nice! thanks for sharing your vid and specs. looks good to me to!

Saturday I'll get a NVIDIA 560Ti and will record again and will post a new video with same recorded track, with average FPS too, for comparsion.

If you said that, I assume you have not flown in any of the unrealistic online small maps of 1946. You are still comparing that map with a realistic one.

Small online maps are unrealistic yes, that's a fact. But it happpens on every simulator that has one map in that concept.

Big on/offline maps... nothing to compare, CoD has no rival! I cannot understand why you feel that trees are horrible, horrible is what we had in 1946... have you stopped to watch a tree in CoD from short distance?

Anyway that's your oppinion, I'm not agree but I will defend that everybody can expresss himself :)

I am aware of this too. I am a experienced online 1946 pilot, started flying online in 2004 (almost exclusively in the War Clouds Western Front Server, I'm guilty of being used to historical/quality maps).

I guess I expressed myself badly. The point I was trying to say was that, IMHO, the overall quality of the terrain (mesh, colors and how trees are placed) don't match 2011 standards.

Agree regarding short distance (it has no rival)... However, since this is a flight sim, I consider far more important the look and "feel" from a certain distance.

With those colors,trunks and the way they are placed in some parts of the terrain (like in elevations of the volcano map or in the Cliffs of Dover beaches), I always have the feel I'm looking to some tropical tree specie, not what we would expect to find in southern England.


Not a problem... After all this is a forum. Just thought to express my feelings regarding the videos posted. :cool:

I also consider CloD has no rival in some aspects (e.g. cockpits, CEM, FM, DM), but there's a lot of tweaking to be made in the map/terrain and sound aspects.

Every time I watch terrain/map videos of RoF and WoP (altough not perfect), I always feel that CloD had a big fail in this particular department.


That should be interesting.

BTW, the clip you've recorded is great/beautiful considering you system specs... But it was done over water, I wonder how much fps you can achieve over land without lowering in-game settings.

As I said, with the settings saw in video, I get 35 average FPS over water. Without shadows, can get 50FPS average.

Over land, with textures medium and forest low, without shadows and with medium/low shading, can achieve 25/30 FPS average in this rig, without much trouble. Some drops just over London with clouds, but nothing that go lower thar 15 FPS sometimes.

The video itself isn't good to show FPS performance. I recorded in internal CloD recorder, so, fixed FPS. That's why I put the average FPS I get with the settings saw in video, in the title of the post. Over land, as over sea, no stutters at all with lower/medium settings, due to low VRAM: textures medium, forest low and no shadows = no stutters and fluid gameplay. And good visual.

Here are a couple of videos over London.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwwwPjdFxVU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRmtTLtBOjU
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzfXWJ1xxUo
Understand we may not have same system specs but even then if we did I try to keep the system as quiet as I can.

What do you mean? Sorry, I didn't catch the idea in your last reply... :confused:

What's your in-game settings in those London videos?

Cheers.

Hi and sorry. All settings high or very high / max with ssoa / EP off and 1920 x 1080.

I really like Black and White-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knMaWpYcVvM

But I like desaturated colour too-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuC7ruQs9yo

And I also like saturated colour as well-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BaR6qjKF6U

It's a dilemma.:grin:

The Spitfire
 

My new video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9osNR7u_Dg

And here are one of our fan movies produced for Desastersoft. Have fun


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kRDdnTLeQw

Is this a adon for CoD?
Tiger

yes it is. Upcoming september 2011

Really really great!! :)

I enjoyed that one [RS]Boomer. Well done gov'nor.

Very atmospheric. Excellent.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

I'm always amazed by the videos some people are posting. They are really quality stuff!

Am I the only one that think the videos are quite superior than the simulation itself?

I mean, seeing these great immersion videos is one thing, running and enjoying the software is a completely different (far worst) experience. :-x

Regards.

Not everyone is having performance issues.

Lovely videos BUT i do notice the AI almost never ending rolls are still here from il2 and also whenever you hit a plane it always seems to be the same part that comes off ,ie the tail plane.Are these true ingame or is it just the videos i've seen?
Nice recordings Thanks :).

