[QUOTE=virre89;80676Oleg is a person not a god btw chill on the fanboism it's freaking scary sometimes..almost like the John Carmack fans at ID Software ffs.[/QUOTE]


What's scary are people who are offended that other people express their appreciation for a decent product. The product is not perfect but its the best we have in WW2 air combat. When a person says "you are a God Oleg" doesn't mean he thinks he's is a god. lol

I remember reading something like five euros or dollars can't remember exactly. I don't think they have finalized any price but if it's in the 10 dollar range its cheap. I doubt very much that it will be anywhere near $30+ dollars that could alienate many in the community. Although like you say a few companies are able to sell $30+ dollar aircraft to the CFS community. I've never bought one so I'm not sure of the quality, but if they are of high quality with many working avionic systems, thirty dollars is still very cheap. Again I doubt this will be the case with ROF aircraft.

Very nice to have some confirmation from Mr. Maddox about the upcoming SoW features.

The way i see it, SoW will be the "Linux of simulators"...a modular engine that anyone can modify and tailor to simulate different things, from aircraft to race cars.

It's not only very clever of them to take the extra time and develop something that can be used in more popular game genres that sell more games, it's also very good for us because of all the added functionality and content we will see emerging after some time. If there's so many people modding IL2 in an unofficial and difficult way, i suspect there will be even more in SoW if they have tools that will make the job easier and cheat-proof. ;)

+1 :grin:

true in life, so many negitive peoples. good for us that we have oleg, a very positive person to lead the way :grin:

I wonder if we will have a "squad of soldiers" in objects list to march with tanks that would look so cool from up in the air

Nodes, my dear chap nodes... You spawn at combat nodes where the action is while the rest is handled by the AI...

But again speaking from an SEOW background the ability to plan ground movements and combats is already in IL2.
Adding infantry and other cool stuff will advance the game for sure...
Straffing an airfield with troops scattering in every direction???? If you only fligh up high in a boom and zoom plane you will miss half the fun. But for us who like to get down and dirty in the mud, well the more objects the better.

As for the complete warfare package, air land and sea. Arma 2 has shown it is possible. While SOW is unlikely to have it the fact that Oleg has thought that far ahead is the reason why Il2 has stood the test of time.
My guess is if it is not Oleg himself that does it it will be a third party doing it with the SOW engine.

The fact that he has not totally ruled out online authentication is in my opinion a great step forward as well.

I didn't say they failed as a game, but they utterly failed as battlefield-simulations, though they're even named after that high goal! Even ArmA2 is merely an extended Ego-Shooter, that implemented aircraft and vehicles because they somewhat belong to warfare, but they are still far from being ment seriously. And while all the games noted succeeded as games, they utterly failed in simulating even the most basic physics, as this ArmA2-Video shows pretty nicely:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP-n4F_n4UU

And this is not a mere bug, it's ArmAs physics. Hell, the game doesn't even fit the aircraft with flares and chaff, but tons of Anti-Air tanks and launchers! And don't tell me, that they couldn't modell this level of detail!


And to the speed-differences: I think you have a basic misconception of modern warfare and game-design as well. While there is a frontline in war, it does not mean that there are thousands of units fighting in a single long line along that hundreds of kilometer long front. Most of the action is taking place at a limited area at a time, with spearheads and massed units attacking and defending for a strategic point. Infact, it's that exact slow motion you mentioned for games, that dictates this.

So back into the game, while the aircraft may spawn at an airbase some 10km behind the fenceline, your tank-platoon might just spawn at the depot 1km behind the action.
That not only makes it more suitable for playing, but also more realstic compared to planes in the games you named, that rearm by flying at 100ft and Mach1 over an airfield to rearm and repair and reappear fully armed 20 seconds after the last bombrun.

1914-1918 no avionics... and I dunno... for me even $10 for just one aircraft is steep.... I'll be watching this closely and waiting for SoW.

Take a look at what i wrote again plox.
Like i said Arma 2 is way over the arcade limit and more towards simulation in all of its areas especially when it comes to handling the infantry combat, however it's still far from an in depth simulator in specific areas but the game is defiantly not an Arcade shooter and it proves itself worthy very well.

The physics, FM and Aero dynamics you'll see in SoW for airplanes etc just won't be possible in an overall sim today. If Arma 2 would've had physics for infantry and a very advanced fm , aerodynamic systems etc for everything even tanks and boats and a rendered map as large as RoF for example and with the graphics of Arma 2 the system requirements and optimization issues would be insane, not to mention the bug list.

You can't honestly believe that Oleg will have you're dream game of a Sub simulator better looking, handling than Silent Heroes at the same time handle Infantry combat better than Arma 2 and keep Tank combat on such a detailed level in graphics , bullet simulation such as Red Orchestra and STILL have all the elements that is planned for Storm of War in the air.

Do you know what it is you're asking for lol? No offense but you better get that supercomputer asap..and the development time, buglist of a game @ this scale would be of the chart unless you're at least 300+ working on it... would it be worth it in the end.. doubtful. It's better to focus on one area and make it as good as possible instead since the market for even attempting something like this is to small anyway.

Sure Olegs engine has support for creating vehicles etc on the ground does that mean it will handle better than say Red Orchestra hell no were did you get that from. I am expecting the best ever created ww2-FLIGHT sim from Oleg with SoW BoB nothing more nothing less and if he can pull of a miracle in some other area at the same time then so be it , i will be happy but i bet my arm it won't happen.

-Cheers