2012 01:09 PM

22 Hours to Go! ;)

JG52Uther 02-23-2012 01:21 PM

There should be an update tomorrow but I don't personally expect to see a patch just yet.

Insuber 02-23-2012 01:34 PM

I was wondering if we can have a Thursday preview of the Friday update of the upcoming patch ... :-D

Verhängnis 02-23-2012 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 393297)
I was wondering if we can have a Thursday preview of the Friday update of the upcoming patch ... :-D

But then we would just be dissapointed in the Friday post because we don't get what was in the preview on Thursday.

ATAG_Doc 02-23-2012 03:32 PM

Sure is a lot of wild speculation that what is said means a patch will be released tomorrow. I think an update is likely and necessary. But the patch will be released when it is released and not a second before. The time and date of its release are the developers choice and their choice alone. They may even have a deadline. But if it isn't ready. It wont be released even if they stated at an earlier date that it would be ready tomorrow.

Insuber 02-23-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc (Post 393334)
But the patch will be released when it is released and not a second before.

Neither a second later, I hope. But I'm an optimist as always ... :-)

bisher 02-23-2012 04:06 PM

So let me get this straight. The patch will be released when it's released, and not before. ;)

RazzyMan 02-23-2012 04:26 PM

LOL ! ! !

But seriously, I was told there might be a small bit released before the big bit.

OutlawBlues 02-23-2012 05:02 PM

Is this a Beta patch? Dosen't that mean in process of testing? So when does it matter when it's released? Release it, and let the testing begin.

jamesdietz 02-23-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bisher (Post 393351)
So let me get this straight. The patch will be released when it's released, and not before. ;)

Maybe...........................

Feathered_IV 02-23-2012 08:39 PM

Ah for the good old days where they'd put the pre release patch on their server without a password. Then word would get out and said server would collapse under the weight of downloads.

Buchon 02-23-2012 08:58 PM

I´ll not ride the Hype and wait for a beta? patch.

I expect a report of the progress and guess that if there a video of the new features it would be great :)

machoo 02-23-2012 09:12 PM

I see the poll thread about when the patch might come out has been deleted. I guess that means it'll be a long wait.....

Dano 02-23-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machoo (Post 393452)
I see the poll thread about when the patch might come out has been deleted. I guess that means it'll be a long wait.....

It didn't get deleted, it got merged into it's rightful place in the crystal ball thread.

ElAurens 02-23-2012 09:52 PM

The only patch that matters is the OFFICIAL RELEASE.

So I have quite a long wait. And I'm not plussed by it in the least.

ME 3 will soon be taking most of my gaming time.

sg1221 02-23-2012 10:42 PM

You guys think it's bad , heck I'm 60 so I probably won't live to see
the final product :shock:.......:)

sg

ElAurens 02-23-2012 11:48 PM

Not far behind you sg.

:cool:

Rjel 02-24-2012 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV (Post 393440)
Ah for the good old days where they'd put the pre release patch on their server without a password. Then word would get out and said server would collapse under the weight of downloads.

No joke there. Was there ever a single beta patch that didn't get leaked? I think it was part of the master plan by Oleg. Either that or the people he trusted with patches were the most untrustworthy people on the net.

BlackSix 02-24-2012 07:05 AM

Today we plan to show the third part of the video with a controlled ground vehicles. Development of a beta patch for the final stage.

banned 02-24-2012 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 393536)
Today we plan to show the third part of the video with a controlled ground vehicles. Development of a beta patch for the final stage.

I knew it.
At least I don't have to stay up. I can go to bed early.

albx 02-24-2012 07:10 AM

so no beta today right? many will be disappointed...

Flanker35M 02-24-2012 07:11 AM

S!

Why dissapointed? Luthier & Team never promised beta would come today :rolleyes: We will get an update which is good, mucho better than nothing :)

Feuerfalke 02-24-2012 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 393541)
We will get an update which is good

Based on what information?

They didn't say what's in either.

No date, no patch.

No info what's inside,.... go figure.

Flanker35M 02-24-2012 07:23 AM

S!

Well, it seems, while reading recent posts and updates from devs, that the graphics update is coming first at some point(now in final stages?) followed by the FM/DM/whatever.

albx 02-24-2012 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flanker35M (Post 393541)
S!