Ya the way the AI rolls the plane is really really annoying! It is so hard to get a good burst at them. The AI 109's roll faster than a 190 it seems. I am sure they will fix this in time.... At least I hope

Battle over the Channel
 

A little mission I made with 12 Spits, 4 Bf-110's, 12 G.50's and 12 Cr.42's

Enjoy:cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-WW-uwQesg

Not trying to spam or anything, have just been checking out some different looks and thought I'd share them here.

Black and White, but brighter and less contrasty than before -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNWY2phl3_M

Colour, but very washed out -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHqExJCbMME

Colour, but again, this time brighter and less contrasty than before -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1LNmGxPGfw

I really like the way the game has been designed to have a 'realistic' look to it, that can then be made to look however you want it to look later on. If it had a particular visual style hard-baked onto it from the start by the developers, we as the end users would have much less options in terms of what we could then do with it. I hope they never get convinced to change that.

Here are some more image variations using a different video clip.

With just a black and white effect -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1u1lI-OJQc

Black and white, with a slight blur added to soften the image -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiCKMj0FP6Y

Black and white, with a slight blur, more brightness and less contrast -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8ZVtZ6dNKg

Looks great! You may wish to try some old cinema filters http://compression.ru/video/old_cinema/index_en.html and adding a projector sound. I used to have a set of filters called something like guncam suit but can not Google it now. But there are some results if you search for old movie or cinema filters for virtualdub or other editors.

Thanks for the link Ataros. At the moment I'm exploring more basic 'clean', 'new print' sort of looks and checking out some simple variations on that, but will probably explore some of the 'aged' and 'damaged print' looks at some point too.

In the meantime, here are some colour versions of the previous video clip -

Original colour -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUy8pfaUzjs

Slightly blurred -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai2m5d6HKyg

Slightly blurred and desaturated -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YQGvmP5uXo

Slightly blurred and desaturated and brightened -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q30XHfgr2Tw

I don't expect people to watch all of these clips, but if they're interested they can open them up here or in different browser tabs on Youtube and compare the different looks, then perhaps choose which one they want to watch all the way through.

With the ability in this digital age to present various versions of an image, it seems a bit strange to me to impose my personal image preferences upon the end viewer of the image. There are certain filmic conventions that might determine which visual look or style is more suitable for a particular kind of subject matter, and maybe I'm just letting my indecision get the better of me, but why not let the audience decide?

So far the AI motions have been very jerky and look unnatural. I think good gun-cam vids and sim movies will have to wait until they smooth the movements out.

You're quite the propaganda machine.

If it's stable enough, people can fly and record stuff online together to avoid having to rely on the jerky-looking AI movements. I haven't been too worried about it though with the kinds of video's I've been making.

I guess I've made my point about the different looks that can can be achieved using such a versatile base as we have with Cliffs of Dover. :grin: Will just post one link to any future video's I make and let people find on Youtube any variations I might put up, no need to clog up this thread with them.

Look at the effect of the gunner after he gets hit.

Now thats an effect!




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfjl9...embedded#at=59

Could you use it with dynamic range compression/reduction filter (sort of levels reduced in photoshop) and increased contrast?

Desaturated with compressed range could be also very interesting.

I love the look of the 50s films or late war gun camera color footage.

Which software do you use for video editing?

I lose the old track, but made another one and recorded using FRAPS instead of internal CloD recorder, with the new VGA.

Really impressive. Can't say a word about performance now (60-40 FPS over ground). People that can't run with better configuration (major gameplays bugs out, thinking only in SP missions) maybe are doing something wrong.

[youtube]ZIZ7PcNDW54[/youtube]

^ What graphics settings are you running on that 560ti vid?

I've been using Adobe Premiere Pro.

I like the way those old colour films look too.

I think with enough determination and attention to detail you could probably apply any sort of film-look to Cliffs Of Dover. There probably are limits though to how good the end result would be. For example, the game lacks a certain level of detail in a lot of places, which when filtered could make it appear more cartoonish than it would if the filter were applied to a picture of a more highly detailed real-life scene.

I had a look at some colour gun-cam footage on Youtube too just before and the image quality was all over the place, even changing within a single shot. I think in some cases no video game would hold up if presented through filters accurately replicating what those films look like.

