what about that post? the bf 109 , fw190 , and stuka have to be modeled

i dont give a shit what time contstraints you have

God if the Stuka doesn't have a cockpit say goodbye to dive bombing. We need those marks on the canopy.

P-51, I don't know everything. There's no need to be defensive. If you want arcade games without cockpits, they already exist. I was only hoping this one would be different.

I hope you do become a pilot. It was one of the best and most rewarding decisions I have ever made.

Finally, and I mean no offense, this is the attitude that I am talking about.

If we want excellence then we must expect excellence. It doesn't matter what the company is or who runs it. You are, of course, entitled to this opinion and I am not trying to fight you. Just know, however, that simply by keeping this type of outlook, we allow mediocrity by these companies. Take no excuses.

Good luck and I will plan to purchase this game after I have researched further.

If in fact cockpits are missing for the Luftwaffe I can't help but to agree with you. The difference is I hold both developer and publisher responsible if BoP winds up being a steaming pile. Both parties entered an agreement, both parties are responsible. I stopped buying the poor pitiful developer, evil slave driving publisher routine a long time ago.

In addition it makes you wonder what else failed to make the gold master. Flight Models, damage models and load outs verified and attached to correct aircraft? Uber AI maneuvers? The list could go on and on and on.

I enjoyed the original IL-2 Series but since then 1c sends the message they have been resting on their laurels ever since.

I don't understand why Anton is being so silent about this.

I'm a bit disappointed also. I may just pick up IL-2 1946 instead.

I saw Anton on here earlier, and when I looked at his profile he was looking at this thread. So no answer probably means there is nothing good he could say about the situation, and for him, confirming all the Axis planes lack cockpits would just make things worse. Hopefully this thread will convince him to put cockpits high on the list of patch priorities.

All i gotta say is: aaaaaarrrrrrrgggghhhh. I hope it's not true, but if it is, it's not TOO major a fault, but German cockpits would definitely be cool. Since you spoke about IL2:1946, are the lobbies still active for that? And are there expansions for the game or is '46 an expansion itself? I didn't ask on the '46 forum because that would look really dumb, but I have a few questions about that anyways. Maybe someone could watch videos and help us out a bit with the cockpit issue...:confused:

Still many lobbies for '46 and there will be for a good while to come (but it does use hyper lobby so if you do play multi prepare for some headaches first).
'46 is sold as il-2 and every main expansion that came out including '46 all on one disk, so it's all you need. There is going to be atleast 1 more patch for it (v4.09) that will add new planes/cockpits and other features.

Thanks Flanker, perhaps I'll wait till the patch comes out and then look for the series bundle on Ebay. Good to hear that the lobbies are still active, but I'm sure most of the guys on there are experienced and have learned all there is to know, while I have not played any IL2's up until BoP. BTW, what is a "hyperlobby?" *blushes*

Hyperlobby is a server system of sorts, it requires an account to use but is quite good once you have it up and running. BTW, I wouldn't wait for the 4.09 patch, because its release is still at some unknown but hopefully not to distant point in the future, and the current version of 1946 is still well worth playing.