Why dissapointed? Luthier & Team never promised beta would come today :rolleyes: We will get an update which is good, mucho better than nothing :)

well, I'm, cause I really don't care to drive a vehicle in CoD, if I wanted do it I played Battlefield or something like that. What I wanted was a video showing the beta patch or some sort of benchmark...

banned 02-24-2012 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albx (Post 393548)
well, I'm, cause I really don't care to drive a vehicle in CoD, if I wanted do it I played Battlefield or something like that. What I wanted was a video showing the beta patch or some sort of benchmark...

That'll be in two weeks

5./JG27 Lehmann 02-24-2012 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banned (Post 393549)
That'll be in two weeks

Now now, that's how rumours start :)

Insuber 02-24-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 393536)
Today we plan to show the third part of the video with a controlled ground vehicles. Development of a beta patch for the final stage.

Thank you very much BlackSix. You're efficient and kind as always. I appreciate your work.

Cheers,
Ins

15.Span_Valalo 02-24-2012 08:12 AM

Please BS... launch the move now and patch... I have great impatience...
And SLI, and other bugs, Will be solved the problem?

thks S! all.

JG52Krupi 02-24-2012 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 393536)
Today we plan to show the third part of the video with a controlled ground vehicles. Development of a beta patch for the final stage.

Thanks B6.

To anyone who is surprised by this we were told we would be getting a three part video so it can't really come as a shock that on the third Friday were getting the third part ;)

Hoping to see the beta patch readme at least though :D

Majo 02-24-2012 08:20 AM

Thank you.
 
Thank you BS for the information.

I am not sure about the benefit of insisting so much in "the controlled ground vehicles" feature.

I really think "the controlled ground vehicles" is not what the community is waiting for and in some ways is stressing the string.

I know we all have different priorities and sensibilities about what is important for CloD, but I really feel this is not one of them.

I have the perception that the “sequel” argument had a longer path to travel and also some positive message within.
Still disappointing, in some way, because with all certainty enforces the idea that “you are not going to get what you expect
as soon as you want…” but with some kind of hope like… “Someday, somehow, if we are still here, things will get better”.

Salutes,

kristorf 02-24-2012 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majo (Post 393562)
Thank you BS for the information.

I am not sure about the benefit of insisting so much in "the controlled ground vehicles" feature.

I really think "the controlled ground vehicles" is not what the community is waiting for and in some ways is stressing the string.

I know we all have different priorities and sensibilities about what is important for CloD, but I really feel this is not one of them.

I have the perception that the “sequel” argument had a longer path to travel and also some positive message within.
Still disappointing, in some way, because with all certainty enforces the idea that “you are not going to get what you expect
as soon as you want…” but with some kind of hope like… “Someday, somehow, if we are still here, things will get better”.

Salutes,

Afraid to say I have to agree, its all a 'definate maybe'

Feathered_IV 02-24-2012 08:58 AM

Quite right. What we are looking for is progress that will make the game enjoyable for us now. Not features that we might look forward to this time next year. In view of that, may I respectfully ask how the optimisation is progressing and what progress we have seen this week?

JG52Uther 02-24-2012 10:24 AM

Fresh stuff from sukhoi.ru
Note thread title.

Red Dragon-DK 02-24-2012 10:34 AM

Thanks Uther and B6 for the infor

150GCT_Veltro 02-24-2012 11:13 AM

A nice addition about "cars and trucks" would be the possibility to drive the vehicle to your aircraft (a sort of FPS addition like in BF3). This would be really a new feature for a flightsim.

5./JG27 Lehmann 02-24-2012 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 150GCT_Veltro (Post 393611)
A nice addition about "cars and trucks" would be the possibility to drive the vehicle to your aircraft (a sort of FPS addition like in BF3). This would be really a new feature for a flightsim.

In the 2nd video you see a sportscar drive up to a spitfire then the view switches to inside the plane and it takes off. I think this could be a hint at such a feature?

GraveyardJimmy 02-24-2012 11:24 AM

That could make for some interesting missions, driving back from the village near the airfield during a raid could be interesting, followed by scrambling after the leaving bombers. Certainly good news for movie makers too.

esmiol 02-24-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaRat (Post 393613)
In the 2nd video you see a sportscar drive up to a spitfire then the view switches to inside the plane and it takes off. I think this could be a hint at such a feature?

it is just the fact you can switch from a vehicule to a plane...like you can do now from plane to plane.

it is just more immerssif to be able to use vehicules.

and this feature is maybe not the most urgent thing to implement. but it is an hugue feature and something who may in the future add more lifetime to the sim.

Imagine an SEOW systeme adapted to cliffs of dover in two or three years?