I also downloaded and had a quick look at that 'msu_old cinema' plug-in for VirtualDub that you linked to. It's been ages since I've used VirtualDub, but I managed to export a couple of shots out of it using some of the 'msu_old cinema' effects. I didn't explore it very thoroughly, but it looks like it might come in handy some time. Generally speaking though I'm not into the scratchy/damaged film look at the moment and I've never found those effects to be very convincing or realistic.

While I was playing around with it all though, I put the shots I exported out of VirtuaDub through Premier Pro and tweaked all but one of the colour shots even further, leaving the black and white shot as it was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTvmvY_qxzM

Is nothing serious, but I like the way the black and white shot turned out. Even thought I was getting dangerously close to a 'Wings Of Prey' look there with that first colour shot too. How well would a video done in that style go down here? :grin:

Not trying to change the subject but has anyone see this flick? Looks like a very interesting movie.

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer...oreign-trailer

1680X1050, SSAO off, 8x AA, Vsync on.

Forest low, Buildings Very Low (the two options) and effects medium. Everything else in highest settings.

But the lower buildings settings I left low just because of London... :grin: And to be honest I can't see big visual changes with buildings setting low-high when flying...

TIME............:shock:, thank you very much for that.

Thank you very much! I hope someone can make complete film using some of these filters in future.

BTW did anyone try making a timelaps video in CloD like this one done for ArmA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV5fx...eature=related

OT:

Can be seen here with English subs http://www.youtube.com/user/Subtitle...D4B06C787A0EF4

#1 is a better movie imho, #2 is more modern and has more CG & special effects, #3 Citadel is out and can be found somewhere on the net probably.

Would it be possible for someone to give me some advice regards making Vids.

I have the free version of FRAPS (30 second limit) and currently use my recorded tracks as the source, copy the bits I need with FRAPS and then import/edit them in Windows Movie maker.

What are the best settings for FRAPS, full size, half size, 30fps?

Windows Movie maker seems OK and is supposed to support HD files (and create them) but am I right that to do this you have to record in HD quality first?

Any tips would be useful, thanks.

Yeah, to output a decent-looking HD video out of Windows Movie Maker, you first have to give it a decent-looking HD video to work with. We're lucky when recording game-video's that the game's are generally played on our monitors at HD resolutions already (unlike, until recently, video-camera and broadcast-televison resolutions for example).

About FRAPS. Using it's full-size option will capture your video at whatever resolution your game's running at. If you're running the game at 1280x720 or higher, then you'll be capturing what can be called a HD video. Using Fraps' half-size option will make FRAPS capture your video at literally half whatever resolution you're running the game at, so you'll be capturing a less-than-HD video (unless you're running the game at 2460x1440 or higher of course).

So, you'd probably want to be recording using the full-size option. What you can do though, is turn the resolution of your game down to 1280x720 (if that's the resolution your final video will be played at), before capturing it with FRAPS. That can help you maintain higher frame-rates when recording, with probably no hit to your final image-quality. If your final video has a resolution of 1920x1080 though, which is the highest resolution you can upload to Youtube for example, then you'd want to have your game running at that same resolution in order to avoid having to blow up a lower resolution FRAPS capture to fit the 1920x1080 size when finalizing your video.

I don't have Windows Movie Maker installed, but I've read that the latest version has less tweaking options than the older versions made for WindowsXP and Vista. What that means is, you probably won't be able to tweak the video export settings that could help you maintain something more like your original FRAPS capture's image quality. Don't let that bother you though, just work with what you've got.

Which Fraps fps setting to choose depends on the kind of video you're making, but generally you'd set it to 25-30 fps. Going higher will increase the size of your resultant video file (and might give you more of performance hit when recording), while going lower will decrease it, which can be useful sometimes. There are some other aspects to the fps setting question, but you should be alright leaving it on 30.

Hope that helps a bit.

Really usefull, many thanks Les!

Fortunately, I kept WIN XP on a partition and downloaded the 'add-ons' for Windows Movie Maker. It's a pretty good piece of software for creating vids and of course, it's free!