Insuber 02-24-2012 11:57 AM

Fresh from B6, update will be a little late probably (unless it's Russian humor ...)::


Q:
Alexander (BS), please ignore for a few minutes of work (a change of activities and / or short breaks increase productivity) and to answer a small question: can we expect to update or dinner in the evening Moscow time?

A:
As soon render the video and I'll lay out the link-update can for dinner, maybe late at night)

Bye

Insuber 02-24-2012 11:59 AM

Another fresh info (yesterday night):

Posted by karakurt4
Dear Alexander. Perhaps the question is too premature, but very much interested. If there is an approximate information. What time period will be displayed in BZM? (From the early days of the war until the complete liberation of the approaches to Moscow, or what that one episode). And since you have a mission to create a direct relationship. How will they look like? With the script? Or, as in the old sludge "every day"? To be honest I liked it the last. Where there is no specific description of the hero with his "life." In the mission "every day" feel involved in what is happening, despite fighting everyday routine. And when there is a script ... Well, strange as that of "life". Thank you.


B6 Answer:

At the moment we know only what we are doing a game dedicated to the Eastern Front. Will it BZM or something else - not yet solved, wait for the announcement, so to speak about the time frame prematurely.
If I'm going to do the campaign - that of its standard circuit simulation memoir - will be the main character and the script is built based on real events. Make "every day" I do not want - is a constant throwing between different pilots, shelves and types of aircraft - the player just get confused from all that mess is obtained.

Feathered_IV 02-24-2012 12:16 PM

Hmm, so maybe not even Moscow at all, but some other aspect of the Eastern front. Wait and see I guess.

150GCT_Veltro 02-24-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GraveyardJimmy (Post 393616)
That could make for some interesting missions, driving back from the village near the airfield during a raid could be interesting, followed by scrambling after the leaving bombers. Certainly good news for movie makers too.

Exactly.

mazex 02-26-2012 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 393632)
Another fresh info (yesterday night):

Posted by karakurt4
Dear Alexander. Perhaps the question is too premature, but very much interested. If there is an approximate information. What time period will be displayed in BZM? (From the early days of the war until the complete liberation of the approaches to Moscow, or what that one episode). And since you have a mission to create a direct relationship. How will they look like? With the script? Or, as in the old sludge "every day"? To be honest I liked it the last. Where there is no specific description of the hero with his "life." In the mission "every day" feel involved in what is happening, despite fighting everyday routine. And when there is a script ... Well, strange as that of "life". Thank you.


B6 Answer:

At the moment we know only what we are doing a game dedicated to the Eastern Front. Will it BZM or something else - not yet solved, wait for the announcement, so to speak about the time frame prematurely.
If I'm going to do the campaign - that of its standard circuit simulation memoir - will be the main character and the script is built based on real events. Make "every day" I do not want - is a constant throwing between different pilots, shelves and types of aircraft - the player just get confused from all that mess is obtained.

Interesting... To me there are other battles that I think will be easier to market in the west at least. If Russia wasn't so darn big Barbarossa is a catchy name to get creative freedom ;) I think most people in the west think of Leningrad, Stalingrad, Kursk and Berlin of course when talking the eastern front? To most western people Moscow is the place Hitler never got to (thanks to BoM naturally ;)).

/mazex

Insuber 03-01-2012 08:03 AM

No beta patch for tomorrow. Difficult days in the team. Tomorrow we will have screenshots of the sequel (good thing anyway):


BlackSix:
"A bad omen to report time on the forums. Inside the team put quite a tough time and across tasks. Tomorrow will update with screenshots from the sequel to attack aircraft. On the patch on Friday I would have never expected. "

BlackSix 03-01-2012 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 395503)
No beta patch for tomorrow. Difficult days in the team. Tomorrow we will have screenshots of the sequel (good thing anyway):


BlackSix:
"A bad omen to report time on the forums. Inside the team put quite a tough time and across tasks. Tomorrow will update with screenshots from the sequel to attack aircraft. On the patch on Friday I would have never expected. "

I am shocked by the speed of news dissemination))
Just going to write it here...

MoGas 03-01-2012 08:19 AM

^^^^
:(

mazex 03-01-2012 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 395504)
I am shocked by the speed of news dissemination))
Just going to write it here...

Prepare for more shocks ;)

10 mins ago:

Q: Or at least wait for this week or not? (will the patch come this friday?)

B6: We usually work from Monday through Friday (when rush job before deadline - seven days a week). So if Friday will not be - then the work has to continue until Monday. Readme assembled from separate pieces just before the release and not yet ready. I have only my block of text that I have no right to publish.

David198502 03-01-2012 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 395504)
I am shocked by the speed of news dissemination))
Just going to write it here...

that's just a sign, how eager we all are, to get our hands on the long awaited patch finally BS.
is it possible to tell us, an possible date of the beta release at least?

banned 03-01-2012 08:22 AM

Wasn't expecting it anyway, hence why I'm downloading the Ka-50 Black Shark attack helecopter. That'll give me a few months to get use to prior to the patch.

BlackSix 03-01-2012 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 395507)
that's just a sign, how eager we all are, to get our hands on the long awaited patch finally BS.
is it possible to tell us, an possible date of the beta release at least?

No, Ilya has not called on that date.

David198502 03-01-2012 08:30 AM

and what about more specific informations on the content of the patch in the friday update tomorrow??
i mean "we are working on the FMs" is good to know, but a little more insight what we can expect would be greatly appreciated...

41Sqn_Banks 03-01-2012 08:33 AM

Sad news, but unexpected things can happen in software development and no one can change or prevent. The dev team should enjoy the weekend and start fixing the problems next week. Just don't rush it. We have waited so long for it, few more days won't kill us.

I hope there aren't any fundamental problems, if they are fundamental take even more time and to bring up the best solution.

BlackSix 03-01-2012 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David198502 (Post 395510)
and what about more specific informations on the content of the patch in the friday update tomorrow??
i mean "we are working on the FMs" is good to know, but a little more insight what we can expect would be greatly appreciated...

I fear that tomorrow will be only screenshots of the sequel.
To this there are certain reasons.

Insuber 03-01-2012 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 395504)
I am shocked by the speed of news dissemination))
Just going to write it here...

The Big Brother is watching you! :)

David198502 03-01-2012 08:38 AM

ok thx anyway BS for your dedication on this forum and your customers.
i really hope that the reasons you are talking about, are nothing too serious or major, though it sounds that way

jimbop 03-01-2012 09:33 AM

Hi BlackSix - did I read correctly that the readme is written but not authorized for publication? Perhaps you could ask Luthier on our behalf for a Friday preview!

albx 03-01-2012 09:35 AM

great... so no news about the ghost-patch and more screenshots of tanks? No video of the beta patch and nothing at all.... to be honest I don't care about the sequel if the game I bought will not be fixed first...

thank you

mazex 03-01-2012 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albx (Post 395522)
great... so no news about the ghost-patch and more screenshots of tanks? No video of the beta patch and nothing at all.... to be honest I don't care about the sequel if the game I bought will not be fixed first...

thank you

I don't know how many more times I manage to read phrases like the one below ;)

"I don't care about the sequel if the game I bought will not be fixed first..."

...from hundreds of people here in hundreds of different versions.

We DO know that 2-300 of you think that way (which you naturally are fully entitled to do). But please - we got the message? OK?

They WILL release the patch before the sequel. They are obviously not even sure it will be called BoM...

JG52Krupi 03-01-2012 09:50 AM

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sou...kUfW-s1lukoBcQ

What the Scottish guy said at the football match sums up what I am thinking right now :(

Buchon 03-01-2012 10:00 AM

So there surfaced new problems :(

Well, is better fix them than release a useless beta patch for public testing.

If I understand righ they will not stop and work the weekend to try a release ?

BlackSix 03-01-2012 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbop (Post 395521)
Hi BlackSix - did I read correctly that the readme is written but not authorized for publication? Perhaps you could ask Luthier on our behalf for a Friday preview!

No, we will write Readme at the last minute, collecting it from a single block. I have my text on my work, but I can not publish it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buchon (Post 395531)
If I understand righ they will not stop and work the weekend to try a release?

No, now the situation is different, everyone is working normally.

machoo 03-01-2012 10:18 AM

Takes this long to get a patch going , imaging how long it will be for the sequal to come out.....

Blackdog_kt 03-01-2012 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbop (Post 395521)
Hi BlackSix - did I read correctly that the readme is written but not authorized for publication? Perhaps you could ask Luthier on our behalf for a Friday preview!

That would be a very good idea, but only if they publish the parts of the readme they are 100% sure will make it into the patch.

I really want to see some specific details about what is getting fixed, but if something is included in the readme and then it doesn't make the patch, we'll have to deal with a lynch mob situation here :-P

So, like jimbop says, if it's possible ask Luthier to give us part of the readme for the fixes that you are 100% sure will go into the patch.

That doesn't have to be complicated things that can break when something changes (like an entire graphics or sound engine).