In that case, if you're using an older version of WMM, when it comes time to export your video, see if you can find a way to adjust the bit-rate/data-rate and key-frame distance, rather than just using one of the built-in pre-sets. If you can get the key-frame distance to 300 and the bit-rate up to 20Mbps, your image won't be as degraded when it's compressed down to it's final form and will look about as good as it can when uploaded for viewing on the net. It will mean though you end up with a larger file size than you'd get using a lower data-rate and more compression, something in the order of 100MB per minute (so, about 1GB per 10 mins), but it's probably worth it to have the image still looking alright when played full-screen. It's up to you though to decide how you want to balance final file size with final image quality.

I should point out too that those figures are based on exporting your video as a H.264 MP4 file. Again, I don't know what you've got installed and what your options are, but you really want to be exporting your final video as a H.264/MPEG-4 AVC video. H.264 is currently the best of the readily available and widely used video compression options. It will give you a better looking picture for a smaller file size than any of the other free options around. So what you're looking for in WMM is an option to export your final video as an MPEG-4 (.mp4) file, using H.264 compression. To be honest, I've been using H.264 compression for so long I can't remember if I had to actually download it and install it at some point or if it was included with Windows 7 or some other software I've installed, but it's definitely worth looking into and making use of it, even if you have to export your video out of WMM as an uncompressed (and ridiculously large) file and then convert it to an MP4 file using VirtualDub or some other (free) stand-alone video conversion program.

Hope that all makes sense. Good luck with it in any case.

OT: RoF Demo
 

Tryed the RoF Demo. Not a bad WWI sim.
CLoD is better IMHO.
But still not a bad sim for a Demo.

flyer01

video I made. With some :):):):) at the being of the video.

http://vimeo.com/24891820

I don't have it yet but it is awesome. I'm getting that next. I got this because I have family connections to this event whereas I don't know of any in the first. I'd enjoy having the ability to do both. I just wanted this one first.

Good. Same card I have. The game still isn't out till July 19th though here in Canada.

Thanks for the video. Nice dogfight there. :cool:

I'm having a hard time understanding your comment (of course we all have the right to express our thoughts). Can you define better please? :)

If, by saying better, you are trying to say that you are more into WW II flight simulators than in WW I scenarios, you made a point, also think CloD is far better.

I the majority of the remaining aspects I think RoF is the finest simulation around at the moment (not counting with the modern ones, e.g. DCS stuff).

And yes, I even think it's superior to the old IL-2 with steroids (mods).

Regards.

[youtube]vtgul0A8l8w[/youtube]

Best sim ever. You don't think so? Drop dead.

I am very impressed with all the talent there is on here. You guys really have patients and are very creative.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6NQRFyuMQc

A short but nice beauty! Those guns sound so real! Congrats.

Engadin

JU-87 MP Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SEgQffp9qk

Quality Sims
 

As a flight Sim community we are very lucky to have two up to date flight Sim's of WWI and WWII with Quality! :)

Enjoy the M/V in HD. I know I enjoy all the M/V that are posted.:grin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Li1mPkn3k



MOBO- Gigabyte GA-EP45_UD3P.
CPU-Intel core Duo E8600 @ 3.33GHz.
Ram 4GB.
PSU-(Duel power supply.
500 and 550 watt on the GPU.
550 watt on MOBO.
500 watt on HD and CD/DVD player)
GPU-Video card GTX 470 1280 MB GDDR5.
Internal HD-Seagate Barracuda SATA 1TB/TO 32MB 7200RPM.
External HD-Seagate USB2.00 500 GB 7200RPM.
OS-(Duel partition on Internal HD.
Windows XP Pro 32bit.
Windows 7 PRO 64 bit.)
CFS3 and Expansions on XP 32 bit
CLoD, FSX and RoF in W-7 Pro 64 bit.
MSWFF Pro 2.
2 saitek x52 throttles.
Saitek Pro Flight PZ35 Rudder Pedals
Monitor- HP-19, HP-24 or a VIZIO 42in screen.
Turtle Beach Gaming Headset and Mic.
TIR5.
Fraps.

How to Attack with the Stuka(using the airbrake or not), sorry It's in Spanish :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B6k36JDX0U

Thanks Qpassa and AARP for posting these wonderful videos!

How does everyone in here feel about sharing all their clips they make in one pool so everyone can get something from each to produce movie shorts? Just an idea.

I am starting to permit use of my material so you can include in your shorts and string together scenes without having to make everything from scratch.

Just an idea.

it was just for a testrun, but its also a nice video.

enjoy it with musik:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Falkenho.../1/mvXrQ0Vtso8

or without musik:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Falkenho.../0/3ESGAYyaheE

Very nice! I have not flown that one but will try that next. Thanks for posting this enjoyed it.

Huhu!
Last but not least, i give it a try with my first....vid!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HfgAjenrTI

Stay tuned!
daBull!:rolleyes:

If you don't mind------- I just need to say this---------



Make more videos LOL Very good.

very nice video thanks for sharing with us!

Excellent! Nice touch with the pilot giving the thumbs-up as his aircraft sinks beneath him:)

Yeah I thought it was hillarious, almost like he was an adrenaline junkie shouting 'F**k yeah! wooohoo I f**king love this s**t!!'

always nice to watch, some online shootdowns...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGEUWhQ0y1o

Great vid. Thanks :grin:

Yes, thank you Absolut. I enjoyed that.

Hi mates,
to make a long waiting short, another Vid ....enjoy!

Part I:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUElBMMlx5s

Part II:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5O3PeT3Gng


Btw, how many Vids do we have to make for the next Patch?
Couple of Blockbusters,eh?

I go and play Age of conan now, cause...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1nsOKBgmOs

See you all on tuesday ;)

Cheers,
daBull!

@ Rice, thanks mate i was wondering what the muppets are doing here and watched the whole thing.
And hell, i watched that lady bug flyn, i cannot beliefe... weird

im shure 5 beers, 48hours of deathmetal and two wh***s cant repair that harm...;)

@absolut Whooo, you really watched the whole vid! Respect! I was outta there after the spider...and i still don`t like spiders!
Anyway, your "therapy" should bring you back on the waggon.(or was it off the waggon?)

Cheers,
Rince!

Re-rendered it I didn't like that version. Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA02A2SB7-M

And just the collision without music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-6i2Wex4uA

I Like the char falling! First I thought he had bricks on his back instead of a prachute! He`s falling down like a stone...and double the speed of his plane!^^
Would be nice to play the wilhelm-scream on this part! AAaarghh! ;)

Greetz,
Rince!

I will add that! Good idea.

It was very fun of watching your videos, thank you. :)

Thx!:)

Here ya go. Incorporated your wonderful idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M65v176XwAM

my last video, related with the last patch just to show that some characteristics as orders to the AI it are resolved, I hope you like it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6y8MfX_wkQ

Excellent video. That is an improvement! The 109 is much better to. Here's a final leg of a flight to a forward operational base. Unfortunately the landing was rough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOaNi846LqA

so i noticed one thing, u can't see the smear on the windshield from the outside view. it's a little disappointing.

Nice Sounds, Timej! I don`t mean the music! ;)
Is it an mod from the forum?

Greetz,
Rince!

btw, you have a pn!

it sounds like jafaem's sound mod.

Yes it's Jafa's. I think the originals are not very good. In the mods section are some very talented people. It must be a nightmare developing this with all of today's professional coders, casual coders, and weekend hackers digging into your code by the thousands and discussing it.

I am actually into playing with Sony Vegas movie studio and I have been consuming volumes of 411 on rendering video. I really enjoy just making them as much as actually flying this sim. I don't think I am alone either.

Right now I am trying to render that same video to be even better quality. We'll soon see.

In terms of their render quality, your latest video's look pretty good to me, maybe as good as you can get on Youtube, without access to professional-level processing, and considering the source material. Let us know if you find out anything new though. There are probably other 'tricks', but all I know is, render an .mp4 video using H.264 compression, using the highest data-rate you can, with a key-frame distance about ten times your frame-rate, then let Youtube have it's way with it and see what you end up with.

This was my latest bit of experimentation - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkW6F92eFOc

Time permitting, and if I can get over my fascination with just altering the basic image, I might make some more watchable video's to share here now that I've deleted a back-log of unfinished stuff and the latest patch has fixed some video-killing graphical bugs.

Hi Les

This is the process I am trying to use. I have to figure out how to get Vegas movie studio to work. It does you have to do some configuring first.

http://www.bubblevision.com/underwat...Tube-Vimeo.htm

Some Bristol Blenheim.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyn_qNRaQH0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6u6dYUfmoA

AMAZING!
devs take note, especially the water and sunlight.