A lot of people would be happy to know about specific, isolated aircraft systems, which are (i suppose) not so dependent on other parts of the code and thus, easier to be sure if they are done or not.

For example "the bombsights have been corrected", or "the ju88 gyrocompass works and the He111P's compasses no longer display reversed headings".

If you can do this BlackSix it would be very appreciated by many in the community. Thanks for the information :grin:

JG52Krupi 03-01-2012 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 395536)
That would be a very good idea, but only if they publish the parts of the readme they are 100% sure will make it into the patch.

I really want to see some specific details about what is getting fixed, but if something is included in the readme and then it doesn't make the patch, we'll have to deal with a lynch mob situation here :-P

So, like jimbop says, if it's possible ask Luthier to give us part of the readme for the fixes that you are 100% sure will go into the patch.

That doesn't have to be complicated things that can break when something changes (like an entire graphics or sound engine).

A lot of people would be happy to know about specific, isolated aircraft systems, which are (i suppose) not so dependent on other parts of the code and thus, easier to be sure if they are done or not.

For example "the bombsights have been corrected", or "the ju88 gyrocompass works and the He111P's compasses no longer display reversed headings".

If you can do this BlackSix it would be very appreciated by many in the community. Thanks for the information :grin:

Agreed, I demand appeasement ;)

pupo162 03-01-2012 10:43 AM

news on sli crossfire? please?

satchenko 03-01-2012 01:25 PM

What can we wait for tomorrow? screenshots? videos? info of the new engine?
Please Blacksix, Do not dissapoint the people who bought this product several months ago, like me.
Expectations are high. If there is no patch tomorrow at last give us good information, benchmarks, something.

Thank you B6.

I dont write in this forum never, my english is very poor, i will thank you if you can answer me this time :D

Robert 03-01-2012 01:31 PM

A video of the new Black Death track featuring the new graphics engine would be nice. I wouldn't mind seeing it in the current graphics version, either.

tintifaxl 03-01-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert (Post 395573)
A video of the new Black Death track featuring the new graphics engine would be nice. I wouldn't mind seeing it in the current graphics version, either.

Why not record the track in the old and the new engine with the fps counter enabled? :-P

satchenko 03-01-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tintifaxl (Post 395576)
Why not record the track in the old and the new engine with the fps counter enabled? :-P

Tintinfaxl hi!

I can see that you have a SSD. Is Clod working better with that disk? to much diference in performance?

Thanks!

Sorry for the OT :D

VO101_Tom 03-01-2012 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tintifaxl (Post 395576)
Why not record the track in the old and the new engine with the fps counter enabled? :-P

BlackSix said that the new video engine is not compatible with the old engine. There is no track that would work on both engine. I dont know, the FMB files...

VO101_Tom 03-01-2012 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satchenko (Post 395579)
I can see that you have a SSD. Is Clod working better with that disk? to much diference in performance?

This has been discussed. The game will not better, but it load quickly.

bw_wolverine 03-01-2012 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 395536)
That would be a very good idea, but only if they publish the parts of the readme they are 100% sure will make it into the patch.

I really want to see some specific details about what is getting fixed, but if something is included in the readme and then it doesn't make the patch, we'll have to deal with a lynch mob situation here :-P

So, like jimbop says, if it's possible ask Luthier to give us part of the readme for the fixes that you are 100% sure will go into the patch.

That doesn't have to be complicated things that can break when something changes (like an entire graphics or sound engine).

A lot of people would be happy to know about specific, isolated aircraft systems, which are (i suppose) not so dependent on other parts of the code and thus, easier to be sure if they are done or not.

For example "the bombsights have been corrected", or "the ju88 gyrocompass works and the He111P's compasses no longer display reversed headings".

If you can do this BlackSix it would be very appreciated by many in the community. Thanks for the information :grin:

While I pine like the rest of us for a look at the fixes, there's no 100% assurance that something will be in a beta patch until the patch is available to download, so I don't think it's a good idea to release any info like this until the patch is done.

Please let it be soon! I'm sure Luthier and the team are desperate to give us good news when they can since we're all such a sour bunch to start :P

tintifaxl 03-01-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by satchenko (Post 395579)
Tintinfaxl hi!

I can see that you have a SSD. Is Clod working better with that disk? to much diference in performance?

Thanks!

Sorry for the OT :D

I never ran it off an HD, so I wouldn't know. Performance wise I have no gripes with CloD. Just AI, FM, DM and radio.

BlackSix 03-01-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by satchenko (Post 395571)
What can we wait for tomorrow? screenshots? videos? info of the new engine?
Please Blacksix, Do not dissapoint the people who bought this product several months ago, like me.
Expectations are high. If there is no patch tomorrow at last give us good information, benchmarks, something.

Thank you B6.

Tomorrow will be screenshots of the IL-2 and may be the cockpit of IL-2.

Sutts 03-01-2012 02:47 PM

We only have ourselves to blame. If we weren't such a bunch of ungrateful whining muppets then Luthier may have felt more inclined to release a patch that wasn't close to perfect. I think I'd feel the same if I were in his shoes right now.

DroopSnoot 03-01-2012 03:03 PM

Rubbish sutts, a beta is beta only a moron doesnt understand that. If they whine delete their post.

Dano 03-01-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackSix (Post 395599)
Tomorrow will be screenshots of the IL-2 and may be the cockpit of IL-2.

Can't wait to fly the old girl again :)

Flanker35M 03-01-2012 03:06 PM

S!

Will be interesting to test that plane again whenever sequel is released :) Beta patch..comes when comes. Next week off work so I have time to wait :)

Luftwaffepilot 03-01-2012 03:11 PM

What about the benchmark results?

kestrel79 03-01-2012 03:41 PM

Please do show us the IL2 cockpit. Can't wait to see it in CloD level of detail!

kalimba 03-01-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sutts (Post 395600)
We only have ourselves to blame. If we weren't such a bunch of ungrateful whining muppets then Luthier may have felt more inclined to release a patch that wasn't close to perfect. I think I'd feel the same if I were in his shoes right now.

Ok...But not just ourselves...A lot of people were hoping for better at initial release...Including investors, Pulisher, and many many many simmers that are not even members here....I think that Luthier knows now that you cannot show
" bells and whittles" , stamp those with WIP as a sefety net , and thinking that it could not cause disapointement and criticism by not making it in the final project. Especially when those features are commented, explained and shown over and over again for such a long time...Also, it is hard for everyone to figure out why such a project is taking more than 6 years to come around. The more we learn about the griandiose span of this game , the more we get it, but still, not even talking about what is going on in detail is far less risky for the team's reputation than trying to ease our anguish...

Salute !

Orpheus 03-01-2012 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sutts (Post 395600)
We only have ourselves to blame. If we weren't such a bunch of ungrateful whining muppets then Luthier may have felt more inclined to release a patch that wasn't close to perfect. I think I'd feel the same if I were in his shoes right now.

Possibly the most untrue statement I've read today. If they'd done their job as advertised at release, very few would have any reason to complain. If anything, their rather childish attitude (blanket ban etc) towards people with legitimate complaints is doing just as much damage to the brand as the (poor) state of the sim after nearly a year.

6S.Tamat 03-01-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Orpheus (Post 395627)
Possibly the most untrue statement I've read today. If they'd done their job as advertised at release, very few would have any reason to complain. If anything, their rather childish attitude (blanket ban etc) towards people with legitimate complaints is doing just as much damage to the brand as the (poor) state of the sim after nearly a year.

+1

A good suggestion for them could be to be clear in everything, the community digested alot of hard stuff and now it is better to continue to follow the good path they started taking B6 as pr..
In that way some good info about the patch are what the community wants, alot more of the screenshots.

Tree_UK 03-01-2012 05:33 PM

Would of been nice to get the game working a year after release, but theres no rush, and we have some lovely pictures to look at to pass the time.

furbs 03-01-2012 05:52 PM

Blacksix, could you give Luthier a poke and ask him...

Has the patch fixed the CTDs?

What improvements in the FM can we expect in the patch?

Since the guy working on the AI has had 5 months and the community's help, what improvements should we see?#

Radio commands fixed?

Ground handling fixed?

Can we get a look at the read-me for the patch?

Thanks.

zapatista 03-01-2012 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by furbs (Post 395658)
Blacksix, could you give Luthier a poke and ask him...

1) Has the patch fixed the CTDs?

2 ) What improvements in the FM can we expect in the patch?

3) Since the guy working on the AI has had 5 months and the community's help, what improvements should we see?#

4) Radio commands fixed?

5) Ground handling fixed?.

the world is full of surprises, must be the first post in 5 years i can agree with furbs on, either cabin fever is overtaking me or 12 months waiting might be my personal tolerance level in exercising patience.

i'dd add to those Q's, is there now resolution to:

6) Co-op session fixed ?

7) distant LoD model visibility fixed for aircraft and ground objects ?? (the current faulty gfx engine has major problems with this)


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