I wish the game actually looked like this :rolleyes:

+100,000!!
i was saying the same thing to myself when i watched those blenheim videos.
there are still so much in the game that look and sound ugly.

Man Cliffs of Dover is looking great!

Superb vids Ali,hope Jafa's watching these and taking note,we need a Blenheim engine sound to add to his great sound Mod,would be nice Jafa;)

You're kidding?!

Computer game NOT as good as reality shock!

LOL give it 5 to 10 years and we will have superior shader functionality & quality.

notice the shine on the plane. no idea wether modern day paints or sealants or whatever give rise to them looking that way. Anyhooo its great people are keeping ww2 historically alive as much as possible.

Hi all,

Those Blenheim vids reminded me of a video I posted on youtube a couple of months ago, thought you guys might enjoy it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiTjg...eature=related

Cheers

Strangely, as I watched, felt that the game stuttering and dissonant music actually worked quite well together. It really is a nice video.

great video. i would very much like the developers to fix the propeller. it looks so ugly. the start up and when the engine's loosing power, the transition from propeller barely spinning to higher rpm is done so badly. (i'm not asking for that camera shutter effect where u can clearly see the propeller spinning.)

Here's a very short one using the latest patch.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeqVk...=youtube_gdata

Maybe 40 Spitfires can do the magic...

[youtube]BKZjvIOxSMY[/youtube]

:cool:

very nice! thank you.

Here is a fly over by some spits. It was a beautiful day to fly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvwUYzvFNfU

Beautiful video, Isinona! I've read the story about the actions of the Bf 109. Superb! Very interesting! :)

I like that second shot.

Was this done using that rendering process you were trying before?

I had a look at the link you provided earlier and was left with the impression the process was too personalized to try using it myself.

I noticed too he was using 'Sony Vegas Pro' and was wondering if the process was actually compatible with the 'Sony Vegas Movie Maker' program you said you were using, and whether that might have been the source of the difficulties you were having with it.

Looking at the diagram of the steps he was taking, I noticed too that if you weren't re-sizing or de-interlacing your video, you might be able to render an uncompressed version of your video out of 'Sony Vegas' and skip to the step where he uses the x.264 compression to render out his final video.

I've seen and read elsewhere that, if you can get it right, using x.264 compression can be better than the H.264 variety (better image quality and/or smaller file-size). When I found that out I installed the MEGUI interface and the x.264 codec, but I haven't had a chance to experiment with it yet.

Incidentally, on one of the links the guy provided, I found an interesting thread where people have tested out and found that Youtube video's use a different colour-space than what people might be using on their own computers. What this means is, details you can see in the highlight areas of your video can get blown out into solid white when Youtube compresses the video for presentation on it's site. The solution is to lower the contrast on your video before uploading it, so that when Youtube adds more contrast to it, the details in the highlights don't get lost.

Anyway, thanks for the links, found out some stuff I didn't know before.

Les I have since found out that VMS 11 doesn't work with debugmode framserver. I posted a question in the Sony forums about it and the response was "Frameserver currently doesn't work with VMS 11. The author will look at it".

By the way Handbreak is deinterlacing the video.
But I did render that second clip using this method produced by the same crew that did the one in my previous link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWMX5lSvEgY
I adjust the image using magic bullet looks also by the way.

I end up creating an uncompressed MOV file which is huge but then Handbreak squishes down very tightly and looks wonderful.

Framserver will just shorten the process by allowing you skip the intermediate file and port and render to the next step on the fly saving time and hard drive space.

Been playing with the built in AVI creation process in IL-2 and dummy me I need to remember this to PAL it is 25 fps which is not NTSC. I got it to work once last night and was able to produce a very smooth and very large uncompressed AVI. From there I fed it into Handbreak and wow the results were impressive.

Here is a test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwW0OrTS6m8

LoBiSoMeM will you post your track some where? I would like to play it myself and test it is you don't mind.

Thanks

No problem at all!

Here: http://www.4shared.com/file/VJ1JuXgl/Demo1.html

For comparsion: from start to the end, I have when playing this track with default view: average: 45 FPS maximum: 61 (due to VSYNC on).